letz talk abt gucci mane

i think i'm developing a morbid fascination with pharell's quiet storm + big corny bridge tracks. they're terrible, but at least they're different from anything else. i'd love to hear the beat cd with the tracks that DON'T get picked.

xp

this is definitely of a piece with "goodlife", which i don't think i've ever made it all the way through.

i dunno if it wasnt for the hook i seriously wouldnt mind this at all. also, gucci's 2nd verse is pretty amazing

this is all wrong cuz im doing it on one quick listen so plz help w/ corrections:

can it all make the time stop
everybody pall
gucci stand, even heavily married man give applause
if ya sick ill prolly cut ya fingers off to get the ???
and i come home evry night and take you out to eat on saturdays
yo ex-boyfriend was not a baller he was gettin by barely
hilarious, apparently lil homie likes a parody
i put amazing carats on you, you should see the clarity
with a co-parent a daughter in the future she'll inherit it
i cannot stop starin at ya i mean at ya draws
see the kid buy you a church and and we'll donate millions to charity
acknowledge me and i can help you study more geography
psychology, my nuts ???? my biology
im stoppin ??? buy some property
its lonely at the top so wont you come and get on top of me

cue forks "psychology, my nuts ???? my biology" screen name

idk whats wrong w/ me but the ballads have really grown on me

― johnny crunch, Sunday, December 20, 2009 1:22 AM (Yesterday)

even though i generally skip spotlight, i think it would have worked as an Usher single. itd at least be better than another confessions rehash

so besides the burrprint what are 2 other essential gucci mixtapes? i need to use up my 2 remaining datpiff downloads of the day

whoa killah priest posts on here

should be dropping way more knowledge imo

dyao: imo writing on the wall and either great brrrtain or the first movie

sweet, thanks!

burr russia is dope

whoa killah priest posts on here

should be dropping way more knowledge imo

― surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Tuesday, December 22, 2009 4:37 AM (17 hours ago)

it's been all downhill since i dropped that caesar borgia line on gza's cd

cesare*

dude (b)asic (i)nstructions (b)efore (l)eaving (e)arth was some heady stuff

ya that's what i meant. heavy mental was great at times but b.i.b.l.e. is his best work. i havent heard much after that

"bingo" video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMgJLgsO8WI

lol @ waka 3:29

haha waka kinda owns that video

waka is so gifable!

btw

bad hoes in chi-cago
first class to mo-rocco

i like that this time their strategy for making it seem like gucci is not away in jail is releasing one video a week instead of one mixtape a week

haaaa

Wacka is my fav weed carrier in ages.

So of his many mixtapes, which is the best?

eh, that question

download the .zip i posted upthread

Repost the link? I can't find it.

at the behest of tape store i made a small primer of the best gucci songs (imo) of 08 & 09 for those that are still looking

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?imdmzddiyzi

the tracks are all out of order & stuff so i would order them like this on a playlist if so inclined

09 (wasted not incl since it's v readily available)

first day out
weird
she got a friend
gorgeous
30 inches remix
wonderful
wrist gliss
ice
birds
everything

08

grapey
running back
like a lambo
nickelodeon
photo shoot
hot damn
rims dancin
light show
colors
haunted house

― nog right (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, November 10, 2009 12:41 AM (1 month ago) Bookmark

also download burrprint 3

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13793-the-burrprint-the-movie-3-d-the-state-vs-radric-davis/

good review.

"He says some stuff that doesn't make any sense at all: "Eat rappers like Jeffrey Dahmer/ Don't call us Sinead O'Connor.""

cmon tom

that diplo tapes out btw. i guessss i'll listen tonight

haa i already caught that & alerted hq was hoping it'd get by

this is probably old stuff for you guyz cuz yer all so hip but just in case:

http://maddecent.com/blog/2010/01/11/gucci-mane-diplo-presents-free-gucci-best-of-the-cold-war-mixtapes/

i think one of the problems with this new diplo tape (and diplo in general) is that although it contains tracks by artists who i don't hate (and who in some cases i actually like), it makes the mistake of assuming that because ppl like both these artists on a separate level, they will gel and fit together to produce a product equal to, or greater than the sum of their parts. but this never ever happens.

but of course. lotsa people will love it.

fairly certain i wont like this

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13793-the-burrprint-the-movie-3-d-the-state-vs-radric-davis/

― samosa gibreel

good review.

― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej)

Not bad, he's decent on it being a tough sell 'til it gives up its pleasures and what those pleasures are. would nitpick about

And with Gucci, there's also a sense of shared experience. People are listening to this guy; he's not just another voice in the internet echo chamber.

This idea smacks more of the rap writers echo chamber. "internet" rappers with 100,000 downloads are also a shared experience. Also no one i've read has done a really good job explaining why this merits a paragraph. this ties into considerations of matt's "old or new music" question that got bumped recently. also XXL or film columns publishing first week numbers, like who gives a fuck and why exactly? how important is it that the music become part of the pop culture, besides being easier to sell pieces on it?

He's found his audience by elevating ignorance to expertly absurdist art

gonna come out and call this flat out wrong, or at least not as true as saying like rapreviews did that he's built his buzz post-"So Icey" by killing guys and beating the case/beefing with jeezy.

Of course, the album came out when Gucci was back in prison and sold way fewer copies than expected.

it's dishonest to connect these.

Gucci's detractors took the opportunity to declare his regional stardom a grand illusion. Those detractors should [not detract but realize he's dope

a point nothing to do with the shared experience point these particular detractors are attempting to weaken, the one already he gave a graf to.

also think he rated the album about ten per cent too highly. that, like me, he doesn't dig "the run of mid-album R&B tracks" i think shows grading on a curve and what a low bar we have for the rap album format these days.

He's found his audience by elevating ignorance to expertly absurdist art

i always thought deej was of the anti-"so the joke is this guy's retarded, right?" brigade

hes a gangster rapper of course hes promoting 'ignorance' at some level

i mean his hit single is called 'wasted' -- i think ppl just make a whole bunch of assumptions about what 'ignorance' actually means.

This idea smacks more of the rap writers echo chamber. "internet" rappers with 100,000 downloads are also a shared experience. Also no one i've read has done a really good job explaining why this merits a paragraph. this ties into considerations of matt's "old or new music" question that got bumped recently. also XXL or film columns publishing first week numbers, like who gives a fuck and why exactly? how important is it that the music become part of the pop culture, besides being easier to sell pieces on it?

i think the question of popularity is absolutely relevent to the discussion of an album, & a discussion about where a record's place is in the grand scheme of things

gonna come out and call this flat out wrong, or at least not as true as saying like rapreviews did that he's built his buzz post-"So Icey" by killing guys and beating the case/beefing with jeezy.

thats bullshit, his beef w/ jeezy & the murder case were in what, '05?? & his buzz only really started growing in mid-late 07, only really seemed noticeable a year after that.

it's dishonest to connect these.

a point nothing to do with the shared experience point these particular detractors are attempting to weaken, the one already he gave a graf to.

this is the problem of living w/out regulated measurements of sales though, right? his detractors are wrong, gucci's music has resonated w/ huge numbers of rap fans.

also think he rated the album about ten per cent too highly. that, like me, he doesn't dig "the run of mid-album R&B tracks" i think shows grading on a curve and what a low bar we have for the rap album format these days.

if you read his blog he actually does like the R&B tracks aside from spotlight, he just doesnt like their sequencing & how it slows down the record in the middle.

fucking brand nubian promoted 'ignorance' too, the problem is w/ ppl confusing style with substantive ideas -- gucci's style embraces 'uneducated' slang-y street dialect but that doesnt mean hes an ignorant person or that his ideas are any worse than lord jamars, which is kind of tom's point in bringing up 'worst enemy'

of course i also think the idea that records are any more/less consistent now than they were back when is a total fallacy

it's called "the best of the cold war mixtapes" but like half of it is from burrprint 3d and "photo shoot" is on it

also think he rated the album about ten per cent too highly. that, like me, he doesn't dig "the run of mid-album R&B tracks" i think shows grading on a curve and what a low bar we have for the rap album format these days.

rap reviews get systematically lower scores on pitchfork compared to other genres. it's a brilliantly produced album by one of the most exciting rappers around, with some questionable pacing and a dogshit lead single. i am sure there are billion of non-rap albums with imperfect pacing and a couple dud tracks that have scored at least ten per-cent higher than 8.0. the album's a pleasure to listen to, i think that counts for a lot.

i'm put you in the papaaaaaaaaaaaaa

yeah i just threw my personal opinion re rating in there as an aside to a nitpick, i wouldn't make too much out of a person's exact tally of their reaction unless there's some huge gulf.

not a lot wrong with what deej says in isolation, but not really responses to what i said.

lol..."free gucci mane. free boosie. keep lil wayne outta jail." also if anyone can tell me anything about the 25 different companies he shouts out at the end that would be nice

woulda liked to hear him flip the hook

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=en2kNJfWBLs