John Peel RIP

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I remember Peel playing Level 42's 'Running In The Family' when it was high in the charts. That, and the Ohio Players, Prince Far-I, and Duran Duran's 'Planet Earth'.

Edmundo (Edmundo), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:35 (twenty-one years ago)

my listened to john peel lots. the last time i heard his show was about 4 weeks ago in her car and he played "weak mcs" by jookie mondo which says it all really.

se15, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:39 (twenty-one years ago)

11pm Radio 1 - Lamo with a peel tribute

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:46 (twenty-one years ago)

So I didn't grow up listening to him, but he introduced me to the Fall just in the last year. Thanks, John.

Lukas (lukas), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Andy Kershaw on Channel Four News: ''He said Radio One was killing him'' Why he got put back an hour i will never know.

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm glad someone said something about that.

neil tacus (tacit), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 17:28 (twenty-one years ago)

so sad. i heard about this morning, as i was driving in the funeral procession for my grandmother.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I only really heard him through BBC World this past year, when I finally got to understand the appeal (outside of the all the Peel Sessions I picked up eons ago). Electic and omnivorous, we can only hope to be so interested in new music after so many decades.

Guymauve (Guymauve), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Indeed. It's well and good to be an expert on bands everyone knows and loves, but what struck me about Peel's show was his absolute and continuing enthusiasm for music being made NOW, and the joy he took in introducing it to his listeners.

Bren (Bren), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:38 (twenty-one years ago)

This makes me very, very sad. I immediately thought how appropriate and nice it was that he lived through the summer and died in the fall, without realizing the pun until about two minutes ago.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. RIP.

as other Americans have noted, I only became aware of him through the mighty Peel Sessions releases. To me, the definitive version of "New Rose" remains the Peel one which starts with "Are we really 65 on the charts?!" First heard it -- and first heard The Damned -- on the 21 Years of Alternative Radio CD from 1988; it would be a couple years before I heard the original. And yeah, as others mentioned, was first able to hear him live these last few years thanks to the miracle of this here internet. Most recently, just a few weeks ago when he had Jeff Mills on. Thanks as ever to DJ Martian for posting about that one, and for generally keeping us all informed when there would be interesting guests on the show.

I've known at least two or three minor US indie bands over the years who were positively thrilled to have received play on Peel's show. Forget about minor victories like selling out a press-run of a self-released single or CD; it seemed like the ultimate validation was to get airplay on the Peel show, even if only once.

First thing I instinctively reached for was the Soft Machine Peel Sessions, where Wyatt improvises lyrics to "Moon in June" including a shout-out to Mr. Peel. Got the Dandelion catalog (Siren, Medicine Head, Tractor, Bridget) and some Fall cued up next. Thanks for your good work, John.

Stormy Davis (diamond), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Moon in June was the first thing i played too... then the undertones..

Jack Battery-Pack (Jack Battery-Pack), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Maria -- oh no.

In the early '90s, Carol and I used to occasionally give our last half-hour on the air to one of those packaged "Peel Out in the States" shows. Unless I'm misremembering, even there sometimes he'd start a record at the wrong speed.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 18:53 (twenty-one years ago)

A friend emailed me today saying "Who's going to play records at the wrong speed for our children?" which is probably more appropriate and poignant than he realised.

Onimo (GerryNemo), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:26 (twenty-one years ago)

my boyfriend's brother's sister once had dinner with someone whose ex had worked with JP for a very long time.

this person reckoned that the beeb would never again allow one person to gain so much internal political clout as JP - one of the radio 1 studio's aircon goes down, many requests for action to R1 management, nothing - this had been going for months and months. JP is informed of problem, digs out bulging private phonebook and calls one of BBC governors at home, next day problem sorted.

BBC, UK, everyone had him down to keep broadcasting 'til he croaked Alistair Cooke style ie 80? 90? 100? who gives a fuck? they would've knighted him long ago if he would've been uncool enough to accept it.

Home Truths was gonna be his vehicle into serene senility.

so young. very very sad.

john clarkson, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Martian, at what point in the show did Underworld play the sample? I seem to have missed it.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 19:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm torn up.

Vic Fluro, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll tell you what - it's the kids who have really lost out here - john has shaped us but there are thousands of teenagers who will never be exposed to the music which peel played. losing peel is a great loss and mainly for people who will never know.

myke boomnoise (myke boomnoise), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I said it elsewhere in reaction to this: I'm probably not feeling it as much as those who have actually heard the show, but because I know Peel has been a fantastic promoter of music I've loved through the years, I know it's a huge loss. I just wish I had been able to listen in. :(

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Martian, at what point in the show did Underworld play the sample? I seem to have missed it.

it's pretty early on, around 15 mins in? it may be listed as a Mr & Mrs Christmas track on the site

Freelance Hiveminder (blueski), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Sean hit my nail on the head. I've only heard a few Official Peel Sessions recordings, but I also snagged a Nina Nastasia session online that I'm guessing was recorded w/ Peel close @ hand. It was fantastic. He left way too soon. RIP.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)

John Peel was a producer, right?

Nowell (Nowell), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Today's my birthday, and I've had a shite day...but this has made it twice as worse and yet has still put things in perspective. In pace requiescat, Peelie.

Ian Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:50 (twenty-one years ago)

What would have been the last song he spun over the air?

I meant to ask, what was the last song he spun over the air?

billstevejim, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 20:52 (twenty-one years ago)

so many legends have died during my lifetime but this is the first time i have been really, really affected. so many tears today. it really does feel like one of the family has gone.

stirmonster, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I can't believe how sad I feel. Shared by more or less everyone I know. Save for family (and not all of them) I honestly can't think of any other death in my lifetime that has affected me so. Really torn up.

RIP.

gerardo francisco, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

(Reason being, that I can't pretend anything other than that he HAS changed my life.)

gerardo francisco, Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

This is grim news, he was a man among mice

Ben Dot (1977), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 21:25 (twenty-one years ago)

The ILE thread is quite a bit longer than this one ... here it is, linked for future reference, since I'm sure people will want to search both in the future:
John Peel RIP

I'm listening (via R1 stream) to the Peel tribute show. It's great, they're playing everything from faves I know and love ("Love Will Tear Us Apart", "Chime") to things I hadn't heard about before today's threads (The Damned's "Cars" "cover", Laura Cantrell). They've just played PJ Harvey and SFA back-to-back. This is great fun, albeit bittersweet fun, of course :(

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

shit- this is horrible news.. as soon as I heard I realised how much good music id heard through him...bad day

squirrelbait (squirrelbait), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

John Peel's show was where I first heard so much of the music that changed my life. He DJed once at our uni when I was a wee student - he played "Rebel Without A Pause" for me. Me and Mrs vague have been in shock today on hearing of John's death. There will never, ever be another DJ who comes close to matching what he has achieved.

noodle vague (noodle vague), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I was completely stopped in my tracks when I heard this, watching Newsnight; just not right that he shouldn't be around any more... feels like a great chunk of my past has just been frozen, packed away. He has left too soon. :(

A major loss to British broadcasting, and it does feel personal: he did so much to get me into alternative music of all sorts, and importantly did it in an avuncular, laconic way.
One of his major contributions was to increase a knowledge and love of music in his listeners; the younger of us (I first heard him aged 14 in 1997) have benefitted not just from his shows, but the passions they have instilled over the years in his listeners... he does have a legacy and it is showed in the effect upon so many listeners. Let's hope that his example can be followed... he is an 'irreplaceable' personality, my word yes, but there's an ethos that I don't feel we can afford to lose.

Heartfelt condolences to his family, and rest in peace John.

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:31 (twenty-one years ago)

(I first heard him aged 14 in 1997

I first heard him aged 14 in 1987. I love that the 10 year age gap just changes one digit.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I was listening to him aged 14 in 1977, having first heard him aged 14 in 1976.

Still can't find the words. A personal hero, and an absolute lifeline during my miserable fucked-up adolescence.

mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

If someone can turn up and say "I first listened to him aged 14 in 1967", I'll be very happy, but it won't make up for it not possible for someone to ever say: "I first listened to him aged 14 in 2007".

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Thanks for taking Callum's bullshit off this wonderful thread, whoever it was.

neil tacus (tacit), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:44 (twenty-one years ago)

The CBC radio program As It Happens just did a profile on John Peel and the influence he had not only over radio but over the success of many musicians. And at the end of it they played "Teenage Kicks".

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

It's been months since I last listened to his show, at least since May/June, if I've listened to the radio at all at night it has been to Mark Radcliffe on Radio 2, I'm sorry about not listening to the programme for so long and it breaks my heart to think I'll never hear him again. He was there when I started to listen to music, and his show was where I did that. I suppose in a way, I took it for granted that he'd somehow always be there, I took him for granted which I'm sad about.
RIP

David Merryweather (DavidM), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)

So true, David. I feel very sad that I didn't listen to his show as much as I should have in recent years... but that doesn't alter the epiphany of listening to him through 1998, 1999 particularly, at an uncertain point in my life. I don't know how I'll cope if I dig out any of the dusty cassette recordings I made from his shows in those years... :( Momus was very right that he is partly so loved as he was a sentimental soul, and of the best, genuine sort. Me listening to those tapes now would be like Peel and his relation to Liverpool, LFC, Bill Shankley (anyone remember that TV programme on local musics he did c. 98-9, 'john peel's sounds of the suburbs'? very sweet that was), socialism, The Pig... he feels like family, and also representative of so much that's good in our country; respect for old things he loves, but also a wonderful curiosity about the new. And also a sense of absurdity and making the little things of life entertaining, when just rambling on with that great voice.

As has been said in one of these threads; it just felt warm and right that he always was *there*, doing his show in inimitable fashion, even if we might have moved on from being regular listeners...

Tom May (Tom May), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Great! what the hell are we gonna do for a World President now?

Seriously, this is so fucked. I hope the BBC have got at some of those shows on tape. I hope they start classes *teaching* DJs to appreciate music like JP did.

Won't make for the loss of the guy himself though :-(


phil jones (interstar), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 23:42 (twenty-one years ago)

Tom - I do remember it. I've got the CD soundtrack by me right now. The major thing I remember is him going to the Isle Of Wight... and who'd do that now?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Tuesday, 26 October 2004 23:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I remember that (talking on the beach with some female indie singer, I strongly remember), and also the trips north of the border to talk to the Delgados/visit Shankley's birthplace (IIRC) and even one to Sunderland, briefly... What's on the soundtrack, William? Obviously Delgados...

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 00:08 (twenty-one years ago)

'John Peel's Sounds Of The Suburbs', Shifty Disco, 2 CD's, these are the tracklistings:

Samurai Seven - Sound Of The Suburbs
High Fidelity - Lazy B
Delgados - Everything Goes Around The Water
Radio Sweethearts - Real Ghost Town
Nought - Cough Cap Kitty Cat (1998)
Pat Thomas - Remembering
Lab 4 - Reformation II
Lucie Chivers - Dioddef Amdanat
Reviver Gene - Strap Me Up
60ft Dolls - Baby Says Yeah
Blew - In C
The Jones Machine - That Booze Magic (Cheggars Mix)

Robert Wyatt - Free Will And Testament
Solid Doctor - Holy Roller
Back To Base - Electric Eye (Crown Yourself King Mix)
Mr Ed - Blue
Lianne Hall - Cosy
Fun'da'mental - Ja Sha Taan
Exploding Thumbs - Desert Song
Waterson-Carthy - Ye Mariners All
Twosheds - Don't Go To Darlington
Myormay - Clear
Comatose - Turtle's Head

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, those last three or four were from the north-east edition. I may have a few of them taped off-air still; i hope i do.

Still struggling to come to any sort of terms about this; especially as it does feel all too likely that we might have seen the end of his sort of ethos; aye, the Reithian ideal, but geared towards independent/alternative ends... it may be possible there could be a national DJ with a notably eclectic taste in records, but it'll take an awful lot of time for anyone to match the broadcasting skills of Peel, and crucially his empathy with all the listeners; he brought a lot more to the table than just a wide musical taste... his whole character was wonderfully reassuring and 'traditional' in some ways, and this, i think, helped him achieve an audience for his music shows...

Marcello is spot-on in mentioning Stanshall and Cutler, btw, in his blog tribute; he did more than any in encouraging these sort of incomparable people. Peel was good in not just going for blanket 'styles' of music, but finding people who didn't fit into 'genres' one iota.

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

When the day is done, and the ball has spun
In the umpire's pocket away
And all remains is the groundsman's pains
For the rest of time and a day
There'll be one mad dog and his master
Pushing for four with the spin
On a dusty pitch, with two pounds six
Of willowwood in the sun.

When an old cricketer leaves the crease
You never know whether he's gone
If maybe you're catching a fleeting glimpse
Of a twelfth man at silly mid-on.

And it could be Geoff, and it could be John
With a new ball sting in his tail
And it could be me, and it could be thee
And it could be the sting in the ale.

Acme (acme), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I live in Australia and can only really comprehend the mythical status that John Peel warrants.

I only ever got hear him via the BBC World Service once a week. In that short space of time they broadcasted his hour-long show, I was totally thankful to finally hear what all the fuss was about after only ever reading about this legend (yes 'legend' is now offical) in UK mags such as NME, Record Collector, MOJO, and radio guides.

It's weird, tears have welled up after reading everyone's posts, and yet, I too, feel I've taken the same journey as others on ILM. He was the "Indie Uncle" I never knew! The respect I garnered for him was due to what I'd read other than heard. Damn! I just wish I had a friend in England who could have sent me regular tapes of his shows, looking back.

My sympathies go out to everyone who sheltered under his musical umbrella: he would have been the only reason I wished I was a teenager throughout the '70s.

To quote one of the great '80s bands he so championed.."There is a light that never goes out...".

Rest In Eternal Peace" John Peel

herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

His contributions were many and great. He'll be missed.

Andrew (enneff), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 03:26 (twenty-one years ago)

JOHN PEEL: The formidable alterno-colossus was the tramp-resembling bloke scowling at the back of that infamous original R1 group photo on the steps of All Soul's Church by Broadcasting House. He'd got there via California, Dallas and the heady days of the 60s pirate stations, but John Robert Parker Ravenscroft (as we're duty bound to refer to him), despite often embodying the exact opposite of many of the station's favourite fly-by-nights, has remained a solid fixture on The One ever since, mostly by dint of being any good. From the days of the wonderfully of-its-time Perfumed Garden and Top Gear, through prog, punk, "new wave" (Gang Of Four and Wire, generally), "indie" (anything on Beggars Banquet and Factory, generally), and onwards, The Peel has championed and promoted the best (and, to be fair, a good measure of the worst - Carcass, anyone?) music of the last three-plus decades, without ever appearing a bandwagon-jumper. Show, until recently, always introed with the increasingly inappropriate blues plodding of Grinderswitch. But at least as much as the music, the manner maketh the man, and the eternally-bearded (even his voice seems to have a beard these days) JP has, in spite of himself, developed an unmistakeable aural persona. Playing records at the wrong speed (still, after about 40 years in which to get it right); never talking over a fade-out if he can help it (often resulting in a battle of wits with some avant-garde stop-start-ending disc); continually praising The Fall above most everything else except Liverpool FC (nothing wrong there); continually bemoaning the state (ie lack of Fall songs) of the reader-voted and self-compiled Festive 50 chart; odd, whimsical shaggy dog anecdotes about his kids meeting the bloke out of Napalm Death on a ferry, or buying underpants; odd, silly anecdotes about long-time producer John "What's on!" Walters etc etc. It all sounds frighteningly misconstrued, but it works, generally due to Peel's unforced and self-effacing on-air style, unlike his one-time sworn enemy The Bates (fact - the only two people in the world who hate John Peel are Bates and the singer off The Pooh Sticks. Enough said.) Still with R1, and is unlikely to be shifted in the foreseeable future - pipe, slippers and fucking in the streets.

courtesy of TV Cream (UK)

herbalizer12 (herbalizer12), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 03:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Phil, from experience at a much smaller broadcaster, my guess is that Peel probably ran tape on every show, if not the BBC itself.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 05:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Or: " . . . Peel, if not the BBC itself, ran tape on every show."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Wednesday, 27 October 2004 05:39 (twenty-one years ago)


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