100 Reasons Why "Ignition - Remix" Is So Damned Great

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96. and where is his aim

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

97. well let me just answer that question

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

98. with a question:

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

99. "Where the party at?"

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

100. Thank you, good night

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:31 (twenty-two years ago)

good night.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

101) then after the show its the aaaafter paaaarty / and after the party its the hotel lobbbbby

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:37 (twenty-two years ago)

'i will gorgeously re-sing an element of my previous hit fiesta to show you how this new song is astonishingly superior to that previous high water mark'

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

previous previous previous, shamefully i didnt even like r til fiesta remix now i adore him

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:39 (twenty-two years ago)

and it felt sort of shameful since jay was on it and stuff, im happy this new song is converting so many people now by being a perfect example of what he does best and without a rap even!!!

trife (simon_tr), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:40 (twenty-two years ago)

102) We can get this far without mentioning 'it's like murder she wrote'.

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

103) if the ilx massive takes this thread up to 200 reasons then world domination cannot be far off

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

104) and you're right Cozen the "it's like murder she wrote" line is genius

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)

105) and totally incongruous.

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 15 June 2003 20:57 (twenty-two years ago)

106) well yeah hence the genius

J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Sunday, 15 June 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

106) aye

Cozen (Cozen), Sunday, 15 June 2003 21:05 (twenty-two years ago)

107) How is it that a man who can make a song as horrible as "I Believe I Can Fly" also create something as perfect and sublime as "Ignition (Remix)"? Somehow the fact that he has made some truly awful songs in his career makes this song even better.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Sunday, 15 June 2003 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

"then I'll take it to your room and--- (beat rat a tats) ---somebody."

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:14 (twenty-two years ago)

108)After the "peeing on a 14 year-old" thing broke, R. was a shamed, sorry human being, looking for a hug. Then he realized he could still sell records, and now it's like he revels in being sexy in a kinda lectcherous way. This is his rebirth.

Colin McElligatt, Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:39 (twenty-two years ago)

109. It doesn't sound very reggae or Prince to me, but Philly soul. It's really got the same sort of smoothness.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I NEED TO HEAR THIS SONG SO MUTHERFUCKIN' BAD!

Goddamnit! Why I have I not heard this yet. Who DENIES me?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Sunday, 15 June 2003 23:46 (twenty-two years ago)

110. That even though I've thought about it for months now, I still can't figure out what the closing metaphor ("You must be a football coach/The way you got me playin’ the field") means but I still smile everytime I hear it. Someone wanna try to parse that rhyme down?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"If there's grass on the field..."

Kris (aqueduct), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

What do you guys think of "Snake"?

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Cuz who's the football coach? And if it's another woman, why would she be pleased to hear that she's inspired RK to fuck around? Is RK fucking a HIPPIE?!?!?

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Monday, 16 June 2003 00:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Can someone explain what Murder She Wrote has to do with the lyrics? I am totally fucking baffled by that reference.

In context:

now its like Murder She Wrote
once I get you out them clothes
privacy is on the door
still they can hear you screamin' more
girl im feelin what you feelin
no more hopin' and wishin'
I'm 'bout to take my key and
stick it in the ignition

I......can't.....stop.....listening.....to......it.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)

About the football reference - you know, she's making him work hard to get her (he's "playing the field" = out to get girls). So he's playing the field, like football. She's, um, like his football coach. Or something. It barely works, but I get it.

111) What does this song have in common with the original "Ignition" besides some lyrical similarities, chiefly the really awful "stick my key in the ignition" vagina/woman = car thing? How is a completely different song on every level a remix?

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)

murder she wrote = screaming overheard from behind closed doors?

minna (minna), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:30 (twenty-two years ago)

well, it's based on the same drum pattern/sound as "Ignition", although it adds in some hi-hats and stuff, and expands on the famed "bounce bounce bounce bounce".

also, I think "Murder She Wrote" is being employed with the same meaning as "that's all she wrote". that is, it's ovah.

Al (sitcom), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know. I think of a band like the Ramones who used the same drum pattern/sound all the time, and repeated lyrics too, and yet it is easy to accept those all as being different songs. It's just funny to think of a song which sounds very, very different from another with shared elements being considered an alternate version.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

also, I think "Murder She Wrote" is being employed with the same meaning as "that's all she wrote". that is, it's ovah.

Exactly what I was thinking.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess that makes sense, I'll go with it.

But "murder" and "that's all" have the same number of syllables! Why sing "murder" instead?

So weird! But I like it.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)

What does this song have in common with the original "Ignition" besides some lyrical similarities, chiefly the really awful "stick my key in the ignition" vagina/woman = car thing? How is a completely different song on every level a remix?

You have to hear the two side by side on the album for it to really click.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Are there any other similarly great songs on Chocolate Factory?

The only R Kelly album which I own is the record with Jay-Z, which has some fantastic stuff on it, "Honey" and "Shake Yo Body" in particular.

Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 16 June 2003 02:34 (twenty-two years ago)

"Murder She Wrote" = Chaka Demus & Pliers dancehall hit from early '90s. There's your reggae link John D.

There's also the whole "I'm-a murder that coochie" vibe there that is mighty distasteful if you think about it much but who's thinking? To think is not TO DO. And that's ALL he wants to do.

Neudonym, Monday, 16 June 2003 03:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Are there any other similarly great songs on Chocolate Factory?

The title track and "Snake" are pretty great, but the album, on the whole, is unremarkable.

Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 16 June 2003 03:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anyone here remember "You Remind Me of My Jeep" from like three or so R Kelly records ago? Similar idea to "let me stick my key in the ignition" but far more ridiculous.

sammy, Monday, 16 June 2003 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)

112) He starts with an apology: "I'm not tryin' to be rude..."

113) How slow is this damn song? You can't mix it with anything. The party slows down like bullet time when the man walks in.

114) Said party is suspiciously like a gender-segregated seventh grade dance: fellas on the left, honeys on the right. The ringmaster's job is to bring them together.

115) Stretch Navigator...yes, a simple Navigator isn't enough to contain this party; however, all overt bling (Cristal, Nav) is strictly throwaway in the verses. The important stuff is in the chorus. Toot toot.

116) *Freakin'?* Who says freakin'? It's like he just finished watching Goodfellas and Casino on broadcast television before he wrote the chorus.

r. geary (rgeary), Monday, 16 June 2003 04:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I got so hooked. I think I listened to this song 100 times today.

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 16 June 2003 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)

that chorus is like crack

s1utsky (slutsky), Monday, 16 June 2003 05:20 (twenty-two years ago)

i like his fat mate doing the bouncy hand gestures behind him in the bit with the shelf of bottles - why he there ?

the nerdy clothing jewellery mix, the crouchy dance, that video is great.

he doesn't have a fro in the vid = it's all about the wanting/ the dreaming, ever been at a cool party but thought damn..if only (x) would happen this would be a McCutchian perfect moment.

s.r.w. (s.r.w.), Monday, 16 June 2003 06:37 (twenty-two years ago)

117. It has saved ILM!

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 16 June 2003 07:00 (twenty-two years ago)

118. The way the chorus sounds totally wistful for an as-yet-happening present ('the weekend' is here!)

119. As noted by Tim F, the fronthanded backhandedness of the bawdy insinuation of those kick drums.

Cozen (Cozen), Monday, 16 June 2003 11:22 (twenty-two years ago)

113) How slow is this damn song? You can't mix it with anything. The party slows down like bullet time when the man walks in

There was a spot on the Saturday Show at the weekend where one of Blazing Squad was dj-ing, mixing it with garage. Sounded great.

David (David), Monday, 16 June 2003 11:39 (twenty-two years ago)

There's a much faster garagey mix doing the rounds, I hear it a lot in shops. I don't like it, though.

Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Monday, 16 June 2003 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

The Blazing Squad guy was just mixing a garage record over the R. Kelly at what sounded pretty much like its original speed. Not sure what the bpm of the R. Kelly is but it's very slow so it might well be an almost exact half of a typical garage tempo, say 140->70.

David (David), Monday, 16 June 2003 11:55 (twenty-two years ago)

120. OK, this far in, and STILL no one has mentioned the best part of the song - the sing-song back-and-forth at the very end of the song, in which R. Kelly trades lines with, um, R. Kelly.

121. Also, I have to reiterate: "And after the show, it's the afterparty/And after the party it's the hotel lobby/'Round about 4 you gotta clear the lobby/And take it to your room and ___ somebody."

NA. (Nick A.), Monday, 16 June 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

This song is seriously one of the worst things on the radio right now. Worse than A Simple Plan. Worse than the new Live single. Worse than the enervated, uninvolving Black Eyed Peas/JT single. It has absolutely no redeeming qualities whatsoever and every time it comes on the radio I always want to beat R Kelly about the head and shoulders with a bat for the intervening seconds it takes for me to lunge across the room and switch the station.

The beat is horrible. There's no meat or presence to it whatsoever. It doesn't even try to work a mellow groove; it just sits there and farts along like a senile gassy grandmother. R Kelly's singing cadence is HELLA ANNOYING in this song; it's like he's doing a Wierd Al parody of himself with every vestige of humor carefully excised with surgical precision. The song itself is dumb even by R. Kelly standards; the robo-delivery highlights this in the worst possible way.

AND FOR GOD'S SAKE IT HAS THE WORST CHORUS ON THE RADIO. Even Eminem's deeply-embarassing yelping in "Sing For The Moment" is better than this shit. Also, for such an allegedly-catchy song I'm having a really difficult time remembering how it goes.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 16 June 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

dan perry read the instructions!

minna (minna), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:06 (twenty-two years ago)

i made a thread POX: r kelly

minna (minna), Monday, 16 June 2003 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)


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