Not when applied to Facebook apps.
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― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:38 (fourteen years ago) link
facebook users harbor pent-up demand for an album that's been widely available for 6 years now
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:43 (fourteen years ago) link
i don't get it! what does this app do?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:45 (fourteen years ago) link
It makes little replicas of the album appear on the wall of the person you send it to. Just another little gift app that people waste time with.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:48 (fourteen years ago) link
neil hand delivers copies of the albums to your friends
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 17:56 (fourteen years ago) link
Unless you ask to send Time Fades Away, which causes him to come to your house and confiscate any vinyl or MP3s of said album in your possession.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
that was a bug, it's working now
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:07 (fourteen years ago) link
btw i've been a longtime user of the neil gift app!!! it is good for getting chicks.
― ian, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:14 (fourteen years ago) link
chicks are always impressed with facebook gift app prowess iirc ... mix it w/ a healthy knowledge of Neil Young bootlegs and you are good to go.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 18:17 (fourteen years ago) link
off topic, but the other facebook gift app that the ladies love is "electroacoustic music gifts."
― ian, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Totally on topic, as it is the season to give.
― grandavis, Wednesday, 16 December 2009 21:26 (fourteen years ago) link
How does Zuma fit into this discussion? It rocks a little harder, but still has the same burned out vibe as Tonight's the Night and On the Beach.
― Chonus, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:20 (fourteen years ago) link
Zuma is the I'm-single-and-loving-it album. He's over the malaise.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:21 (fourteen years ago) link
i love Zuma, and it's patchwork nature, with CSNY harmonies and Crazy Horse jams on the same record. wonder if that bugged crosby.
― mizzell, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:25 (fourteen years ago) link
Zuma is my favourite NY album
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:32 (fourteen years ago) link
was just talking to friend who thought that Zuma should be grouped in with the previous three albums. I think the main difference is in the guitar playing -- Zuma's where we get our first real glimpse of what "Neil Young" guitar playing would be. Not that he hadn't played plenty of lead guitar beforehand, but Zuma's got those big wind-blown solos that would become his trademark.
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:41 (fourteen years ago) link
And those chunk-a-chunk chords.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:43 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, totally -- but lyrically, it is as "down" as many of those ditch records ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:45 (fourteen years ago) link
He was hardly Mr. Happy-Go-Lucky before that
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:51 (fourteen years ago) link
true
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
isn't Zuma the only one with just Crazy Horse?
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:54 (fourteen years ago) link
(out of the four I mean)
Tonight's The Night is Crazy Horse
― kornrulez6969, Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:55 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah but it's got Nils and stuff on it. . . I dunno. Zuma seems like a separate thing to me!
― that sex version of "blue thunder." (Mr. Que), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Zuma is Crazy Horse. TTN has Nils Lofgren, Ben Keith, David Briggs on it?
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 15:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Zuma is the first with Frank Sampredo
― Sonny Uplands (Tom D.), Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:01 (fourteen years ago) link
Zuma's the only one credited to Crazy Horse ... and even that has CSNY and a recording from previous sessions ... It's funny - most of the Crazy Horse records are actually hodgepodges ...
― tylerw, Thursday, 17 December 2009 16:07 (fourteen years ago) link
they're all hodgepodges
time fades away has stuff from '71 on it, "l.a." was written in the late 60s
the TTN acetate from '73 has "winterlong", "walk on" and "for the turnstiles" on it
"don't cry no tears" from zuma had been kicking around for a decade, and he played "pardon my heart" at the 74 bottom line show, which is mostly TTN and OTB material
the 3 proper ditch albums are as different from each other as they are from zuma, so the demarcations aren't really clear, and are in fact pretty artificial
it's almost like neil would just record and record and record, making compilations of his own stuff, trying out different arrangements of things, rather than go into the studio with a set of songs to record and release
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:25 (fourteen years ago) link
"walk on" sounds like it could fit right on TTN
― you are wrong I'm bone thugs in harmon (omar little), Thursday, 17 December 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
it was actually from the Harvest era, right?
― mizzell, Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:27 (fourteen years ago) link
wiki says "see the sky about to rain" was harvest-era, not sure about "walk on"
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:30 (fourteen years ago) link
that's what i was thinking of.
― mizzell, Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link
"walk on" sounds like it could fit right on TTNSo does "For the Turnstiles."
― Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 18 December 2009 05:04 (fourteen years ago) link
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Friday, 18 December 2009 16:08 (fourteen years ago) link
The three records, along with Zuma, are in a class of their own. But can anyone suggest artists or albums that approximate the same burned out vibe?
― Chonus, Monday, 21 December 2009 16:48 (fourteen years ago) link
townes van zandt and skip spence?
― kamerad, Monday, 21 December 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
Big Star Third/Sister Lovers
― WmC, Monday, 21 December 2009 16:52 (fourteen years ago) link
david crosby - "if i could only remember my name"
― jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 21 December 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link
See this thread.
― Euler, Monday, 21 December 2009 16:59 (fourteen years ago) link
Those are all good. No Other, and to my ears, Aja, embody it, as well.
What about contemporary artists? Jeff Tweedy tries too hard. Jason Molina comes a little closer, but his work can be a slog. Will Oldham?
― Chonus, Monday, 21 December 2009 17:15 (fourteen years ago) link
Oakley Hall are worth a look. Kurt Vile, My Morning Jacket's early stuff always gets these comparisons. I kinda like the Tennessee Fire, I guess.mmmm not a whole lot, really.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 21 December 2009 17:31 (fourteen years ago) link
If you're broad enough in your sonic palette, you can follow Tim F and others' suggestions in the thread on exhaustion I linked to, and find contemporary suggestions from dance music broadly understood.
― Euler, Monday, 21 December 2009 17:39 (fourteen years ago) link
my morning jacket is so muppety and barfy
― jealous ones sb (M@tt He1ges0n), Monday, 21 December 2009 17:54 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, I don't have any of their records, I don't know.
― Trip Maker, Monday, 21 December 2009 17:57 (fourteen years ago) link
i think Wilco's Being There is a pretty transparent attempt to do a Tonight's The Night/Exile on Main St. kinda thing. And it's good! Not as great as those records obviously. I guess Being There is like 13 years old now, isn't it.
― tylerw, Monday, 21 December 2009 18:00 (fourteen years ago) link
i love MMJ (esp At Dawn and It Still Moves) but i think they're more everybody knows-era than ditch.
― open the door, there's a bag on fire (stevie), Monday, 21 December 2009 18:03 (fourteen years ago) link
Cool turn of direction for a cool thread...
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 21 December 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link
And to briefly turn it back to a previous direction...
(no tunes? really?
I'm not saying TTN doesn't have "good tunes" -- just that none of them ranks up there with his best. But the point is, the record isn't about tunes, per se -- it's about the overall vibe and aesthetic. I mean, you can hear the guy who did Gold Rush on there pretty clearly, skills intact -- but on the whole, it literally sounds like he passed out or sank into a brutal depression in the middle of writing these songs.
All that said, song-for-song, I find On the Beach (to which Marsh, btw, gives two stars in the Rolling Stone Record Guide) a more rewarding listen.
― Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 21 December 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link
Tuneless? Not with "Tonight's the Night," "Speakin' Out," "Borrowed Tune," "World on a String," and "Downtown" one after the other.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 21 December 2009 19:23 (fourteen years ago) link
q, for this thread i guess: has anyone else written lyrics that so explicitly engage their contemporaries? NY seems to explicitly name-check so many other artists and his own life and times, in a way that seems totally unlike any other songwriter i can think of
am i wrong?
― deej--nuts, butthurt, and yelly (gbx), Monday, 21 December 2009 23:01 (fourteen years ago) link