The God Machine: Great Lost band?

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Relistened to Scenes for the first time in a while today. The power was still there, refracted, recast in my mind, maybe less immediate than I had first thought, but just as intense and dramatic overall. "It's All Over" in particular leapt out at me, the burnt, sad acoustic guitar-led song smack dab in the middle of the album, rivalling anything as gripping as what the Cure did in Faith/Pornography days, to echo Fabrice there. "Purity" in particular still feels like a combination of benediction and exorcism. The show they played with Swans in 1992 in London that I read about in MM must have been a mindblower.

Great way around covers too -- Bauhaus, Echo and the Bunnymen, Peggy Lee and the KLF? Genius.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 14 May 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
"Scenes from the second storey" is one of the greatest albums of all time. If you don't own it go to e-bay and buy it now! Beautiful!

Dr Greyhound (Dr Greyhound), Monday, 16 January 2006 12:26 (twenty years ago)

One Last laugh... is bloody great too.

I always regret not going to see them.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Monday, 16 January 2006 12:57 (twenty years ago)

I was lucky enough to see them at the St.Helens Citadel in 1992. They had an atmospheric intro tape of monks chanting that went on for about 15 minutes. I've never heard three people make so much noise before. Also Ronald Austin went through about 5 sets of drum sticks! Intense.

Dr Greyhound (Dr Greyhound), Monday, 16 January 2006 13:15 (twenty years ago)

Great fucking band. Put on an amazing show at CBGB's back in the day that I remember in part because a bunch of people I knew were there who hated much "loud" music yet I thought the band were as heavy as anything, especially live.

Brian O'Neill (NYCNative), Monday, 16 January 2006 13:18 (twenty years ago)

one month passes...
unbelievble fact that this is the only thread about "god machine".
there arent many bands who elevate metal into an effective art form.(ok,also indie..)

revivel, Wednesday, 22 February 2006 18:58 (twenty years ago)

and only 16 answers too.

Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 19:48 (twenty years ago)

sophia can rock out if they want, ned. anyways they have nothing to do with alt-country. more like alt-sentimental. did robin proper-sheppard release anything after the phantastic people are like seasons?

alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 20:49 (twenty years ago)

I miss the God Machine. One Last Laugh is one of my favorite album of all times and remains so linked to a very specific time and place. Never really got into Sophia though

Le Baaderonixx de Clignancourt (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 22 February 2006 23:01 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
I just popped in Scenes From The Second Storey while organizing CDs, explaining to my friend helping me that he would love it. He asked me to describe it; I said that back when it came out I threw them in with Course Of Empire (another overlooked group) in that they were shoegazing and metallic at a time when those two camps didn't converge all that much. Upon the listen tonight, I feel kinda the same way - they definitely set the table for the Aereogramme's of the world, methinks (until the new dissonance-free disc at least).

I remember seeing the band play CBGBs when that disc came out, one of the best shows I ever saw. All of my 'alternative' friends were there wondering why the hell I went and I thought it was the sillliest question I was ever asked especially since the band was even heavier and more dense live.

NYCNative, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

Ah funny, I also put it on the other day and was thinking that with proper marketing this could be sold as the godfathers of emo (with an obligatory oliver stone biopic)

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 09:15 (nineteen years ago)

Wish I had seen them live. One of my absolute all-time favourite bands. And as I said 4 years ago (up above) Sophia were really good supporting Mogwai, and I listen to that Mayqueens album regularly.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 11:57 (nineteen years ago)

What's the Mayqueens album like?

baaderonixx, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 12:05 (nineteen years ago)

It's a lot poppier than The God Machine. And Nothing like Sophia either.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

Remembering.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 October 2010 15:53 (fifteen years ago)

Absolutely brilliant band (and a nice piece, Ned). My first encounter of the God Machine was a two-minute snippet from some European festival on 120 Minutes. I don't even remember which song it was, but it made quite an impression. A few weeks later I found Scenes... at my local library (in the north of Holland!) and voila.
I also remember the happy shock when I discovered the source of the opening sample of 'Dream Machine', in one of the final scenes of Bertolucci's The Sheltering Sky.

A few years later, after a Sophia concert, I asked Robin if he ever played any GM songs any more. He said he only played 'Boy by the Roadside' now and then, when he was by himself.

Brilliant band.

ArchCarrier, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:30 (fifteen years ago)

Thanks very much. Sometimes I wonder if they are THE great lost band of that time.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 October 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

They are.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 11 October 2010 16:38 (fifteen years ago)

hah i posted on this thread 8 years ago. Saved me retyping the story about Sophia supporting Mogwai.

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 11 October 2010 16:39 (fifteen years ago)

I think i sent nathalie mp3s of the albums iirc

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 11 October 2010 16:40 (fifteen years ago)

GM was probably the only band that's attempted to pick up where the Cure left off after 'Pornography'.

Insta-sold.

I think I saw these fellas on Ned's 136 list when I browsed it a couple weeks ago?

Where to start, etc.?

i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Monday, 11 October 2010 18:13 (fifteen years ago)

Get both albums and you've got most everything, but definitely search out the various singles as you can -- Home, The Desert Song, Ego, the original Purity EP.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 11 October 2010 18:16 (fifteen years ago)

then get some bootlegs

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 11 October 2010 18:20 (fifteen years ago)

Ah yes, okay, I'll search the albums first.

YouTube'd a few tracks and this sounds waaaayy up my alley. Fantastic.

i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Monday, 11 October 2010 18:43 (fifteen years ago)

the god machine piss all over the cure btw

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 11 October 2010 19:06 (fifteen years ago)

Okay let's not get ahead of ourselves Herman...

i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Monday, 11 October 2010 21:32 (fifteen years ago)

Without a doubt, one of the best bands I have seen live, in the 150-200 capacity Hull adelphi. It was rammed and GM floored everybody with their gorgeous - and at that time fairly original-quiet/LOUD.

For some reason,Robin PS's incongruous baseball cap sticks in my mind along with the drummer's felt ball drumsticks.

That and the freakouts by Jimi. A tragic loss.

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Monday, 11 October 2010 22:47 (fifteen years ago)

Sorry, I meant Jimmy. Respect.

Fer Jessie the Drunk Dutch Mountain Ark (Mobbed Up Ping Pong Psychos), Monday, 11 October 2010 22:49 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, a ferocious live band. I recall seeing them in a lot of places like the New Cross Venue, the Underworld, and various Sausage Machine venues. They also played a great + powerful set on the second stage at Reading one year. They were sort of on the periphery of the Camden 'lurch' scene, and certainly played with most of those bands despite not really fitting it, sound-wise.

Position Position, Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)

Well obviously, from the few songs I've now already heard, Jimi's got nothing on Jimmy...

xp

i'm just saying let ilxor say something nice to me ffs (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:05 (fifteen years ago)

I used to have an album by this lot, can't remember much about the way it sounded except that it was a bit miserable. I should dig it out.

A brownish area with points (chap), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 01:09 (fifteen years ago)

Haha one of my first posts up there in 2003. Still love these guys but have to admit that as a comfy mid-30sth I usually find it too intense to listen to them anymore.

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Tuesday, 12 October 2010 09:23 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

God damn, Scenes from the Second Storey is fucking awesome. I think I have the Home cd single somewhere with their lovely version of Fever.

I don't hear The Cure here, hmm?

kraudive, Sunday, 13 May 2012 00:47 (fourteen years ago)

Sorry for the bump, just enjoying the record.

kraudive, Sunday, 13 May 2012 00:48 (fourteen years ago)

It's there, trust me. But it may take a little time to fully sink in.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 May 2012 00:58 (fourteen years ago)

no apologies for bumping; now unsuspecting folks like myself get the privileged of hearing them for the first time...

arby's, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:17 (fourteen years ago)

Ned, you're writing of Disintegration era Cure, I guess?

kraudive, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:28 (fourteen years ago)

Nope -- to quote myself:

"It's All Over" in particular leapt out at me, the burnt, sad acoustic guitar-led song smack dab in the middle of the album, rivalling anything as gripping as what the Cure did in Faith/Pornography days, to echo Fabrice there.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 13 May 2012 01:49 (fourteen years ago)

This band could do with a nice lil' box set collecting all their odds and ends

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Monday, 14 May 2012 10:08 (fourteen years ago)

five years pass...

all of a sudden I need to know if brad has heard Scenes from the Second Storey

Simon H., Tuesday, 7 November 2017 14:51 (eight years ago)

One of my top 5 albums, ever.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:01 (eight years ago)

Wow, I posted in this thread seven years ago.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:05 (eight years ago)

Scenes from the Second Storey is extraordinary. I passed up the chance to see them in 1992, and hugely regret it.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:26 (eight years ago)

blimey i posted on this thread 15 years ago

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:47 (eight years ago)

What's good to check out of the satellite stuff? I've tried a couple of Sophia records, but only desultorily.

The shard-borne beetle with his drowsy hums (Chinaski), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 15:50 (eight years ago)

the may queens album

Algerian Goalkeeper (Odysseus), Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:05 (eight years ago)

May Queens are good, but I like the first two Sophia albums better.

ArchCarrier, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 16:15 (eight years ago)

all of a sudden I need to know if brad has heard Scenes from the Second Storey

Yeah it feels like a Brad album

Tim F, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 20:48 (eight years ago)

It does indeed.

Damn I'm so glad I did see them the once.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:02 (eight years ago)

When I saw this thread was being revived I hoped it might finally mean there was an e.p. compilation appearing. Would love a single cd collection with all those e.p.s with the various cover versions.

Glad I got to see them several times.

There are some live sets and videos that have been shared on torrent sites over the years. hope I still have the drive that has taht stuff on somewhere active.
Not sure what happened to Austin, I know that Robin Proper-Shepherd went on to Sophia.
Also interested to know if he had played guitar much before they became a 3 piece with him on guitar. I'd heard he's previously been a vocalist with limited instrumental experience. Certainly made a good job of what i've heard.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 7 November 2017 21:47 (eight years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iOF-XAeNG_o

Maresn3st, Monday, 17 May 2021 16:08 (five years ago)

Have hoped there might be an e.p. compilation at some point. I think I didn't get them all at the time so would like a one stop you could find them at.

Stevolende, Monday, 17 May 2021 16:10 (five years ago)

Yeah, that would be nice for sure.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 17 May 2021 16:17 (five years ago)

God, what a band. That live set is fantastic.

Just idly noting that Scenes OG vinyl currently going for £530 on Discogs.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Monday, 17 May 2021 18:07 (five years ago)

three weeks pass...

missed this three weeks ago - thank you Maresn3st!

StanM, Monday, 7 June 2021 15:27 (five years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZ3hVzKDP8s

Maresn3st, Monday, 26 July 2021 13:14 (four years ago)

someone needs to reissue this stuff, yes, the second hand prices for the vinyl and even the CD are stupid

akm, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 16:30 (four years ago)

It would be nice, yes.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 16:31 (four years ago)

I suppose I could ask around re: masters ownership, my best friend knows Robin.

akm, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:14 (four years ago)

but I'd guess they are lost, missing, or tied up in some shit

akm, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 17:15 (four years ago)

definitely look into an e.p. collection.

& I don't think they had a live lp during their lifetime did they?

Stevolende, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:24 (four years ago)

No - two albums, 4 EP's, and that's it.

StanM, Tuesday, 27 July 2021 18:35 (four years ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcNSoYBrqjc

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 21:40 (four years ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucoUoCl_LyI

Maresn3st, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 15:39 (four years ago)

thank you! sounds great

StanM, Wednesday, 12 January 2022 17:53 (four years ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvBOp49nYgs

Maresn3st, Sunday, 13 March 2022 12:15 (four years ago)

thank you again!

StanM, Sunday, 13 March 2022 19:32 (four years ago)

No problem, I'll keep posting them when they come up, it's a shame there's not a good radio recording or a live album.

Maresn3st, Monday, 14 March 2022 08:35 (four years ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFjYDt9eeu8

Maresn3st, Sunday, 5 June 2022 11:44 (four years ago)

Thank you! The frustration remains - you just know someone at some venue must be sitting on a soundboard recording but they're keeping quiet...

StanM, Sunday, 5 June 2022 12:15 (four years ago)

At this point what I would really want is a remaster of the first album which always sounded a bit muffled

licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Sunday, 5 June 2022 14:36 (four years ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsKXeyrafrg

MaresNest, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 18:15 (three years ago)

<3

Where do they keep finding these? :-)

StanM, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:21 (three years ago)

The channel is kinda amazing in its own way, with scores of mid-tier toilet circuit indie gigs going back to the shambling era and a sprinkling of larger concerts.

If you want to hear what Milk, Sun Carriage, or The Chesterfields sounded like then this is your channel :)

MaresNest, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 19:41 (three years ago)

omg that channel is all my early-90s London toilet circuit support band nightmares returning to life! He even has a live set by a band I auditioned for once, a tryout which was thankfully a failure.

ban golf courses (Matt #2), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:00 (three years ago)

Well now you have to tell us which band.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:23 (three years ago)

It'd be about the only mention of them on the internet apart from the Youtube set so I'll spare any self-Googling band members the embarrassment.

ban golf courses (Matt #2), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:41 (three years ago)

Clue: it wasn't Lush

ban golf courses (Matt #2), Tuesday, 16 August 2022 20:41 (three years ago)

Gay Dad?

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 17 August 2022 02:20 (three years ago)

ten months pass...

Ron Austin is apparently going to be on this show today at 4 pm BST (although there is a Mixcloud archive by the looks of things) talking about TGM and his new project Mercylane.

www.Madwaspradio.com

MaresNest, Sunday, 18 June 2023 12:21 (two years ago)

Very cool.

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 June 2023 15:13 (two years ago)

one month passes...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZV9jNvekes

MaresNest, Monday, 7 August 2023 15:04 (two years ago)

one year passes...

Holy shit. Vinyl represses for both albums. Rough Trade has them, too

https://www.jpc.de/jpcng/poprock/detail/-/art/the-god-machine-scenes-from-the-second-storey/hnum/12032575

beamish13, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 20:02 (one year ago)

Fascinating. But glad to know there's interest and demand.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 20:07 (one year ago)

I’m still grateful to that £1 CD copy of the second album that sold for £40 on eBay when I was a student, making up the remainder of that month’s rent.

Now I’ll be the best part of £40 for the vinyl reissue.

hamicle, Tuesday, 5 November 2024 20:21 (one year ago)

two months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9aEKLjtirk

Maresn3st, Tuesday, 7 January 2025 12:50 (one year ago)

<3

StanM, Tuesday, 7 January 2025 15:16 (one year ago)

one month passes...

I got my reissues last friday

Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Friday, 7 February 2025 15:19 (one year ago)

How are they sounding? I've been listening to Scenes a lot lately. I have the original CD but would like the vinyl.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Friday, 7 February 2025 21:26 (one year ago)


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