Daft Punk - Human After All

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Who do you want to ignore, Nate?

― Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's a hint: he's only posted to this thread twice.
Here's another hint: He is to Something Awful what C-Man is to Maxim.

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

You seem fixated.

― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm on your Wire-readers-on-crank-board enemies list now; I figure I might as well go for it.

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

On the other hand, arguing with people who develop a fucking enemies list on a fucking internet messageboard is futility personified. Life's to short to run around starting shit with people over this kind of bullshit.

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

what is this "life" you speak of

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, I don't even know what you're arguing with me about. This is a thread about DAFT PUNK. Get a life.

xpost

― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Step 1: I draw up a post positing that I do not like the new Daft Punk album because it sounds like a type of music I do not want/like/expect from Daft Punk
Step 2: Jon calls me gay
Step 3: I make smarmy but comparatively lighthearted retort
Step 4: I am added onto the Noise Idiot enemies list
Step 5: I post that thing about Jon being the C-Man of the Something Awful set
Step 6: WTF, are you 12?

Christ, I could forgive you if you were, I don't know, funny or something.

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

walk away nate, walk away

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Then again, I can't come within 12 feet of ILx without turning into a total spastic. And derailing threads. And making myself look like a thalidomide baby on angel dust. Like I said. Futility.

(xpost: good idea)

― Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I noticed you left out the step where you lurk on the noise board. xpost

― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Go back to your trance CDs.

― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I think only robots should be allowed to post on this thread from now on.

abracadabra

― fe zaffe (fezaffe), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

can someone summarize this thread in two paragraphs for me?

― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"Go back to your trance CDs" is the gist of it

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

A photo of Monica Bellucci with an emphasis on the body part of your choice would validate this thing entirely.

― BARMS, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

MIXMAG has an ace DP article. no really. the one with BEZ on the cover.

― piscesboy, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do people hate on industrial and blorp blapp sounds. You guys are gay... go listen to early 90s trance.
-- green uno skip card (j()nathan.william$@geeMaleDotCom), March 15th, 2005. (later)

haha early 90s trance is pretty good, you might like it.

if you like industrial sounding stuff, you need to hear even better stuff than Human After All, like the Blackstrobe Essential Mix or something.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i listened to this today after a month-long break. i like it again!!

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Amateurist:

OMG new Daft Punk album is TEH SUCK
d00d U R TEH GHEY

rinse, repeat

― daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah thanks for that, that's a really good way you've summed up 1000 posts there. really helpful.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

well, she did forget the most crucial part:

"on/off is ace. best best. makes me cry. more emotional than one more time."

― sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

there's also this heavy slant towards comparing "discovery" and "human after all" and acting like daft punk have been doing nothing in the intervening time.

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

haha early 90s trance is pretty good, you might like it.
WRONG!
if you like industrial sounding stuff, you need to hear even better stuff than Human After All, like the Blackstrobe Essential Mix or something.

-- Ronan (ronan.fitzgerald6NOSPA...) (webmail), March 16th, 2005 12:24 PM. (Ronan) (link)

Don't condescend to me.

― Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

here is some early 90s trance you'll probably like, jon

http://www.irdial.com/catfix.htm

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

actually i think the mp3s are at this mirror: http://irdial.hyperreal.org/

― vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Downloaded the album back when people thought it was a fake and i liked it a lot. Hadn't heard it in a month or so but after all the reviews and the official release I started playing the mp3s again and I still like it.

This is the probably most-played new album for me, I'm really into it. To tell the truth, much moreso than the new Mouse on Mars, which I really didnt like the first time I heard it. Maybe i should put that on as well..

― Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

if you don't like early 90s trance you don't deserve to live

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Are we talking Jam & Spoon "Stella"?

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

JA. PLOOS EIN TECHNOTRANCE, ICHT LICHTEN R&S VS EYE Q

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway -- still a great album. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

DAFT PONG!

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I really like it and have convinced several people to buy it.

― Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

soulwax remix robot rock?

― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Hear it here ("uur 2"). (That's my radio show from last weekend.)

― JoB (JoB), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, thanks JoB. Just hearing it now. Hmmm... I'm not sure that Soulwax's pissing about with it achieves really. The original is this ridiculous monolithic thing that you can either go with or more rationally get bored of within a couple of minutes. This keeps the slamming thing that gets boring to dance to unless you are going totally mental but loses the audacity of the original.

But maybe I'm just not in the mood.

― Alba (Alba), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

What's with DP's mega-compression that makes the bass drum TOTALLY ERADICATE EVERYTHING ELSE IN EXISTENCE for a split-second?

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 19 March 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

DJmag have got five Daft Punk t-shirts to give away. But the t-shirts will go to the people who NEED it most. To win, email a picture of you wearing your worse clothes. The winners will be the ones that look the most cringing. The more unfashionable, the more likely you are to win a t-shirt.

― JoB (JoB), Saturday, 19 March 2005 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is, a lot of people I know like Human After All who didn't care about the first two albums. Can't help it, they did something right, something some of us ILM'ers just don't get.

Stop talking about me. ;-) I think the reason why I never bothered with the music: the cutesy videoclip I saw on MTV. I know it's wrong to dislike a band based on a videoclip. But it's not that I really disliked'em, I just didn't care about their image so didn't bother with the music. All in all I find HAA to be a good album. No more no less. Probably would give it a seven (tops). I don't really like it as a *whole*, I like some elements IMMENSELY. But to hate the album? I can understand, just don't agree at all.

― nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Saturday, 19 March 2005 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I dont think it's hate, if anything that's the crushing dissapointment talking. As unlistenable as some of the songs are (i.e. "Television Rules The Nation") the album is still better than most of the repetitive pop it's trying to imitate.

― modernaire, Saturday, 19 March 2005 19:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually sort of like "Television Rules the Nation", it's probably my 5th favorite track on the album.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Saturday, 19 March 2005 20:46 (twenty-one years ago)

me too, it's easily one of the best tracks on it.

― Ronan (Ronan), Saturday, 19 March 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I like "Television Rules The Nation" too! It just needs a cannon firing like "For Those About to Rock ... We Salute You".

― tipustiger, Saturday, 19 March 2005 20:59 (twenty-one years ago)

It just needs a cannon firing like "For Those About to Rock ... We Salute You".

HA! This is sooo true. :) One of my favourite tracks on the album (probably my inner AC/DC teenage self.)

― Omar (Omar), Saturday, 19 March 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

"I did't care for their image, so I didn't bother with their music."

Did their image not contain the potential to improve your own, or do you see image as a good measure of what an act will sound like?

― jmeister (jmeister), Saturday, 19 March 2005 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

I should've clarified, I like the overall production on the song but it gets beyond annoying when you're about a minute and a half into it and it's like "Ok, where's the rest of the song??". The repetitiveness is executed on this album so bluntly it makes what could be quality tracks boring as fuck, which is why I can't sit through the whole album let alone "Television...."

Maybe it's cause I'm an 80's baby and most of my generation's attention span's are shot, I dunno.

It sucks cause all of the songs start off as really good ideas.

― modernaire, Saturday, 19 March 2005 22:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Why has it taken one Daft Punk album to convert the critical world to the en-masse conclusion that excessive repetition is suddenly a bad thing when there are hundreds of records JUST as repetetive as any track on Human After All that go down a fucking storm on the dancefloor and are just as listenable elsewhere? My theory is that HAA is largely light on the accepted dynamics of uber-repetetive dance music - big builds and breakdowns in other words.

(New and highly dubious theory - DP have done this deliberately and it is some wanky postmodern attempt to make a point over the course album they new full well was going to get loads of critical attention in the aftermath of Discovery. A point *maybe* supported by rumours of another album in the pipeline later this year.)

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 20 March 2005 01:06 (twenty-one years ago)

there are hundreds of records JUST as repetetive as any track on Human After All that go down a fucking storm on the dancefloor and are just as listenable elsewhere?

hmm, can you list a few tho?

i think it's because when considering their profile and the images they like to project, it comes off as more frustrating even contemptible than with more anonymous producers who haven't cultivated such a mystique. i think Daft Punk are exactly like Kraftwerk in this respect - i've always found Kraftwerk hugely frustrating at times because you know they could do more, but they just don't seem interested in doing more, and what they are interested in doing at times is completely uninteresting to me. with DP GuyMan's always seemed the shyer, moodier one and in a way this makes the Crydamoure stuff more 'acceptable', because it's in a more appropriate context on Waves 2 or a live DJ set or just the label's latest 12" following on from the last one. it's the same with much of Bangalter's solo work - in the right contexts it's no problem, but HAA is dressed up and made out to be a big event plus it's got to stand up to the other two albums somehow so you can understand why the frustration occurs with such a limited palette of sounds and ideas on this one, because we know what they COULD do more... (i still like it ok enough btw)

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the "we just churned this out so we can get off Virgin" theory is the most cogent.

I'll probably get this on vinyl when it arrives here, but if I decide to get it on CD, it will likely pop up in the used bins in about, oh, a month or so.

― donut debonair (donut), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:18 (twenty-one years ago)

but HAA is dressed up and made out to be a big event plus it's got to stand up to the other two albums somehow so you can understand why the frustration occurs with such a limited palette of sounds and ideas on this one, because we know what they COULD do more

I want to avoid using terrible "less is more" puns ... but "more" in this case equals "dance music + pop-oriented song structure", because that's what we're used to from DP. And moreso, let's face it, polishing any genre of music into a more pop-tastic sheen is the ideal for many ILM'ers.

However, not everyone hears a minimalist dance track and thinks "they could have put *more* into this record". In a track like "Emotion", I hear a lot of Vainqueur's swirls and G-Man's slowed-down funk, and I can't say that I've ever listened to those artists and wished that their could have done "more" with their music.

― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Sunday, 20 March 2005 23:30 (twenty-one years ago)

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