Rolling 2008 Vinyl Thread

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How's the Bill Quick LP, Ian?

gnarly sceptre, Thursday, 24 July 2008 10:02 (seventeen years ago)

So - anyone care to give a brief synopsis / review of the Boris 'Smile' Vinyl edition - I'm picking up from the rekkid store on Friday and I'm hearing some mixed reviews (sound quality, song order, etc.) ...

BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 24 July 2008 14:35 (seventeen years ago)

i refuse to have any knowledge of boris/southern lord vinyl/cd variations. life might not actually be as short as some people say it is, but it's too short to deal with stuff like that.

just get the diehard version of everything. forever!

scott seward, Thursday, 24 July 2008 14:48 (seventeen years ago)

i've been listening to the gentleman jesse & his men lp for the past week. i think he should have held a couple of those singles back for the album.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 24 July 2008 15:13 (seventeen years ago)

Well said Scott - I've seen on a few boards that the mastering/production varies greatly from the CD and I was more wondering if it was a bad batch or something ...

BlackIronPrison, Thursday, 24 July 2008 16:36 (seventeen years ago)

ah, okay.

when i see these reviews for the new boris and the american version is judged seperately from the japanese version...i don't know what to think. kinda silly somehow.

or maybe i'm still smarting from the time that i fell in love with rza's ghost dog soundtrack only to find out later that the japanese version is WAY WAY Better. (still haven't heard it.)

scott seward, Thursday, 24 July 2008 16:44 (seventeen years ago)

has anyone got any of those fancy 2LP metallica reissues? wondering if they sound super awesome and worth the $$?

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 July 2008 16:47 (seventeen years ago)

Still need "Let's Build a Car."
!!! You can pick up both massive Munster reissues and both Alive comps (all the vinyl that's easily obtainable these days) and STILL not have this fucking essential song. Does some cackling, million-dollar-wanting maniac have the rights to this? WTF?

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:18 (seventeen years ago)

Reposted from elsewhere:

Anyone else notice the MASSIVE decrease in vinyl pressing quality over the past decade or so? Seems to be particularly true of records pressed in Czechoslavakia by tiny labels, but even bigger indies like Sub-Pop suffer for it. Can't tell you how many records I've bought over the past three or four years that have had a big ol' repeating "skrtch" noises running a good way through one or the other side. Sometimes both sides. Nothing but a lazy, half-assed pressing job. Encountered this recently on vinyl from Pissed Jeans, Mudboy, Raionbashi, Woelv and Electric Wizard, among others.

The crap sound quality is especially ironic/galling when the record-object is absurdly fetishized, as with all those inch-thick, crazy colored Pirates Press jobs that (for instance, prime culprits) Southern Lord & Hydra Head put out. If you're gonna spend a ton of money on snazzy/grody packaging, why not try to put a decent-sounding record in there along with it?

In bringing this up, I'm thinking in particular of recent stuff on S-S and Columbus Discount Records, both of whom, like a lot of garage/punk labels, go for relatively restrained (dirt-cheap) packaging. I understand that $$$ is tight and that audiophile fidelity is anathema to that crowd, but some of the vinyl they put out is so shitty sounding as to be nearly unlistenable. Hate to have to buy CDs versions of LPs I already own just to hear the fucking music...

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:30 (seventeen years ago)

yeah i my blonde redhead vinyl of the last one isn't great.

Matador does good stuff that "HQ" vinyl or whatever gimmick, but it sounds good.

Mad props 2 Sundazed! Their regular non-nerd-boner-180 gram stuff sounds better than some deluxe stuff.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:33 (seventeen years ago)

man Pirates Press seem like the only reliable ones one there as far as I know!!

J0hn D., Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:40 (seventeen years ago)

the mission of burma reissue pressings were so great they almost made me shed a tear ;_;

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:41 (seventeen years ago)

Pirates Press seem like the only reliable ones
Okay, I was unkind to PP. Their straight up black vinyl pressings sound fine, and if you absolutely HAVE to buy record on silver/gold starburst splatter with pink dots, theirs is probably gonna sound better than anyone else's. Which is not to say good...

Matt OTM, too, in that some folks are definitely still doing it right. And those Metallica on 45 reissues are phenomenal.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:47 (seventeen years ago)

dude at work just bought a Mobile Fidelity Labs pressing of Plastic One Band...it was $25 bucks but WOW, i'd never heard any records pressed by them. goddamn it was like hearing the record for the first time compared to my old copy.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:50 (seventeen years ago)

merge's stuff is really hit and miss...

i get really suspicious when i see all these major label albums now that are doing like "limited edition" vinyl pressings of stuff.....like the whole Portishead Third scandal where every damn copy was terribly warped...that pissed me off.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:51 (seventeen years ago)

obsession (bully comp)
and now just the girls vol 2 (sftri comp)
grand funk - all the girls in the world beware
stevie nicks - bella donna
donovan - that one with the jeff beck group....barabaja something
roxy music - s/t
slim harpo - best of

omar little, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:52 (seventeen years ago)

donovan - that one with the jeff beck group....barabaja something

woah how's that?? never heard of it...love JBG stuff overall.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:53 (seventeen years ago)

Okay, I was unkind to PP. Their straight up black vinyl pressings sound fine, and if you absolutely HAVE to buy record on silver/gold starburst splatter with pink dots, theirs is probably gonna sound better than anyone else's. Which is not to say good...

every mastering engineer I've ever talked to has said that the idea that colored vinyl sounds worse than black vinyl is a falsehood - and the Pirates Press gold pressings of the Order From Chaos records are among the best-sounding vinyl I've ever heard. I'd be pretty surprised if anybody could a/b colored vs. black vinyl.

J0hn D., Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:55 (seventeen years ago)

i love it! picked it up for $1 : O

omar little, Thursday, 24 July 2008 17:56 (seventeen years ago)

sweet...beck-ola is a jam. i pretty much love everything rod stewart did before the late 70s

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 July 2008 18:04 (seventeen years ago)

Nobunny - Blood Visions (current favorite record)
Pere Ubu - 390 Degrees of Simulated Stereo
TONS of 45s
Didjits - Backstage Passout
Metallica - Master of Puppets 2x45
Vreid - I Krig
Leviathan - Massive Conspiracy Against All Life
Lost Sounds - Black Wave & Rats Brains and Microchips
Eat Skull - Sick to Death

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 18:07 (seventeen years ago)

Nobunny - Blood Visions (current favorite record)

you either mean jay reatard or you mean love visions, don't you?

chicago kevin, Thursday, 24 July 2008 18:10 (seventeen years ago)

every mastering engineer I've ever talked to has said that the idea that colored vinyl sounds worse than black vinyl is a falsehood - and the Pirates Press gold pressings of the Order From Chaos records are among the best-sounding vinyl I've ever heard. I'd be pretty surprised if anybody could a/b colored vs. black vinyl.
Maybe I'm talking out my ass here, 'cuz I'm not a mastering engineer, but I've been buying LPs for decades now, and the very limited sample of my own experience has taught me a few things. One of those things is "be VERY wary of opaque vinyl". Silver, white, solid pink, etc. Not to say they can't sound fantastic ... just that they often sound like shit. I can't speak to the Order from Chaos LP yr. talking about, and I certainly couldn't blind differentiate black from colored with any accuracy (lots of black pressings sound shitty, too), but super-fancy multicolored vinyl is a crapshoot at best. I just haven't had good luck there.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 18:14 (seventeen years ago)

Opaque vinyl that ain't black, that is...

But no, I don't mean Jay Reatard. I mean Nobunny! Garage punk one-man-band guy who wears a bunny mask. His record is called Love Visions, it's on Bubbledumb (who put out the good Trashies LP), and it rules rules rules rules rules. Fun, stupid, catchy punk pop with rinky-dink guitars and toy synths and glockenspeils and stuff. Songs about girls. I can't stop listening to it.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 18:18 (seventeen years ago)

i know nobunny, he's a friend of mine, he lived in chicago for years. and i know it's called love visions but that's not what you put up there originally that's why i asked for clarification.

"i know i know" and "i am a girlfriend" are my favorites on there.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 24 July 2008 18:34 (seventeen years ago)

Oh shit, yr right! I did put "Blood Visions"! Fuckin duh. Stupid me. Anyway, I meant Love Visions, but you know that by now. I am a Girlfriend is the standout, but it's got lots of great tunes: Nobunny Loves You, Chuck Berry Holiday, Boneyard, etc.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, that whole first side is one of the best album sides of the year for me. fucking love it. where are you located contenderizer? did you catch him with the okmoniks?

chicago kevin, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:07 (seventeen years ago)

i tried to get the latest jay reatard 7" but the matador site crashed and apparently amoeba doesn't know what the hell i'm talking about when i ask about it.

omar little, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

probably already all sold out and up on ebay at this point

omar little, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:08 (seventeen years ago)

omar, matador fucked up so badly that i *think* they pulled some of the records set aside for the distribution channel for online customers that they screwed over. but i would imagine amoeba would still be getting some.

and contenderizer, bumbledumb will be putting out the eric & the happy thoughts 7" soon. if you dig nobunny you'll probably like this. ex-romance novels, great buddy hollyish simple-pop stuff.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:10 (seventeen years ago)

I'm in Seattle, CK, and I haven't seen Nobunny live. Don't think the Okmoniks tour made it this far west. Been told the his show puts the record to shame, though that's a little hard to believe. I love live music and all, but the record holds up just fine on its own.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:16 (seventeen years ago)

I'm a bit confused about the latest Reatard/Deerhoof 45 myself. Talked to Reuben at Sonic Boom (local record store that specializes in this kind of stuff), and he said Matador said that they will get some, but that it'll be a few weeks. Mysterious.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:18 (seventeen years ago)

yeah, they did a midwest/east coast swing this time as they are from the southwest. speaking of seattle, dutchess & the duke SLAYED here last weekend. can't wait to get my record back from the place where i left it.

nobunny video.

chicago kevin, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:20 (seventeen years ago)

that 7" was supposed to have been released on tuesday, right? already a bunch have been sold on ebay, 4 alone by a guy named "adamtschwartz", who apparently got really lucky or has a good connection, considering only 1 per customer was the rule.

omar little, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:22 (seventeen years ago)

today's vinyl haul, possibly nsfw (one sleeve has cartoon boobies): http://www.flickr.com/photos/primeau/2699463832

J0hn D., Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:22 (seventeen years ago)

what is that mercyful fate like a bootleg or something?

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:24 (seventeen years ago)

sweet! looks like $$$$$$$

scott seward, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:28 (seventeen years ago)

"Garage punk one-man-band guy who wears a bunny mask"

there was a guy in philly who did this years ago. except i think he called himself hoppy the rabbit. sweet guy. he also had a rad band called dyke. a trio of guys in drag who did new wave lesbian empowerment anthems. and ONE DAY I SWEAR i will transfer his fucking GENIUS *for record collectors only* tape that he made. so hilarious. i will do it soon. promise.

scott seward, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:31 (seventeen years ago)

there used to be a band in minneapolis called John Updyke Lick Pussy, never forgot that name.

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:32 (seventeen years ago)

yeah M@tt in re: the MF record, that's "Copenhagen After Midngiht," Live at Odd Fellow Palazeet, Copenhagen DK October 5th 1982 - I think it's like their 2nd show or something. Beautiful Chaney still from the lost film London After Midnight on front of picture disc. Ltd. to 328 copies of which mine is #278. You can see that I was pretty much helpless before something like this.

The others are the amazing Anal Vomit album Depravation, a Death boot (Scream Bloody Gore sessions), Book of Black Earth, Ares Kingdom, a Cirith Gorgor/Mor Dagor split 7" & an Isolation/Sleeping Village split 7".

J0hn D., Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:33 (seventeen years ago)

and yeah scott I have kinda been goin "MUST HAVE MORE VINYL" about once a month ever since I got that Rega P-1. Having a good turntable is something I put off so long that I forgot how badly I wanted one all my teenage years and I am kinda making up for lost time. Some dudes gotta get a sports car, I'm buying ltd.-ed Mercyful Fate boots & lovin' it

J0hn D., Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:34 (seventeen years ago)

Second CK on the Dutchess and the Duke. My favorite summertime pop record of the year (so far). It's weird, around '04 I was getting all bored and bitchy/depressed about the state of rock music, but the last couple years have been almost overloaded with the goods.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

re: bad pressings: i just think a lot of people are putting out vinyl who haven't put out vinyl in years/put it out in big quantities/ever put it out. and you are gonna see more imperfect pressings/fuck ups/etc. just like in the old days when everyone put records out! hey, i didn't think twice about bringing my warped argent record or whatever back to the local record world when i was a lad. it happened quite a bit. only problem now is people don't/won't take stuff back from stores like they used to. or at least that's what i hear. so stores are stuck with a dozen warped portishead records.

scott seward, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:36 (seventeen years ago)

Why did I say "Deerhoof"? Deerhunter. Deerhunter. It's all those can hits coming back to haunt me.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:37 (seventeen years ago)

and yeah scott I have kinda been goin "MUST HAVE MORE VINYL" about once a month ever since I got that Rega P-1

yeah i've gotten a real problem in the last year...like i buy so much shit now...i have hella awesome records i've barely listened it.

and i went to the store yesterday and saw the new metallica shit, 13th floor elevators reissue, all this stuff i'm broke so i had to leave asap

M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:38 (seventeen years ago)

scott OTM, I have having something pressed privately soon and I'm nervous as fuck about it!

J0hn D., Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:41 (seventeen years ago)

Second CK on the Dutchess and the Duke. My favorite summertime pop record of the year (so far).

i'd only heard the single and was waiting for them to get to town before picking up the lp. i saw unnatural helpers down in austin in march, they were good. i've been pining for the fe fi fo fums to come here forever but that will probably never happen, ;_;

chicago kevin, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:42 (seventeen years ago)

scott OTM, I have having something pressed privately soon and I'm nervous as fuck about it!

-- J0hn D.

o_O

omar little, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:45 (seventeen years ago)

Scott: I wonder, too, if the bigger pressing plants who used to get most of their business from major labels (and then from big indies back in vinyl's dying days) have gone out of business. And the folks who've jumped in to fill the gaps, as hard as they try and no matter how good their intentions, just don't always have the top-flite gear and deep technical know-how to really do it right. I mean, I listen to floppy old Prince 45's from the early 80s, so thin they're practically flexidiscs, records have probably been played 100 times, and they STILL sound a 100 times better than most (not all) new vinyl I buy nowadays. I think Silver could have sounded better, and maybe it's dumb/sheeplike to blame the cool silver vinyl, but, you know, gotta blame something. Nor did those crazy ugly VCacoon represses knock me out, soundwise.

contenderizer, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:47 (seventeen years ago)

a lot of pressing places have gone out of business. and you figure all the old timer people who knew how to do that kind of work went with them. but, you figure, where there is a need...

and someone is putting out all this new vinyl! i'm no expert. i'd like to hear how easy/hard it is to put out decent quality vinyl these days.

scott seward, Thursday, 24 July 2008 19:53 (seventeen years ago)


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