― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
it only goes up to 97. [when is 98, 99, 00, 01, 02 going to be documented?]
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:14 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:17 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
Right, I see you must be too busy with ILM and other music forums, these days Geir?
Re: Embrace: Their songs simply aren't good enough.
[Correct.]
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
oh, i can't resist
geir what do you think of harmolodics?
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:32 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
― schnell schnell, Monday, 3 March 2003 17:41 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
1959: Buddy Holly: It Doesn't Matter Anymore1960: The Shadows: Apache1961: Del Shannon: Hats Off To Larry1962: The Beatles: PS I Love You1963: The Beatles: From Me To You1964: The Beatles: I Should Have Known Better1965: Beach Boys: California Girls1966: Beach Boys: God Only Knows1967: The Beatles: Strawberry Fields Forever1968: The Zombies: A Rose For Emily1969: The Turtles: You Showed Me1970: Beach Boys: At My Window1971: Beach Boys: Till I Die1972: Genesis: Supper's Ready1973: Genesis: Firth Of Fifth1974: Supertramp: Hide In Your Shell1975: Queen: Bohemian Rhapsody1976: Genesis: Mad Man Moon1977: ELO: Wild West Hero1978: Genesis: Burning Rope1979: 20/20: Yellow Pills1980: Japan: Gentlemen Take Polaroids1981: Japan: Ghosts1982: Spongetones: She Goes Out With Everybody1983: Depeche Mode: The Landscape Is Changing1984: Depeche Mode: Blasphemous Rumours1985: Dire Straits: Your Latest Trick1986: Depeche Mode: Black Celebration1987: Dukes Of Stratosphear: Collideascope1988: Crowded House: Better Be Home Soon1989: Paul McCartney: My Brave Face1990: Prefab Sprout: Jesse James1991: Crowded House: Four Seasons In One Day1992: The Cure: Friday I'm In Love1993: Crowded House: Fingers Of Love1994: Dodgy: Staying Out For The Summer1995: Blur: Country House1996: Ocean Colour Scene: The Day We Caught The Train1997: Radiohead: Exit Music (For Films)1998: Catatonia: Road Rage1999: Cotton Mather: Camp Hill Rail Operator2000: a-ha: Minor Earth Major Sky2001: Electric Soft Parade: Silent To The Dark2002: Doves: There Goes The Fear
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
Beluister muziek fragment met RealPlayer G2 0'21" --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
In "The Phare of Biarritz" heb ik deze akkoordengroep toegepast. In het volgende voorbeeld zijn de overmatige drieklanken uit de vierklanken geïsoleerd. Een andere manier om tot vierklanken te komen is de stuurtonen te maken tot toongroepen. De stuurgroepen bestaan namelijk uit 4 tonen. Een voorbeeld: Uur XI wordt gestuurd door uur VI. Als uur XI bestaat uit de akkoorden E mineur Fis mineur Gis majeur Ais majeur dan is de stuurgroep: E Fis Gis Ais. Neem je hiervan de eerste omkering, dan ontstaat er een Fis79 accoord zonder kwint. De hele groep van complementaire vierklanken, die weer af te leiden is van het zesde uur is: De twaalfde uur variatie is te horen in de alt-solo en de bas-solo van "2soon2die"; de elfde uur variatie in de bas-solo van "Onweer", en de C-melody-saxsolo in dezelfde compositie is gebaseerd op de zesde uur variatie. Beide composities zijn te vinden op de CD "Ear Opener" van het Theo Hoogstins Octet. Dit zijn slechts enkele voorbeelden van toepassingen van de toonklok. De mogelijkheden zijn vrijwel onbeperkt, denk maar aan transpositie van harmonieën, toepassingen in lintharmonisaties waarbij het mogelijk is twee linten die op verschillende uren zijn gebaseerd gezamenlijk te laten klinken. Ook als analysemodel is de toonklok al zeer waardevol gebleken, bijvoorbeeld in het artikel uit Entre’Act van Andre Douw. Concluderend kan worden gesteld dat de ordening van tonen, zoals weergegeven in de toonklok, kan leiden tot een andere kijk op zowel componeren als improviseren. Het is een allesomvattend systeem voor harmonie in de chromatische toonladder, dat een componist in staat stelt het hele scala van klankkleuren te overzien en op een consistente manier toe te passen. Het kost misschien enige tijd en studie om een dergelijke manier van werken onder de knie te krijgen, maar het is zeker de moeite waard voor musici die op zoek zijn naar nieuwe klankstructuren. Dat de beschreven klanken thuis horen in het jazzidioom blijkt wel uit de kop van de recensie van Frans van Leeuwen: "Hoogstins klinkt jazzy en vertrouwd" (NRC, 7/10/92).
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:48 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
Harmolodics? I doubt Geir has even heard of Ornette or anyone else who practices it.
― Jazzbo (jmcgaw), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 3 March 2003 17:54 (twenty-one years ago) link
Obv. you have a very limited range of music that you enjoy and a very limited definition of what music can be and what moods it can create. Can't you just own up to this (there's nothing wrong w/it, per se) rather than dismiss all music that doesn't fit your narrow expectations? This is I Love MUSIC, afterall, not I Love All That is Beatlesque.
― oops (Oops), Monday, 3 March 2003 18:02 (twenty-one years ago) link
― schnell schnell, Monday, 3 March 2003 18:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
1977 David Bowie, Low1978 P.I.L., Public image1979 Chic, Risque1980 Prince, Dirty mind1981 Human League, Dare (hehe, I love this now!)1982 ABC, The lexicon of love1983 Aztec Camera, High land hard rain1984 The Smiths, Hatful of hollow1985 Scritti Politti, Cupid and psyche 851986 Slayer, Reign in blood1987 Sonic Youth, Sister1988 AR Kane, 691989 New Order, Technique1990 Ice Cube, Amerikkka's most wanted1991 Nirvana, Nevermind1992 Pavement, Slanted and enchanted1993 Nirvana, In utero1994 Notorious BIG, Ready to die1995 Fatboy Slim, Better living through chemistry1996 Tortoise-Millions now living will never die1997 Chemical Brothers, Dig your own hole1998 Mercury Rev, Deserters songs1999 Wilco, Summerteeth2000 Radiohead, Kid A2001 Daft Punk, Discovery2002 The Streets-Original pirate material\Sonic Youth-Murray Street
― Michael B, Monday, 3 March 2003 19:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 3 March 2003 19:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Andy K (Andy K), Monday, 3 March 2003 23:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
I am content to not follow where others lead.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 March 2003 23:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
The R.E.M albums are there by default, I don't listen to 80s music much.
Like all my lists, this is totally arbitrary, and if I re-createdit tommorow it would be completely different.
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
1976 Squeeze _How Dare You_
with
1976 10cc _How Dare You_
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:07 (twenty-one years ago) link
* which is also SQUIRREL's favorite 1979 album! (But not mine. Tossup between, I dunno, *Live at the Witch Trials, *Head Games, *Bad Girls, *A Tonic for the Troops, *Strange Spirits, *Cuba, *Cory and Me, *Get the Knack, *Off the Wall, and oh yeah, the American version of *The Clash if that counts......Best year EVER, maybe??? No argument here.)
― chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:25 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:29 (twenty-one years ago) link
Squirrel Police has pretty good taste in the mid-to-late '70s.
James Blount on the other hand, is a really smart EARLY '70s guy.
Neudonym was very courageous (and right as well) in not replacing Thin Lizzy in 1976 with Stevie Wonder.
Andy K's, Michael B's, Jody Beth Rosen's and Michaelangelo's album tastes all start out truly great, then go way downhill from there (with occasional obvious exceptions).
All of this probably says more about me than about any of them.
― chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:53 (twenty-one years ago) link
Not likely. Everything he does screams "I AM TROLL, HEAR ME ROAR". From the dismissal of entire genres (and the threads crossposted into the newsgroups following them) and declarations like "Long live real music played by real people," it comes down to the old "if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, its probably a duck" adage.
Just that he's a troll, not a duck. You know. and stuff.
As for the website, its a "ready made" reference that he can point at to "prove" his point. Kinda like when a christian fundie references some Baptist site or what have you.
- Alan
― Alan Conceicao, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 00:57 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
Ooops! I meant 1960 and 1961, sorry. (In fact, anybody who doesn't believe that Geir loves black music should explain why the Roots are just now ripping off his favorite 1960 single in "Thought @ Work.") (Okay, ripping off the Incredible Bongo Band's and Sugarhill Gang's COVER versions of his favorite 1960 single. But you get the point.)
― chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
Also, who is the 1979 album "Cuba" by? I can't find it on AMG.
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
1992 - The Prodigy - Experience1993 - the Boo Radleys - Giant Steps1994 - Blur - Parklife1995 - Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do1996 - Boo Radleys - Come On Kids1997 - Radiohead - OK Computer1998 - Beastie Boys - Hello Nasty1999 - Plaid - Restproof Clockwork2000 - Two Lone Swordsmen - Tiny Reminders (very tough one that!)2001 - Air - 10,000hz the Legend2002 - Arcturus - The Sham Mirrors
is that fair enough?
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:36 (twenty-one years ago) link
1965: Bob Dylan, Highway 61 Revisited; The Beatles, "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away"1966: The Beach Boys, Pet Sounds; Sam & Dave, "Hold On, I'm Comin'"1967: The Jimi Hendrix Experience, Are You Experienced; Captain Beefheart and his Magic Band, "Electricity"1968: The Zombies, Odessey & Oracle; Marvin Gaye and Tammi Terrell, "Ain't Nothing Like the Real Thing"1969: Sly and the Family Stone, "Stand!"; The Isley Brothers, "It's Your Thing"1970: The Stooges, Fun House; James Brown, "Super Bad Pts 1 and 2"1971: Funkadelic, Maggot Brain; The Rolling Stones, "Dead Flowers"1972: Curtis Mayfield, Superfly; Steely Dan, "Do It Again"1973: Pink Floyd, The Dark Side of the Moon; Jimmy Cliff, "Many Rivers to Cross"*1974: The Sweet, Desolation Boulevard; Stevie Wonder, "Livin' For the City"1975: The Patti Smith Group, Horses; Bruce Springsteen, "Born To Run"1976: Ramones; The Bee Gees, "You Should Be Dancing"1977: Television, Marquee Moon; The Adverts, "Gary Gilmore's Eyes"1978: Kraftwerk, The Man-Machine; Radio Birdman. "Non-Stop Girls"1979: The Clash, London Calling; Van Halen, "Dance the Night Away"1980: X, Los Angeles; The Soft Boys, "I Wanna Destroy You"1981: The Police, Ghost in the Machine; The Specials, Ghost Town**1982: Michael Jackson, Thriller; Afrika Bambaataa and the Soulsonic Force, "Planet Rock"1983: The Replacements, Hootenanny; ESG, "Moody (Spaced Out)"1984: Prince, Purple Rain; Husker Du, "Standing By the Sea"1985: Tom Waits, Rain Dogs; LL Cool J, "Rock the Bells"1986: RUN-D.M.C., Raising Hell; Pet Shop Boys, "West End Girls"1987: Boogie Down Productions, Criminal Minded; Meat Beat Manifesto, "Cutman"1988: Public Enemy, It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back; Eric B & Rakim, "Follow the Leader"1989: The Beastie Boys, Paul's Boutique; Jungle Brothers, "What 'U' Waitin' 4?"1990: Mudhoney, Superfuzz Bigmuff/Early Singles***; Main Source, "Looking At the Front Door"1991: De La Soul is Dead; Nirvana, "Smells Like Teen Spirit"1992: Sonic Youth, Dirty; The Pharcyde, "Passin' Me By"1993: Enter the Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers; Souls of Mischief, "'93 'Til Infinity"1994: Beck, Mellow Gold; Bikini Kill, "Rebel Girl"****1995: Elastica; Garbage, "Stupid Girl"1996: DJ Shadow, Entroducing; Ghostface Killah, "Daytona 500"1997: Chemical Brothers, Dig Your Own Hole; Busta Rhymes, "Put Your Hands Where My Eyes Could See"1998: Massive Attack, Mezzanine; The Coup, "Me and Jesus the Pimp in a '79 Granada Last Night"1999: Prodigy Present the Dirtchamber Sessions Vol. 1*****; Eminem, "Any Man"2000: Outkast, Stankonia; Broadcast, "Come On Let's Go"2001: The Avalanches, Since I Left You; El-P, "Stepfather Factory"2002: Clinic, Walking With Thee; The Rapture, "House of Jealous Lovers"
*I'm not sure if this is '72 or '73. Please don't make me choose between this song and Steely Dan's finest moment, OK?**I swear this is a coincidence.***Yes, this is a reissue of stuff from the late '80s. I don't care. I CHEAT TO WIN****Wasn't this released every single year in the mid '90s?*****Yes, a mix CD. It's my list, sucka.
And if it's any consolation to Chuck, Journey's "Don't Stop Believin'" almost made it for '81.
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:39 (twenty-one years ago) link
No, Alan. No. Trust me. He's no troll. He's just Geir.
Geir as weekly columnist for the Village Voice = quite possibly the most insane (therefore fantastic) move that could happen. Sign him up, Mr. Eddy. :-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
I meant "Yellow Pills." Which Geir got right, and I didn't. Sorry, Ned -- the guy is just way too *smart* for the Voice music section. He would just make everybody else look lame in comparison, y'know?
― chuck, Tuesday, 4 March 2003 01:56 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 02:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 02:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 4 March 2003 02:24 (twenty-one years ago) link