I'll bet metal and dance folks won't find much in the AV Club list either.
I voted for a few dance albums but I'll be devoting my January AVC electronic column to a Best of '09 list, and I'm pretty certain Leonard Pierce's Metal Box column will run a year-end list this month.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 08:19 (sixteen years ago)
And yeah I know what you're saying about consensus, etc., but those things will actually be dealt with there.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 08:20 (sixteen years ago)
Is there a link to the Mixmag singles/tracks list? Always like reading those.
― if I don't see more dissent, I'm going to have to check myself in (Matos W.K.), Thursday, 10 December 2009 08:37 (sixteen years ago)
not yet, maybe soon: Mixmag Listshttp://www.rocklistmusic.co.uk/mixmag.html
― djmartian, Thursday, 10 December 2009 10:32 (sixteen years ago)
new issue of Mixmag on sale today in the UKhttp://twitter.com/Mixmag/statuses/6527494364
details:http://www.mixmag.net/content/subscribe-mixmagFree with this month’s issue is Diplo's 2009 Rewind CD looking back at all the biggest tracks of the year including those by Major Lazer, La Roux vs Skream, Boys Noize, The Prodigy, Chase & Status, Fake Blood, Erol Alkan, Laidback Luke, Felix Da Housecat and many more.
― djmartian, Thursday, 10 December 2009 10:35 (sixteen years ago)
wondering if mixmag will plump for waves or death suite
― Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 10 December 2009 10:39 (sixteen years ago)
That La Roux/Skream remix feels like it was the biggest track of the year, so I'd be surprised if Mixmag didn't vote it number one.
― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 December 2009 10:39 (sixteen years ago)
back to the USA...
Stereogum Best 50 Albums of 2009http://stereogum.com/gummys/2009/best-album-2009.html
summary via:http://countmeoutblog.blogspot.com/2009/12/stereogums-top-50-albums-of-2009-gummy.html
50. Antony And The Johnsons - The Crying Light [Secretly Canadian]49. Mos Def - The Ecstatic [Downtown]48. Silversun Pickups - Swoon [Dangerbird]47. jj - n° 2 [Sincerely Yours]46. Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx... Pt. II [Loud/RCA/BMG]45. Regina Spektor - Far [Sire]44. The Rural Alberta Advantage - Hometowns [Saddle Creek]43. Mastodon - Crack The Skye [Reprise]42. The Dead Weather - Horehound [Third Man]41. Them Crooked Vultures - Them Crooked Vultures [DGC/Interscope]40. Neon Indian - Psychic Chasms [Lefse]39. Brand New - Daisy [Interscope]38. Bill Callahan - Sometimes I Wish We Were An Eagle [Drag City]37. Cymbals Eat Guitars - Why There Are Mountains [Self-Released]36. The Horrors - Primary Colours [XL]35. Tegan And Sara - Sainthood [Vapor]34. Fuck Buttons - Tarot Sport [ATP]33. Florence & The Machine - Lungs [Island]32. Dinosaur Jr. - Farm [Jagjaguwar]31. The Mountain Goats - The Life Of The World To Come [4AD]30. Dan Deacon - Bromst [Carpark]29. Camera Obscura - My Maudlin Career [4AD]28. Wild Beasts - Two Dancers [Domino]27. Julian Casablancas - Phrazes For The Young [Cult/RCA]26. Metric - Fantasies [Metric Music International]25. Andrew Bird - Noble Beast [Fat Possum]24. Arctic Monkeys - Humbug [Domino]23. Monsters Of Folk - Monsters Of Folk [Shangri-La]22. The Avett Brothers - I And Love And You [Sony]21. Japandroids - Post-Nothing [Polyvinyl]20. The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart - The Pains Of Being Pure At Heart [Slumberland]19. Atlas Sound - Logos [Kranky]18. Wilco - Wilco (The Album) [Nonesuch]17. Various Artists - Dark Was The Night [4AD]16. The Decemberists - The Hazards Of Love [Capitol]15. Bat For Lashes - Two Suns [Astralwerks]14. Fever Ray - Fever Ray [Mute]13. Sunset Rubdown - Dragonslayer [Jagjaguwar]12. St. Vincent - Actor [4AD]11. The Flaming Lips - Embryonic [Warner Bros.]10. Neko Case - Middle Cyclone [Anti-]09. Passion Pit - Manners [Frenchkiss]08. The Antlers - Hospice [Frenchkiss]07. Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz [Interscope]06. Girls - Album [True Panther]05. The XX - XX [Young Turks/XL]04. Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix [Glassnote]03. Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca [Domino]02. Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest [Warp]01. Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion [Domino]
― djmartian, Thursday, 10 December 2009 10:59 (sixteen years ago)
those are voted on by readers iirc
― my adrian langs a ton (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:34 (sixteen years ago)
How many lists are gonna be fuckin AnCo, Grizzly Bear, Dirty Pro and Phoenix in different orders?
― my adrian langs a ton (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:35 (sixteen years ago)
it's like, are they even aware of other virtually identical lists? does it not make them think to try and make them different? so much for the idea of the death of consenus in critical circles
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:48 (sixteen years ago)
as Whiney G. Weingarten clarified that Stereogum list is from the Readers, so it's just an aggregated popularity snapshot
― djmartian, Thursday, 10 December 2009 13:53 (sixteen years ago)
SPIN's 40 Best Albums Of 2009
40 Kiss - Sonic Boom39 Wilco - Wilco (Wilco The Album38 Rick Ross - Deeper Than Rap37 Gallows - Grey Britain36 Brakesbrakesbrakes - Touchdown35 Miike Snow - Miike Snow34 Mariachi El Bronx - Mariachi El Bronx33 The Avett Brothers - I And Love And You32 U2 - No Line On The Horizon31 Dirty Projectors - Bitte Orca30 Julian Casablancas - Phrazes For The Young29 Them Crooked Vultures - Them Crooked Vultures28 The Flaming Lips - Embryonic27 Jarvis Cocker - Further Complications26 The Mountain Goats - The Life Of The World To Come25 The Big Pink - A Brief History Of Love24 Wolfmother - Cosmic Egg23 St. Vincent - Actor22 Tegan And Sara - Sainthood21 Raekwon - Only Built 4 Cuban Linx Pt. II20 Paramore - Brand New Eyes19 Lily Allen - It's Not Me, It's You18 Antony And The Johnsons - The Crying Light17 Mastodon - Crack The Skye16 Japandroids - Post-Nothing15 Neko Case - Middle Cyclone14 Amadou & Mariam - Welcome To Mali13 Jay Reatard - Watch Me Fall12 Ida Maria - Fortress Round My Heart11 Miles Benjamin Anthony Robinson - Summer Of Fear10 The Dead Weather - Horehound09 Drake - So Far Gone08 Florence And The Machine - Lungs07 Mos Def - The Ecstatic06 Bat For Lashes - Two Suns05 Girls - Album04 Grizzly Bear - Veckatimest03 Phoenix - Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix02 Yeah Yeah Yeahs - It's Blitz!01 Animal Collective - Merriweather Post Pavilion
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:15 (sixteen years ago)
can't stands no more
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:18 (sixteen years ago)
It's like every magazine is competing to see who can be the most boring.
― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)
why laughed at Spin yesterday, it's 2009 and they list Wolfmother, U2, Kiss
― djmartian, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:19 (sixteen years ago)
even their token afro pop was from 08
― mdskltr (blueski), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:21 (sixteen years ago)
re: It's like every magazine is competing to see who can be the most boring.
Q magazine set the benchmark for this in 2009
― djmartian, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:21 (sixteen years ago)
Would rather hear that Kiss album than the Grizzly Projectors Collective tbh.
― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:23 (sixteen years ago)
Whatever else, KISS making a top albums list is not boring.
― Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:23 (sixteen years ago)
it really just makes me wonder how awful and tedious the other albums are that folks must be listening to in order make those albums their "best"
― Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:29 (sixteen years ago)
there should probably be some commas in that last post
here they are now:
,,,
― Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:30 (sixteen years ago)
Haha. Yeah, I was going to ask "This isn't the same KISS that did . . . Beth, is it?" And so it is.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:36 (sixteen years ago)
that kiss album is fucking dogshit on the real, peace
― my adrian langs a ton (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:38 (sixteen years ago)
I'll download it if they've gone back to wearing the make-up and costumes.
― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:39 (sixteen years ago)
only for the last 13 years...
― m the g, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:51 (sixteen years ago)
ancorp rec even snuck into the FACT list
― cozwn, Thursday, 10 December 2009 14:59 (sixteen years ago)
FILTER STAFF TOP 10 OF 2009
1. Animal Collective, Merriweather Post Pavilion (Domino)2. Phoenix, Wolfgang Amadeus Phoenix (Glassnote)3. Grizzly Bear, Veckatimest (Warp)4. Miike Snow, Miike Snow (Downtown)5. Yeah Yeah Yeahs, It's Blitz! (Interscope)6. Elvis Perkins in Dearland, Elvis Perkins in Dearland (XL)7. Cass McCombs, Catacombs (Domino)8. Passion Pit, Manners (Frenchkiss)9. The Antlers, Hospice (Frenchkiss)10. White Rabbits, It's Frightening (TBD)
Honorable Mention:Dirty Projectors, Bitte Orca (Domino)Little Dragon, Machine Dreams (Peacefrog)The xx, xx (XL)
Staff Lists: http://filtermagazine.com/index.php/news/entry/filters_top_10_albums_of_2009
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:00 (sixteen years ago)
one of these sites should just preempt all of this and just post a link to pitchfork.com for their year end list
― k3vin k., Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:34 (sixteen years ago)
#1 -animalcollectiveyeahyeahyeahdirtyprojectorsgrizzlybearphoenix#12 - token rnb/hiphop album
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:37 (sixteen years ago)
when this is the ilx list as well, i will be the one laughing/weeping/telling everyone to fuck off
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:38 (sixteen years ago)
let's not make it the ilx list then. this is in our hands.
― lex pretend, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:40 (sixteen years ago)
will listen to the dirty projectors album because i haven't yet. it might be good! who knows eh
lex, i would be delighted if it wasn't.
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:41 (sixteen years ago)
we should do something like the alternate 70s poll, best albums of the year that haven't been on any year-end lists by any major magazines/sites
― some dude, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:43 (sixteen years ago)
that would be sweet
― k3vin k., Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:43 (sixteen years ago)
I sort of expect to like Dirty Projectors when I finally get around to hearing it. Have no intention of going anywhere near animalyeahgrizzlyphoenix
― vadnais heights is cougartown (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:51 (sixteen years ago)
From what I've gathered, animalyeahgrizzlyphoenix is exceptionally, mind-alteringly dull, although granted I've not heard much grizzly or any phoenix
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:57 (sixteen years ago)
Wow, you can dismiss albums without even hearing them, impressive.
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 December 2009 19:59 (sixteen years ago)
OK, maybe that Phoenix album is awesome! I'll know by the time the evening is out, hopefully.
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)
TheEddiebx it really isn't a genre becuase u cant go to a record label and say, "what artist do u have in your indie division?" that would be a lil oxymoronic, rite. and if there is any plcae that u can look up independent artist, it wouldn't necessarily bring up just rock. there was a radio station here in L.A. that was called indie 103.1. they played anything from independent rock to indie hip-hop, indie bluegrass, and electronica. u tell me what kinda genre that is
OtakoustI can agree with you that it is and it isn't. It isn't in the sense that certain bands on major labels have the Indie rock sound. Which was the crux of my argument. You and a lot of other people get stuck on the term indie because it is short for independent and I understand that. What I am trying to explain is that over the past 30 years, indie rock has transformed into a sound. This is regardless of whether they are on a independent or major label.
retropancakeful I shall explain why some 'music appreciators' doesnt like indie music to go into mainstream.First,there is no fixed definition of Indie which is similar to Emo.When good music goes to mainstream, it will be raped countlessly with people who just blindly follow whats in and not and people spamming "lolz!1!! phoenix 4 lif3!". The song will lose it's magic and therefore will be labled at Pop or someother shit. I like it when smart people listen to good music but not some fucked morons. Fuck media.
meteora8423gotta agree with u. i dont understand ppl who claim they like a band jus bcuz its popular. to me, if it sounds good, ill listen to it - regardless if its "mainstream." like im a fan of bands from led zeppelin, pink floyd, armin van buuren, to kanye west. it doesnt matter to me if theyr not popular, if the songs appeals to me, ill listen to it. i feel sorry for ppl who restrict themselves to listen to only whats "popular". they r caging themselves in & being worked by the media, too bad for them
TheEddiebx ahh, so that IS ur arguement. that is a whole discussion within itself that is worth debating. i'm not to sure about this indie sound thing. i dont think that anything with a different sound should be labeled indie. i mean, can u really put together a tottal and definte description or summary of what indie sounds like? everything has a genre, and it shouldn't be iresponsibily thrown into a category like indie just because its hard 2 descripe or sounds new wavish, or folkish, or electronicish.
― Drama Mama's and Papa's too! (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:00 (sixteen years ago)
oh internet
― that is a whole discussion within itself that is worth debating (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:01 (sixteen years ago)
i do have to say that grizzly/AnCo/phoenix/dirty pro/yeahyeahyeahs (GAPDY) are all perfectly fine albums, but to call them the BEST ALBUMS OF THE YEAR really just means that you're not listening to enough records.
― my adrian langs a ton (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:06 (sixteen years ago)
i doubt any of those albums are much worse than the xx album that's in a lot of lists this year too.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:06 (sixteen years ago)
but lets face it, no matter what's in a list some will moan.
ban lists
― my adrian langs a ton (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)
opening track of dirty projectors is successfully managing to irritate me beyond all reason, and i am a fan of irritating music
second track = oh my god this really is gonna be of that twee, precious, ultradeliberate strain of american indie that almost always makes me wanna hurl
this ain't bringing the noise, sorry
― 102. LJ: British. 5. (acoleuthic), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago)
Whiney, you KNOW you're gonna eventually publish a list of your 1,000 Twitter reviews somewhere, plus a special deluxe leatherbound edition!
― Fastnbulbous, Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:11 (sixteen years ago)
wire is always the one i wait for, but i know that isn't original to say.
one album that was great but didn't make my top 10 list: that pissed jeans album! man. if only it'd dropped in a weaker year for music.
― LAMBDA LAMBDA LANDA (Beatrix Kiddo), Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:14 (sixteen years ago)
whiney, like i said on email, publish the twitter/1,000 deal-e-o as a pamphlet in a limited edition of 1,000
My favourite album of the year was Pere Ubu's "Long Live Pere Ubu!", closely followed by Dubblestandart's "Return TO Planet Dub", but I'm not getting butthurt they're not in the critics' end year lists.
― dog latin, Thursday, 10 December 2009 20:33 (sixteen years ago)