Yeah, I think Low is a huge (and largely unacknowledged) influence here...
― pshrbrn, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:50 (sixteen years ago)
I said upthread that they reminded me of Insides X Colder.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:08 (14 hours ago) Bookmark
Also Circlesquare maybe?
― Neil S, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 16:53 (sixteen years ago)
Ahem:
The other thing this reminded me of was LOW - who evidently aren't as fashionable a touchstone as, I dunno, dubstep or whatever.
― Tuncay Stryder (Matt DC), Wednesday, September 2, 2009 9:25 AM
― Space Battle Rothko (Matt DC), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:08 (sixteen years ago)
huh they didn't remind me of low at all
― goole, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:10 (sixteen years ago)
oops sorry mattdc
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:11 (sixteen years ago)
This record is what I hoped the Young Marble Giants would sound like. When I finally got around to hearing that "classic" it left me cold. This is far better.
^insane
― DavidM, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:58 (sixteen years ago)
^^^
― plaxico (I know, right?), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 17:59 (sixteen years ago)
Low tend to harmonize much more often - like, almost constantly. The sense of intimacy is somewhat similar.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:09 (sixteen years ago)
Further ahems:
Maybe some Bizarro World version of Low where they don't harmonise, and Alan can't sing...
― Bill A, Wednesday, September 2, 2009 10:20 PM (3 months ago)
As long as people keep repping for this lot, I'll keep hating.
― Bill A, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 22:40 (sixteen years ago)
you could say low, but that only makes as much sense as young marble giants and the cowboy junkies' trinity sessions. that is, pin-drop quiet, maximum loveliness, lots of space & reverb, a taste for understatement that perversely makes high drama of every nuance.
main difference IS the set of reference points and function. this is built around post-punk, r&b, disco and yeah maybe reflects dubstep. don't hear any of that in low, who rise more from doomy country & folk, vaguely gothic ambient stuff, and slowcore. so while the XX's fragile, silvery hush resembles lots of other "fragile, silvery hush" bands, it doesn't make them the same as.
actually, low = an entirely career built around liking the trinity sessions makes much more sense to me than the idea that either have anything to do with this.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:00 (sixteen years ago)
"entire career" ahem
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:01 (sixteen years ago)
i dunno. i'm not saying it SOUNDS exactly like low, but i hear some in it, and frankly i could just as easily see low being a band these kids like as young marble giants, low is way more well known.
― eight woofers in the trunk sb'n down the block (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:02 (sixteen years ago)
yeah, not saying that there isn't a similarity or that influence is unlikely, just that i don't see any "LOW WITH BAD SINGING HA!" kinda copycat thing going on.
― a dimension that can only be accessed through self-immolation (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:12 (sixteen years ago)
― Neil S, Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:53 AM (6 hours ago) Bookmark
ayo anyone digging this should def check out the really really good Circlesquare album from earlier this year 'songs about dancing and drugs' you will like it
― jabba hands, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 23:17 (sixteen years ago)
finally got round to hearing this. no idea if anyone else feels similar as i cant scroll through this thread right now, but i like the dreaminess of what they do, but it does become a bit one-note after a while, and oddly a bit depthless. almost too wilfully mono-dreamy. as if they can do something else too but chose not to for some reason. at times im sure it sounded like the girl was almost going to giggle from all the straight faced oh so sincere innocence/sweetness. i like the idea of a band like this doing hot like fire and the cover is interesting but its so fucking coy in how it removes all traces of sex and suggestiveness from the song. pretty weird. i am going to keep listening to it but theres something a bit pastichey about what it does with its dream poppy showgazy influences, something missing. all perfectly executed, just not much gravitas to it.
― titchy (titchyschneiderMk2), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 16:11 (sixteen years ago)
*shoegazy
sudden vision of a shoegaze night on American Idol, kids belting out "Head On" and "Feed Me With Your Kiss" Broadway style.
― bendy, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 17:08 (sixteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jte8gzCKsYs
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 18:24 (sixteen years ago)
kinda wish they capitalized "XX" tbh
― Na'vi Girls (Need Love Too) (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 20:40 (sixteen years ago)
xx is just smaller XX
― ethan PADGY (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 20 January 2010 21:15 (sixteen years ago)
In the New Yorker, SFJ excellent on The xx:
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/musical/2010/01/25/100125crmu_music_frerejones?currentPage=all
― kshighway (ksh), Monday, 25 January 2010 02:19 (sixteen years ago)
The article makes them sound not commercial...this is the reason I hate this group, they sound too packaged. There are any number of lesser known groups that do the lazy singing and minimalism but they don't sound as expen$ive.
― US EEL (u s steel), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 01:10 (sixteen years ago)
pls name names
― I think ur a probotector (cozen), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 01:26 (sixteen years ago)
cozen beat me to it, genuinely curious.
― you gone float up with it (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 01:27 (sixteen years ago)
prinzhorn dance school?
― jed_, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:07 (sixteen years ago)
so inauthentic...so 'packaged'
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:10 (sixteen years ago)
i really like that piece. i sorta suspect i like it because he had to write about them from a position of dislike at some level
― not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:11 (sixteen years ago)
i love the idea of sfj storming out of an xx show "unexpectedly cross"
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 02:39 (sixteen years ago)
"Madley Croft and Sim exchange lyrics on iChat, and never discuss what they mean."
ugh. Makes me dislike this band more than I already do. I find it so unbelievably cheesy
― Emily's Cheese, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 03:28 (sixteen years ago)
why's that cheesy?
― kshighway (ksh), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 03:30 (sixteen years ago)
how dare people communicate via the internet this is an outrage
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 03:50 (sixteen years ago)
AN OUTRAGE
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 03:51 (sixteen years ago)
SERIOUS LYRICS MAY ONLY BE TRANSMITTED VIA CARRIER PIGEON
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 03:52 (sixteen years ago)
i still use telegraph tbh
― kshighway (ksh), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 03:53 (sixteen years ago)
These guys are like The Fall Redux, and the xx are nothing like 'em.
― I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 04:59 (sixteen years ago)
It's not about "authenticity", it's about bad recording that doesn't do any justice to the chops of the singers. They are talented singers but they don't sound HUMAN. Also they sound so high school talent show, no distinctive personality. This has nothing to do with ideology, and I have no "authenticity" fetish, sometimes the recording doesn't fit the style of music.
― US EEL (u s steel), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:03 (sixteen years ago)
how should they have been recorded?
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:05 (sixteen years ago)
Like, someone upthread mentioned the Cowboy Junkies, at least their records have a sense of naturalism to them. People are being sold a bunch of rubbish here, I am afraid, the reviews and marketing are manipulative like I'm supposed to "feel" something when listening to derivative high school talent.
― US EEL (u s steel), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:08 (sixteen years ago)
w/humanity
― mage pit laceration (gbx), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:09 (sixteen years ago)
so bummed to have been lied to, thx for getting these dang scales off my eyes
― mage pit laceration (gbx), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:10 (sixteen years ago)
they're beat happening with all the noise sucked out & rough edges sanded off so that the space is pristine. variations on the same aesthetic choice imo.
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:14 (sixteen years ago)
u s steel i really don't think most people are having the same experience you are with this record.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:18 (sixteen years ago)
I don't disrespect people for liking it, it is an appealing style, it's just that I think the press aren't doing their job if they don't realize how many artists are currently mining the same turf and have been for about ten years.
― US EEL (u s steel), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:22 (sixteen years ago)
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― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:23 (sixteen years ago)
For example, I have a subscription to emusic where every day I find twenty-two bands with this style. They are so ubiquitous it is impossible to name names. Why is it so important to you?
Try Colder or, as someone mentioned above, The Chromatics, both better groups. What rock are you living under if you don't realize the eighties thing is too influential right now?
― US EEL (u s steel), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:29 (sixteen years ago)
what a disaster for humanity, and the press
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:31 (sixteen years ago)
wow dude pretty amazing you find 22 bands/day with this style yet can't remember their names well enough to type them out to me. a little concerned for you tbh.
on a related note, i fucking listen to the chromatics and have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:31 (sixteen years ago)
As a journalist, you are supposed to do research as part of your job, not just repeat what some marketing department tells you.
You would think "I'm just not feeling it" would be inoffensive criticism. As for the Chromatics, I am not the one who mentioned them upthread.
I am sorry, perhaps if you get defensive enough on this thread you can convince me of the emotional power of The XX. You want people to do you favors for free, you could be nicer about it.
― US EEL (u s steel), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:39 (sixteen years ago)
lol honestly i was genuinely curious as to what bands you considered to be similar to this one. i care fuck all whether you like them or not.
but please carry on being a complete dick and not engaging with people who are trying to engage with you, i'm going to bed.
― call all destroyer, Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:42 (sixteen years ago)
i don't think anyone really cares if u s steel is convinced of the emotional power of the xx, gotta say
― waka shame (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 26 January 2010 05:43 (sixteen years ago)