Daft Punk - Human After All

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I think only robots should be allowed to post on this thread from now on.

Alba (Alba), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:41 (twenty-one years ago)

perhaps it's a record only a robot mother could love.

andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 19:51 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is, a lot of people I know like Human After All who didn't care about the first two albums. Can't help it, they did something right, something some of us ILM'ers just don't get.

I still think it's neat, doesn't get boring at all after repeated listenings and I love to spin mad theories about it.

Now as for that falling over to give it bad reviews bit. Someone like Mark has been gutted for months and that's some honest disappointment he writes about. But really some of the newspaper reviews totally read like "oh man I've been waiting for this chance for a long while." Hey, you don't like it, great, but what depresses me is how little effort some make to analyze this album beyond "repetition. boring. they made it in two days. they lost it. insert crap one-liner."

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:28 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is, a lot of people I know like Human After All who didn't care about the first two albums. Can't help it, they did something right, something some of us ILM'ers just don't get.

Now THAT'S an interesting new precedent - brand new Daft Punk fans. Cool.

Now as for that falling over to give it bad reviews bit. Someone like Mark has been gutted for months and that's some honest disappointment he writes about. But really some of the newspaper reviews totally read like "oh man I've been waiting for this chance for a long while." Hey, you don't like it, great, but what depresses me is how little effort some make to analyze this album beyond "repetition. boring. they made it in two days. they lost it. insert crap one-liner."

Dude, we're talking about newspaper reviews.

Mind you, I reckon Nate, for example, has made an effort to go beyond that and he still finds HAA wanting. That's a dodgy generalisation to make.

Deerninja B4rim4, Plus-Tech Whizz Kid (Barima), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 20:35 (twenty-one years ago)

Now THAT'S an interesting new precedent - brand new Daft Punk fans

It's true though. Dude.

That's a dodgy generalisation to make.

Talking to me? :) err...just in case, I didn't make any generalisation did I? (I'm going "some this", "some that." )

Omar (Omar), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm almost deliberately delaying hearing this so that I can come onto this thread in three months time with a ridiculously tardy position.

Some of the reviews I've read do possess a rather boring "so the emperor really DOES have no clothes" air of anti-DP triumphalism - basically by people who think both Discovery and HAA are superficial conceptual jokes, only this time the masses won't be taken in.

I don't need to hear the new album to know that this is wrong obv.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 22:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do people hate on industrial and blorp blapp sounds. You guys are gay... go listen to early 90s trance.

green uno skip card (ex machina), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 22:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I just listened to the CD and actually enjoyed it immensely. It's no Discovery but it still has that Daft Punk mystery, it's just the wonder is more jaded.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

It definitely is more jaded. I dunno — maybe I'm up my own ass or something, but I have a difficult time imagining how more people cant hear HAA without at least SOME measure of irony. I mean, you only need to listen to "Robot Rock" repeat that fucking riff six thousand times to understand that they're doing a lot of this with tongue firmly planted in cheek.

It would be one thing if this came out after Homework, but it just so happened to come out after one of the best pop albums of the decade. Which for tons of people makes HAA's lack of tunes and proper songcraft unacceptable — for me, it makes this intentional. And pretty brave.

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)

When are the ILX admins going to develop an "ignore" filter? Just wondering.

(PS: I hope Wolf Eyes' next album sounds like Franz Ferdinand.)

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Tuesday, 15 March 2005 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

A bit timely that the reissued United States of Electronica album came out today in the U.S. along with HAA.

I like how the Pfork review of HAA is as tossed off as the album is.

(that said, I find HAA a bit average with some good bits)

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Who do you want to ignore, Nate?

Alba (Alba), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Here's a hint: he's only posted to this thread twice.
Here's another hint: He is to Something Awful what C-Man is to Maxim.

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 00:57 (twenty-one years ago)

You seem fixated.

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm on your Wire-readers-on-crank-board enemies list now; I figure I might as well go for it.

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:12 (twenty-one years ago)

On the other hand, arguing with people who develop a fucking enemies list on a fucking internet messageboard is futility personified. Life's to short to run around starting shit with people over this kind of bullshit.

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

what is this "life" you speak of

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, I don't even know what you're arguing with me about. This is a thread about DAFT PUNK. Get a life.

xpost

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Step 1: I draw up a post positing that I do not like the new Daft Punk album because it sounds like a type of music I do not want/like/expect from Daft Punk
Step 2: Jon calls me gay
Step 3: I make smarmy but comparatively lighthearted retort
Step 4: I am added onto the Noise Idiot enemies list
Step 5: I post that thing about Jon being the C-Man of the Something Awful set
Step 6: WTF, are you 12?

Christ, I could forgive you if you were, I don't know, funny or something.

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

walk away nate, walk away

mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Then again, I can't come within 12 feet of ILx without turning into a total spastic. And derailing threads. And making myself look like a thalidomide baby on angel dust. Like I said. Futility.

(xpost: good idea)

Stupornaut (natepatrin), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I noticed you left out the step where you lurk on the noise board. xpost

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Go back to your trance CDs.

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I think only robots should be allowed to post on this thread from now on.

abracadabra

fe zaffe (fezaffe), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:38 (twenty-one years ago)

can someone summarize this thread in two paragraphs for me?

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 01:43 (twenty-one years ago)

"Go back to your trance CDs" is the gist of it

s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

A photo of Monica Bellucci with an emphasis on the body part of your choice would validate this thing entirely.

BARMS, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 09:16 (twenty-one years ago)

MIXMAG has an ace DP article. no really. the one with BEZ on the cover.

piscesboy, Wednesday, 16 March 2005 11:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Why do people hate on industrial and blorp blapp sounds. You guys are gay... go listen to early 90s trance.
-- green uno skip card (j()nathan.william$@geeMaleDotCom), March 15th, 2005. (later)

haha early 90s trance is pretty good, you might like it.

if you like industrial sounding stuff, you need to hear even better stuff than Human After All, like the Blackstrobe Essential Mix or something.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i listened to this today after a month-long break. i like it again!!

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Amateurist:

OMG new Daft Punk album is TEH SUCK
d00d U R TEH GHEY

rinse, repeat

daria g (daria g), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah thanks for that, that's a really good way you've summed up 1000 posts there. really helpful.

Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

well, she did forget the most crucial part:

"on/off is ace. best best. makes me cry. more emotional than one more time."

sleep (sleep), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:11 (twenty-one years ago)

there's also this heavy slant towards comparing "discovery" and "human after all" and acting like daft punk have been doing nothing in the intervening time.

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:24 (twenty-one years ago)

haha early 90s trance is pretty good, you might like it.
WRONG!
if you like industrial sounding stuff, you need to hear even better stuff than Human After All, like the Blackstrobe Essential Mix or something.

-- Ronan (ronan.fitzgerald6NOSPA...) (webmail), March 16th, 2005 12:24 PM. (Ronan) (link)

Don't condescend to me.

Dr. Eldon Tyrell (ex machina), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:27 (twenty-one years ago)

here is some early 90s trance you'll probably like, jon

http://www.irdial.com/catfix.htm

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:31 (twenty-one years ago)

actually i think the mp3s are at this mirror: http://irdial.hyperreal.org/

vahid (vahid), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 19:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Downloaded the album back when people thought it was a fake and i liked it a lot. Hadn't heard it in a month or so but after all the reviews and the official release I started playing the mp3s again and I still like it.

This is the probably most-played new album for me, I'm really into it. To tell the truth, much moreso than the new Mouse on Mars, which I really didnt like the first time I heard it. Maybe i should put that on as well..

Adam Bruneau (oliver8bit), Wednesday, 16 March 2005 21:51 (twenty-one years ago)

if you don't like early 90s trance you don't deserve to live

Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Are we talking Jam & Spoon "Stella"?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

JA. PLOOS EIN TECHNOTRANCE, ICHT LICHTEN R&S VS EYE Q

Sven Bastard (blueski), Thursday, 17 March 2005 01:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Anyway -- still a great album. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 March 2005 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

DAFT PONG!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 17 March 2005 18:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I really like it and have convinced several people to buy it.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

soulwax remix robot rock?

jed_ (jed), Thursday, 17 March 2005 22:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Hear it here ("uur 2"). (That's my radio show from last weekend.)

JoB (JoB), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah, thanks JoB. Just hearing it now. Hmmm... I'm not sure that Soulwax's pissing about with it achieves really. The original is this ridiculous monolithic thing that you can either go with or more rationally get bored of within a couple of minutes. This keeps the slamming thing that gets boring to dance to unless you are going totally mental but loses the audacity of the original.

But maybe I'm just not in the mood.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 18 March 2005 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)

What's with DP's mega-compression that makes the bass drum TOTALLY ERADICATE EVERYTHING ELSE IN EXISTENCE for a split-second?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 19 March 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing is, a lot of people I know like Human After All who didn't care about the first two albums. Can't help it, they did something right, something some of us ILM'ers just don't get.

Stop talking about me. ;-) I think the reason why I never bothered with the music: the cutesy videoclip I saw on MTV. I know it's wrong to dislike a band based on a videoclip. But it's not that I really disliked'em, I just didn't care about their image so didn't bother with the music. All in all I find HAA to be a good album. No more no less. Probably would give it a seven (tops). I don't really like it as a *whole*, I like some elements IMMENSELY. But to hate the album? I can understand, just don't agree at all.

nathalie barefoot in the head (stevie nixed), Saturday, 19 March 2005 13:18 (twenty-one years ago)


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