jeez not everything is balearic, guys
― jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:10 (fifteen years ago) link
Tim, stuff from actual 70s? Or modern?
If the latter is allowed, o where to start.
The Beta Band and all their friends, for starters.
― Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 19:13 (fifteen years ago) link
can we just put on cosmo galactic prism and dance around the campfire?
― tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:23 (fifteen years ago) link
balearic is a state of mind man
― tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:27 (fifteen years ago) link
jaxons mom is pretty balearic
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:37 (fifteen years ago) link
smooth, easy, and perfect for getting down with after a night out
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:38 (fifteen years ago) link
your mom's a beardo
― jaxon, Monday, 20 October 2008 19:45 (fifteen years ago) link
I know my thread title is confusing, but it was sort of deliberate: the idea is that there definitely seems to be a loose canon emerging which stretches from David Crosby (but perhaps not CS&N per se) through to say Arthur Russell. If "beardo disco" and "nu-balearic" are slightly distinct but overlapping revivalist scenes then this is the stuff that members from both stuff think is good stuff, dude. Albums that I would get laughed off djhistory.com for not having heard.
It's distinct from soft-rock or "California rock" or any other actual historical scene partly because it's broader than that, but also insofar as this needs to be stuff that either has been or very soon will be recontextualised by people currently or formerly into dance music. But it doesn't need to dance-like itself. Am i making more sense?
jaxon seems to get it.
― Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:30 (fifteen years ago) link
BTW jaxon is that the Alan Parsons Project album I should check out?
― Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:31 (fifteen years ago) link
I'm thinking this canon might even include stuff like this as an outlier:
http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/355/thumbnailhp5.jpg
― Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:33 (fifteen years ago) link
oh ok tim u should have just called it "maxs favorite albums thread" then
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:34 (fifteen years ago) link
http://onlinestorefakrounmusic.com/images/45singllayahob.jpg
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:40 (fifteen years ago) link
um, the new Hatchback album, Colors Of The Sun. Any track by Studio? Maybe those are too obvious but I think they definitely fit
― Bomb Bomb Iran (san frandisco), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:41 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.discogs.com/image/R-150-436199-1118592662.jpg
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:42 (fifteen years ago) link
andreas vollenweider maybe?
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
bordering on Harley and not beachy, but first three James Gang records.
Also, for similar reasons, first two Sugarloaf records.
― Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:43 (fifteen years ago) link
chris rea is the king of the desultory beach party
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:44 (fifteen years ago) link
the "crazy" angle: Osmonds' Crazy Horses and parts of The Plan
― Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link
whenever i think of fool if you think it's over i think of miracles by jefferson starship and that makes me think of i'm not in love by 10cc. EVERY TIME.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link
A good chunk of The Free Design and Harpers Bizarre (it would have to be a bit of a twee beach)
― Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:46 (fifteen years ago) link
"on the beach" has my favorite chris rea drum machine sound:
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
Lighthouse!
― Woman Who Force Madonna At House Party To Make Bold Statement (Mackro Mackro), Monday, 20 October 2008 20:47 (fifteen years ago) link
"all summer long" is great too:
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:48 (fifteen years ago) link
"jax ur list seems more like a general balearic canon and not necc "beardo beach hippie""
max's point here is sound though: i sort of want the "beardo beach hippie" end of this continuum filled in more as I only know a little bit of this stuff, mostly at the more conservative end if/where my mother was a fan. But feel free to post anything along the continuum.
Stuff that would previously be considered as "rock" but now is considered genre-smashing avant genius (whether this seems fair or not) strikes me as interesting precisely for that reason, the way new ears "hear" something more than perhaps is even really there. The overreaching claims made on behalf of Pacific Ocean Blue are a good example (a great album despite not sounding like Remain In Light etc.). On the Dennis Wilson thread people were suggesting the following as canonical picks:
http://bp3.blogger.com/_aNTsUIQhmf0/SB8oGu7EW-I/AAAAAAAAATU/t-TxiAHZxwA/s320/Chris+Bell+-+I+Am+The+Cosmos+-+1992.jpg
http://bp2.blogger.com/_BR-l63C-2iA/SAjBAsW2xQI/AAAAAAAAB7k/3UUYcibPvZU/s320/Gene+Clark+No+Other.jpg
http://bp1.blogger.com/_2U1VTXrO58c/RyGUgfK5L-I/AAAAAAAAAAM/OUgUCRhtwl8/s320/skip+spence+oar.jpg
― Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:49 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.valarock.com/starsailor.jpg
chris rea must be a huge jj cale fan. that's all i know. which is wonderful. cuz i love jj. who needs david sylvian when you can just listen to chris rea and jj cale? no fretless bass to distract either!
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:50 (fifteen years ago) link
"i sort of want the "beardo beach hippie" end of this continuum filled in more as I only know a little bit of this stuff,"
well then seriously you should check that west coast thread again. there are only 4 million recommendations on there.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:51 (fifteen years ago) link
no other is the greatest album ever made. this year. for me. and maybe next year too.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link
"no other" is great but has more of a c/w vibe than "beach" vibe i think
david crosby is totally this tho! isnt there even a beach on the cover of "if i could only remember my name"?
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:52 (fifteen years ago) link
My contribution: a band called Sea Level, also known as most of the Allman Brothers rhythm section.
http://www.zshare.net/audio/501033035f70b261/
Also Mcguinn, Clark and Hillman.
― Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:53 (fifteen years ago) link
"looking for the summer" is the best chris rea summertime video though:
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:54 (fifteen years ago) link
"no other" is great but has more of a c/w vibe than "beach" vibe i think"
really more of an undead hollywood goth pimp vibe if you ask me.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
"david crosby is totally this tho! isnt there even a beach on the cover of "if i could only remember my name"?"
Yes! See upthread.
Scott the purpose of this thread is so that people like you and max can tell me that No Other, while amazing, doesn't fit into this canon. I haven't heard it so I don't know!
I want to check out everything on the west coast thread. give me a million years and a million dollars plz.
― Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:55 (fifteen years ago) link
skot wolf king of la sounds more like that than no other does! i think.
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:56 (fifteen years ago) link
So is it Ok for some vaguely rhythmic New Age to get thrown with all the Alan Parsons and Eno?
If so Kitaro, his first two albums mostly.
― Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
What is the best Santana album BTW?
― Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 20:59 (fifteen years ago) link
i need more shadowfax albums.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:00 (fifteen years ago) link
oh jeez, where to start. santana have so many amazing albums. and so many different periods and sounds...
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
i spent a lot of time this spring with the first disc of this, but there is also a lot of crap in that box.
― tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
http://peelout.typepad.com/peel_out/images/wolf_king.jpg
^^ if this doesnt say undead hollywood goth pimp to you i dont know what does
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:01 (fifteen years ago) link
buy LOTUS, i dare you. so amazing...
http://i.inlive.co.kr/alb/m00/d26/l0026439.gif
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:02 (fifteen years ago) link
i like that john phillips record. i haven't heard it in years. i like almost everthing he ever did though. um, with group and on his own.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:03 (fifteen years ago) link
sorry, my last post was a confusing xpost re crosby.
― tricky, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
u know what tim? im listening to no other right now with beach in mind and i think it might fit. title track in particular.
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:09 (fifteen years ago) link
speaking of shadowfax, i always really dug tri atma too:
(first tri atma album is awesome, and sadly i no longer own a copy)
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
title track of no other fits everything that i am on earth. getting strength of strings tattoo one of these days.
― scott seward, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
Re No Other, I still plan to get it either way max.
I also liked the idea Jeff W proposed early on in the West Coast thread of a studio session musician artistry album canon (though he didn't put it quite like that) - something quite separate both to Gene Clark and balearic beardo beach hippies.
― Tim F, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:12 (fifteen years ago) link
http://www.chaineux.de/kitaro/disco/clip/sm_astral_voyage_geffen_24082_cover.jpghttp://lh5.ggpht.com/MyJazzWorld/RoZecNHWxcI/AAAAAAAAAGU/KvTfovYGy-M/s288/SeaLevel_OnTheEdge.
Just to recap.
― Siah Alan, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
this is kind of hard cause some of this stuff--gene clark & john phillips say--doesnt necessarily scream "beach" (tho they do scream "70s LA" to me), but would totally fit in a mix sandwiched with 'beach party'-er songs. if that makes sense. so like "no other" doesn't necc work as part of this "canon" 'cause as an album its a little too c/w, i think, but individual songs given a chance would fit well
― max, Monday, 20 October 2008 21:14 (fifteen years ago) link
I mean yeah, that playlist has pretty much no througline whatsoever
― Specific Ocean Blue (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 September 2020 18:47 (three years ago) link
xxp tbh it's more kenny loggins
― brimstead, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:06 (three years ago) link
i think that djhistory list just reflects how it was more an approach to djing than a solid "genre" or whatever, like 'rare groove' etc, a focused eclecticism (ugh sorry), idk
― brimstead, Tuesday, 15 September 2020 20:11 (three years ago) link
I don’t agree theres “no throughline”
― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Wednesday, 16 September 2020 06:08 (three years ago) link
There's totally a throughline.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:01 (three years ago) link
If people are still going "lol what's a balearic", this piece I wrote more than 12 (!) years ago is probably still my take:
https://www.idolator.com/371805/mungolian-jet-sets-ostentatious-folk-rock-jazz-disco-and-the-return-of-balaeric
― Tim F, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:05 (three years ago) link
This has been playing in a local cafe recently and I had to ask them what it was, its pretty vibey hats off to them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40vnfkuetog
― saer, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:25 (three years ago) link
The piano break in Magic Man is so reminiscent of one of those loft records but I'll never remember what
― saer, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 07:27 (three years ago) link
That Riney album sounds like sped-up vaporwave
― calstars, Wednesday, 16 September 2020 11:40 (three years ago) link
Still love that MJS album Tim xps
Seem to remember seeing a social media post from them recently that looked like they were working on some new stuff
― groovypanda, Friday, 18 September 2020 13:41 (three years ago) link
Maybe I'll have more luck pushing this here than on the Soviet Pop thread, although I think it would get my desultory ass out of the hammock for a late summer boogie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wrelzl_FEaU
― Noel Emits, Thursday, 26 August 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link
I was at the beach in Vama Veche today, which AFAICT is Romania's beardo hippie nudist mecca, and I started reaching the conclusion that there is actually a balearic cover version out there for every song. This was after hearing the balearic "no rain" (blind melon) followed by balearic "paranoid" (sabbath).
― enochroot, Thursday, 26 August 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link
Sounds weird but hot
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Friday, 27 August 2021 02:59 (two years ago) link
pretty sure beyondmintvinyls has a copy for sale
― davey, Saturday, 28 August 2021 16:13 (two years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/beyondmintvinyls/
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― gr8080, Tuesday, 7 February 2023 17:36 (one year ago) link