Disco Inferno: please help me out

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Yez is welcome (both you and Barima). The In Debt material is great, "Emigre" and of course "Waking Up" are both spectacular, it just lives up to its name most of the time whereas what followed is like another world. And "DI Go Pop" the song is a mindblower, no question.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, Emigre definitely seemed like the best one on the album.

It's nice that you wrote the AMG reviews on the EPs. Negates the need for me to ask for your opinions on those.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Tuesday, 10 February 2004 22:03 (twenty years ago) link

"A Night on the Tiles" is wonderfully... what is the word? Expressive, I think, of aural levity and the dazed quality of a night out. For me, "The Last Dance" and the even more glistening "The Long Dance" (variation/extension of the former) stand out as a great melody, and deeply felt.

Durutti Column (maybe snatches of that "Return Of..." debut) and the Chameleons are definitely vague comparison points. Also, they're at times like an avant-Go-Betweens, with tracks like "The Atheist's Burden"; its melody and the singer's voice carry that Go-Betweens lilt.
There are very pleasing connections for me in the use of sound, with the debut Matt Johnson record, "Burning Blue Soul"; vocals certainly less demonstrative though. "At The End of The Line" I'd suggest was one of those that reminds me at fleeting moments of BBS; a similarly thick, crystalline texture.

Overall, they seem to have a genuinely original sound, and crucially can't be easily pigeonholed. It is a sundazed, avant-pop, I guess... but such a statement doesn't do them justice, esp. considering that within these 5 EPs there is quite a variety of approach.

He he... just listening to "It's A Kid's World", around the 3:30 mark 'til the fade; the Peter Howell Dr Who theme is sampled, is it not? :-) Who would have thought "Lust For Life" could be so productively combined with that...?

Tom May (Tom May), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:18 (twenty years ago) link

It's nice that you wrote the AMG reviews on the EPs. Negates the need for me to ask for your opinions on those.

I seem to remember Andy Kellman first e-mailing me four years back expressing a bit of jealousy that I ended up doing those before he did! He got to do Loop, though, so we're even. ;-) Glad to hear more copies have arrived!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

Oh hey Tom.

I got your I Love the 90s stuff yesterday. Thanks for getting it in.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:20 (twenty years ago) link

It is a sundazed, avant-pop, I guess... but such a statement doesn't do them justice, esp. considering that within these 5 EPs there is quite a variety of approach.

I think it's even more telling thanks to a fantastic comment way upthread by Tim Finney about _DI Go Pop_ (the album):

"D.I. Go Pop" makes much more sense after hearing the EPs. They make the album's rejection of beauty seem more deliberate.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:23 (twenty years ago) link

How different is D.I. Go Pop from the other stuff?

And why'd you send In Debt, but not that?

(Just curious because I thought that was supposed to be their definitive work)

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:25 (twenty years ago) link

I think I sent In Debt because you asked me specifically! ;-) DI Go Pop is quite fantastical and if you go up to my first post on the thread right at the top, you'll find links to two separate reviews I did of it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 01:29 (twenty years ago) link

I've been totally overdosing on the Five EPs lately. Ned I am still eternally indebted to you for this mammoth mission of yours.

"The Long Dance"/"The Last Dance" is def. one of the only pieces of music that brings tears to my eyes every time without fail. "Second Language" is prettier overall but damn if the sudden explosions of guitar colour at the end of the former isn't the most gorgeously bittersweet thing ever.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 10:04 (twenty years ago) link

Always glad to help. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 12:50 (twenty years ago) link

ditto on the overdosement - and ned sent me mine a while ago (i'm the guy in portland, ned)

anyways, i usually profess not really to care about lyrics in rock music but damn if mr. crause doesn't spit (uh is that the right verb in this context) some of the most arresting lyrics i've heard in a while. especially on "summer's last sound." great delivery too! he's like a more nonchalant, apocalyptic barney sumner. and the coda to "it's a kid's world" is like one of the most achingly gorgeous minutes or so of music EVER. ian, aside from having a severely underrated band, must be one of the most underrated guitarists as well. i covet his tone

hjdsl, Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago) link

Must dig out the vinyl EPs when I get home next. They're fantastic records. Are they rarities now Ned? The covers should be put up on AMG. Still think "Footprints in Snow" is their masterstoke -- I've said it before on here but it's the most nostalgic sounding track of the 90's.

David Gunnip (David Gunnip), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:16 (twenty years ago) link

Are they rarities now Ned?

They're out of print at least. How hard they are to find is anyone's guess (the Rough Trade stuff that is -- "Summer's Last Sound"/"Love Stepping Out" went out of print so quickly that I only got my copy [as did Donut Bitch his] thanks to Vinita J. from Che/Rocket Girl as a personal gift).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 17:25 (twenty years ago) link

"D.I. Go Pop" makes much more sense after hearing the EPs. They make the album's rejection of beauty seem more deliberate.

Not to harp on the issue, but this again makes me think of Dome rather than "154." "154" is "154" precisely because the abstract sonic explorations alternate with unbelievably catchy and lushly produced pop. Knowing Wire's studio and songwriting expertise, one can hear Dome as a rejection or perversion of it. I'm interested in "D.I. Go Pop" and very intrigued by the EP's (got them via slsk pretty easily!), but "Go Pop" is hard on the listener in a way 154 only begins to be.

But if you want to elaborate on the comparison I'd be fascinated to read (I did look at the AMG already).

no opinion, Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:38 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, thanks for promoting this stuff here, I probably never would have heard of it otherwise.

no opinion, Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:39 (twenty years ago) link

hard on the listener

Weird thing is I don't think it is, but then again I'm not every listener.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:42 (twenty years ago) link

Just out of curiousity, does anyone know what birdsong they use throughout "Summer's Last Sound"?

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:49 (twenty years ago) link

Weird thing is I don't think it is, but then again I'm not every listener.

How then did you understand the "deliberate rejection of beauty" description (I know it wasn't yours, but you seemed to approve)?

no opinion, Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:53 (twenty years ago) link

Well, I don't equate a rejection of beauty with a rejection of pop. I mean, "DI Go Pop" itself has a melody, three notes' worth, the notes being 'played' on a sample collage or the like. I've been humming it to myself like a mantra for the past ten minutes!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:55 (twenty years ago) link

(To Mike: dunno. The fansites might have more info.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 00:56 (twenty years ago) link

FWIW I always thought the song "D.I. Go Pop" was the band's attempt to make a digital "Feed Me With Your Kiss" - also something of an unlikely pop song.

I think what makes D.I. Go Pop a difficult album is its dourness: the second half of the record isn't really that distinct from their EP work except that it tends to remains pretty understated and greyscale - "Footprints in Snow" being the big exception obviously. Like, it would only take a transcendent guitar solo to turn "New Year" into a big pop number (by the band's standards) but they obstinately refuse to take that path. Only "A Crash At Every Speed" is actually *difficult* I reckon.

Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:56 (twenty years ago) link

i think you can fit technicolour and d.i. go pop on one CDR, can't you?

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:17 (twenty years ago) link

I do believe you can, yes.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:35 (twenty years ago) link

they could have a 3CD box set called "a little something" and it would be complete... sigh.

fortunate hazel (f. hazel), Thursday, 12 February 2004 07:20 (twenty years ago) link

I believe the Byrds song on "Summer's Last Sound" is "Feel A Whole Lot Better" fnar fnar < /maconie>.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 February 2004 09:23 (twenty years ago) link

4 CDs could work -- _In Debt_, the EPs, _DI Go Pop/Mixing It_, _Technicolour_+unreleased demos. Fifth bonus CD: the live set from the show Tom saw.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:11 (twenty years ago) link

Or failign that I could just listen to 'em all on my iPod, ESPECIALLY NOW THE FUCKER'S ARRIVED!!!! HUZZAH!!!!

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:38 (twenty years ago) link

Let celebrations be thine.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 14:44 (twenty years ago) link

FWIW I always thought the song "D.I. Go Pop" was the band's attempt to make a digital "Feed Me With Your Kiss" - also something of an unlikely pop song.

Oh my, that's absolutely perfect! And it explains exactly why I love it so much, as well. Wow.

Andrew Unterberger (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:24 (twenty years ago) link

Do some work, Unterberger. You don't find me pissing about on here when I could be writing reviews of New Order records. Oh.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:37 (twenty years ago) link

TSK. Resolve your differences! ;-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:44 (twenty years ago) link

Charming, Southy, charming.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Thursday, 12 February 2004 15:47 (twenty years ago) link

Check this: www.cduniverse.com lists reissues for DI Go Pop and Technicolour set to drop on April 20, 2004, on the Oli (?) label. The first two AR Kane lps are apparently also being brought back into print by the same folks.

Can't seem to uncover any further news...

doug watson (solid air), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:29 (twenty years ago) link

ooooh, I hope those AR Kane discs include the EPs!

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:30 (twenty years ago) link

Oli = One Little Indian?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:31 (twenty years ago) link

Spencer is OTM
But still no DI news to be found on their website. Damn.

doug watson (solid air), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link

Well, one can hope! :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:37 (twenty years ago) link

Tonight I've been downloading In Debt. Yesterday I ordered the Mixing It EP. On Saturday I made a 'Disco Psychosis' playlist of BP and DI tunes for the iPod. Coincidence? Or serendipity?

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 23 February 2004 21:55 (twenty years ago) link

aiyo ian crause i just wanted 2 let u know ur shit is HOT! HOLLA! keep on doin ya thing BWOI, poeace

juggalo420, Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:18 (twenty years ago) link

Haha!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:50 (twenty years ago) link

I may get my copy of your disc, tomorrow, ned!!

thanks again.

RJG (RJG), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:52 (twenty years ago) link

Yer welcome!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 24 February 2004 00:54 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
Please please please random google Disco Inferno fans - there is much love for Disco Inferno and IT IS HERE. And elsewhere; i.e. use the search button. Please. Please.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:21 (twenty years ago) link

D.I. Rock

Flatfoot (Skinny), Thursday, 6 May 2004 13:23 (twenty years ago) link

The only D.I. that mattered.....

http://www.diunderground.com/images/diphoto.jpg

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

For a song or two, sure. *flees*

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:13 (twenty years ago) link

Hahahaha...pretty accurate, actually. Let's see: "OC Life", "Johnny's Got a Problem", "Richard Hung Himself"....that's pretty much all ya need.

Still.....they were better than Disco Inferno.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:18 (twenty years ago) link

Well, there you are wrong, but I am kind.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:24 (twenty years ago) link

Well, there you are wrong, but I am kind

Blind is spelled with a B and an L, not a K.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:30 (twenty years ago) link

Blink-182 is spelled incorrectly in your sentence there.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 May 2004 17:35 (twenty years ago) link


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