I think what you have is "Chrome Dreams" ... "Homegrown" has never been bootlegged, though songs from it showed up on Neil's albums through Hawks & Doves, I think.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link
and yeah, it's "Separate Ways" i'm thinking of -- a great song that he debuted live like 20 years after he recorded it apparently.
― tylerw, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
All three of these albums have very distinct strengths for me - Tonight's The Night is the most emotionally raw NY record (that I've heard) and it's the best of the three in terms of sustaining an overall mood (albeit a harrowing one); On The Beach has the greatest variety in terms of displaying Neil's various strengths and it has the highest peaks in terms of individual songs (title track and 'Ambulance Blues'); Time Fades Away strikes the best balance in terms of great songwriting and rough, sloppy playing, plus the live aspect gives it an extra edge - it's also the one I've got heaviest into (for a large part of summer 2008 basically), so it gets my vote.
― Gavin in Leeds, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
x-post Yes, you're right. Chrome Dreams it is. I think it has a version of Homegrown on it, hence the confusion.
― Stew, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link
Time Fades Away is a beautiful artifact. I picked up a VG+ copy for £10 around five years ago, complete with the lyric poster. It doesn't seem to be so highly prized, whereas, before the CD reissue, OTB would fetch around £50. Some great songs too - the Bridge is lovely and Don't Be Denied is one of my favourites.
― Stew, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:30 (fourteen years ago) link
Feelin left out on all the "second side of OTB" talk. Much as I love the record, I could totally take or leave those last two tracks. I understand that's not a popular opinion tho.
― "I get through more mojitos.." (bear, bear, bear), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 22:53 (fourteen years ago) link
could anyone help a dude find the manchester 73 live boot, as a cursory search of the interwebs has yet to turn up the necessary mp3s
― WILLIM GARLOS CILLIAMS (stevie), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:21 (fourteen years ago) link
voted Tonight's the Night
― p-dog, Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:30 (fourteen years ago) link
as much as i do like most of time fades away, i would really fail to understand someone voting for it over the other two...it's just fundamentally not as good IMO.
― Mountain Dewm (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 1 December 2009 23:37 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, Time Fades Away is great, it just doesn't have as strong songs as the other two. It's obviously got an incredible vibe, and plenty of wonderful stuff, but it's not a masterpiece like TNT and OTB.
Stevie, if no one's gotten in touch with you, I can probably upload that Manchester show at some point ...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Pls upload it somewhere I can get it too thx!!!
― Who is Kafka? Tell me! (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 16:22 (fourteen years ago) link
Lemme just wrap up Jazz Week on Doom & Gloom and I'll put it up there ...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 16:24 (fourteen years ago) link
much appreciated tyler, thanx!
― WILLIM GARLOS CILLIAMS (stevie), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 17:02 (fourteen years ago) link
d&g rules btw, basically everything is some shit I love
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 17:03 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah love the shit outta yer blog, man.
― Who is Kafka? Tell me! (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link
no doubt.
btw tyler, i KNOW i have that damn jayhawks CDR and i WILL find it but we are doing some work on the house and everything is in total disarray.
― Mountain Dewm (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 17:10 (fourteen years ago) link
This is off topic but Tyler I just listened to your upload of Neil's SNL performance of 'Rockin In The Free World' and it gave me goose bumps all over my body. I remember watching this when it aired originally and it was easily the least genial performance of anything I've ever seen on TV. I remember NY broke at least half the strings on his instrument by the end. Thanks for including it in your In The 80s comp!
― Who is Kafka? Tell me! (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:15 (fourteen years ago) link
tonight's the night's my favorite album by him, so that. side 2 is some of the funniest shit ever on record. when his voice cracks in "tired eyes" i still crack up after all these years
― kamerad, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
wait which CDR? i've got some jayhawk live show (showbox in seattle) of unknown etiology
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:25 (fourteen years ago) link
thanks for the kind words, ILM-ers. Plenty more Neil Young to come, fear not! After the Manchester show, I'll get around to doing an overview of my fave Neil bootlegs from 1976 ...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:28 (fourteen years ago) link
Neil's SNL performance of 'Rockin In The Free World'
his solo performance of "harvest moon" on SNL was really awesome too
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:30 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah those SNL things are nice. to bring it back on topic, though, i wonder if there's any footage of the Tonight's the Night tour in Neil's archives? Would love to see that sleazy band in action. I think in Shakey, it says that there isn't much ...
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:33 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, dying for some performance footage of the Tonight's the Night tour in the UK. Or maybe just audio, even. Will check in to the DoomGloomTomb blog.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:35 (fourteen years ago) link
gbx i have a really good boot of the hard to find vinyl only first jayhawks album on bunkhouse record that a friend of mine had done at a friend's recording studio through the board....lost highway was gonna reissue it on CD but never did
― Mountain Dewm (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
whoah that sounds cool
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:45 (fourteen years ago) link
tonight's the night is some serious middle of the night, driving down country roads smoking cigarettes kinda music.
― jØrdån (omar little), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i dig the other two but it's not even close imo
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this is basically my favorite kind of music
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:51 (fourteen years ago) link
would love to see various "the rough guide to the ditch trilogy" track listings here -- condense it down to the most hair-raising 65 minutes or whatever
― Vin Ordinaire (WmC), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
someone do that plz and ysi thx
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:53 (fourteen years ago) link
(i've only got On The Beach!)
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:54 (fourteen years ago) link
this would be an inneresting poll
1. "On the Beach" – 6:59 2. "Motion Pictures" – 4:23 3. "Ambulance Blues" – 8:56
― jazzgasms (Mr. Que), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd be down for doing a ditch mix
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 18:58 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah, do that
― crazy farting throwback jersey (gbx), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:00 (fourteen years ago) link
Since it's out of print and Neil refuses to release it on CD: http://musicartstyle.blogspot.com/2009/11/neil-young-time-fades-away-1973.html
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link
While Time Fades Away is "lesser" than the others, it is totally worth hearing and it seems ridiculous that Neil keeps it out of print. I've always thought that maybe it's just a little too "personal" or something.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link
Like he just wants the memories connected to those songs to fade away.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:27 (fourteen years ago) link
if that were true he wouldn't have gone to the trouble of preparing an HDCD release
prolly more related to sound quality issues
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
like he wants that "time" to also fade away
― jØrdån (omar little), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link
tho the scrapped HDCD release sounded just fine
who knows
-\(O_o)/-
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:34 (fourteen years ago) link
^ emoticon for head-being-crushed-by-neil's-weird-decisions
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link
The official reason for no CD release of TFA is both sound quality and performance--Neil has said he doesn't like either.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:21 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, that's definitely what he said recently ... Still weird though -- I'm assuming that he is the one who put the album together and wanted it released in the first place. I'm sure that the record company would've loved a more conventional live album from him at that point, but Time Fades Away is not that! It's just weird that you can go on to Amazon and order 'Everybody's Rocking" but can't get "Time Fades Away."
I guess in a recent interview, he said he was going to "re-create" TFA on the Archives using different performances. Whatevs!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:24 (fourteen years ago) link
He won't, though.
― Trip Maker, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:42 (fourteen years ago) link
well it'd be truly nuts if he just skipped that tour for the next archives ... it is wild, though -- he could have a 10-disc box just covering 73-74. So much activity -- TFA, TTN, OTB, Homegrown, CSNY ... The mind boggles. It'll probably be terribly disappointing .... :(
― tylerw, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:50 (fourteen years ago) link
i've been listening to TFA cos of this thread and i realised that i always imagine these songs as being recorded at huge outdoor festivals, but they weren't, were they? not sure if it's the sound of the thing or the ~~vibe~~ that makes me think of wide open spaces.
― jabba hands, Thursday, 3 December 2009 04:13 (fourteen years ago) link
yo - i just put up the three "ditch trilogy" bootlegs mentioned above over at http://doomandgloomfromthetomb.tumblr.com/ Enjoy!
― tylerw, Saturday, 5 December 2009 14:42 (fourteen years ago) link
you star - thank tyler
― dynasty is a feeling (stevie), Saturday, 5 December 2009 14:46 (fourteen years ago) link
ditch mix coming soon
― 鬼の手 (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:56 (fourteen years ago) link
awesome!!!
― ian, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link