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Dude do's and dont's

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 10 July 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Supergroup, as in, "Although one hesitates to apply the overused term 'supergroup', drawing members from Zumpano, Maow, Destroyer and other unheard of bands makes them a sort of indie rock supergroup."

Curt (cgould), Thursday, 10 July 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...
Congrats, you now have no critical terms left! Fucking hell, lighten up -- yer public doesn't read as obsessively as the writers, they're much less likely to get het up about use of 'formally daring' or whatever. You don't get plumbers noncing on about their rivals' grouting being 'tired, played out' do yer. I get more bothered about well-worn (itself a cliche term) quotes, 'children of marx and coca-cola' or 'nobody's perfect', whatever.

Enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 6 November 2003 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Scrupulously avoiding clichés is a cliché. Writing should look effortless, and that means it should have the occasional cliché, they're the drop of vermouth in the gin.

H., Thursday, 6 November 2003 11:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Writing should look effortless

Look brah, no hands!!

enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 6 November 2003 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Effortless is maybe the wrong word, but writing should be free flowing, it shouldn't look forced. I defend the occasional use of clichés.

H., Thursday, 6 November 2003 11:54 (twenty-two years ago)

duane makes a useful point, and in new zealand, i guess we really don't know what people in London get bored with conversationally, but then as duane says, generally nobody in places like this reminds people that they're really doing something annoying. please tell me in my case too.

(i often think i'm being too verbose or unlazy in computer posting becasue i seem to post more than other people sometimes)

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 6 November 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't slag the dead c too much do i ? it's just that here in nz it's too much of a fun thing to bitch about them, and too small a country for the dead c to be bothered avoiding quite happily participating in the "dead c joke" where appropriate

if another nz band as good (at times) as the dead c popped into view, everybody in nz would be bitchily joking, with in most cases the band joining them

i don't thing anbody who i know that enjoys music and has nz connections really dislikes the dead c

george gosset (gegoss), Thursday, 6 November 2003 14:07 (twenty-two years ago)

I am sick to death of clichés! The only music journo. I can STOMACH these days is written in Gaelic (I think it is music criticism anyway). It is a WHOLLY EXCITING and PHONETICAL experience to these ears. I is like nothing I have ever read and remains so to this day! If you ever want to re-evaluate your perceptions of boring old music I suggest you pick up this book that I have. I don't remember what it's called, but you will know it when you see it because it is blue and a seminal mind-f**k, let me tell you. Now here is the problem: I project into the future that the sheer LIMITS of my understanding will eventually cause me to become jaded with regard to the genius of Gaelic music criticism. I mean, how many times can you read the phrase "sljdnneo ssmeiofmmm" anyway, without wanting to puke? I mean, come ON. What happens then? Well, I'll tell you what happens. I have begun my seminal work where I completely revolutionize the music criticism industry itself by myself writing IN GAELIC about all the bands of today. "It's been done", you scoff (and you'd be right). But wait. This is no ordinary Gaelic. This is a new kind of Gaelic you've never seen before because it's IN BRAILLE. (Hint to budding music journos: a ballpeen hammer, an awl and a sheet of aluminum) So far, my eponymous efforts have been rejected as "too heavy" by the establishment at the post office, but believe me, they will come around because this is like The Strokes, revolutionizing the foundations of music to a whole 'nother level.

jazz odysseus, Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew that Paul Morley wd come back one day!

Enrique (Enrique), Thursday, 6 November 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

the majority of these phrases i really hate, but a few of these i've never seen in reviews - only on this forum. i dont believe this makes these phrases genuine cliches.

i overuse "apparently."

billstevejim, Friday, 7 November 2003 05:44 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...
At my job we write headlines, captions and blurbs. These are our banned words:

Ever
Still
Very
Again
Worst
Fail

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 27 April 2005 02:28 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
'tude

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Friday, 3 June 2005 19:16 (twenty-one years ago)

In all forms of journalism and speech for that matter, stop saying "certainly".

geyser muffler and a quarter (Dave225), Friday, 3 June 2005 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Coruscating. I seem to *only* ever see this one in music writing.

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 4 June 2005 06:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh yeah, "Thanks for playing" can go, too. Not a music-writing problem, but at this point still an incredibly irritating way of saying "You're dismissed."

Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 4 June 2005 06:49 (twenty-one years ago)

two years pass...

"might fall apart at any minute"

used just today on ILM

yes it makes your point but seriously: OVERUSED

wanko ergo sum, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 22:57 (eighteen years ago)

full disclosure

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 February 2008 23:05 (eighteen years ago)

"make no mistake"

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 23:14 (eighteen years ago)

I am guilty of many of these but always hated SEMINAL.

CHANTEUESE is super lazy for girl who sings, and I'd like to fuck her.

Mike McGooney-gal, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 23:16 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/acad/intrel/orwell46.htm

Bodrick III, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 23:21 (eighteen years ago)

"interesting."

ian, Tuesday, 5 February 2008 23:43 (eighteen years ago)

Sure I've whined about them before but apparently not covered on this thread:

"sophomore"

"trope"

ledge, Wednesday, 6 February 2008 00:18 (eighteen years ago)

"meme"

It's not clever, illuminating or remotely accurate to compare cultural phenomena with genes, so stop it. Thanks.

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 7 February 2008 11:57 (eighteen years ago)

Also "viral".

Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 7 February 2008 11:59 (eighteen years ago)

"prog"

Tom D., Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:00 (eighteen years ago)

"languid" (Hello, music reviewers for Metro!)

Jeff W, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:32 (eighteen years ago)

i can't believe no one's said "plangent"

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 7 February 2008 12:40 (eighteen years ago)

I've had too much wine to have sexual intercourse.

Geir Hongro, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:00 (eighteen years ago)

"meme"

It's not clever, illuminating or remotely accurate to compare cultural phenomena with genes, so stop it. Thanks.

-- Jamie T Smith, Thursday, 7 February 2008 11:57 (1 hour ago) Link


I disagree. even if you don't buy into the whole "memetics"/genetics extended metaphor (which a lot of people who use the word don't even seem to be aware of), it's a useful term which fills a gap in our language, and I would hate to see it die off eventually just because it's perceived as a trendy buzzword.

bernard snowy, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:16 (eighteen years ago)

I don't think that's likely. It was a trendy word in the 70s. Now it's just a word.

caek, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:18 (eighteen years ago)

"soundscape"

onimo, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:22 (eighteen years ago)

Soundscape is quite a good example of an 'invented' word (duh they all are but you know what I mean) that over time becomes a descriptive/technical word. Not denying it's very overused though

DJ Mencap, Thursday, 7 February 2008 13:28 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 187 for "for once believe the hype".
Results 1 - 10 of about 525 for "around the stage like a man possessed".
Results 1 - 10 of about 4,820 for "blistering guitars".
Results 1 - 10 of about 7,360 for "stunning return to form".
Results 1 - 10 of about 294,000 for "highlights included".

mike t-diva, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:03 (eighteen years ago)

"highlights" is probably the one here I'm most guilty of. not that many words for standouts or best songs, though.

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:13 (eighteen years ago)

"anthemic"

Tom D., Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:14 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,020 for "nimble bass lines."

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:16 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 19,800 for "solid follow up".

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:20 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 2,720 for "Krautrock influenced"

Tom D., Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:21 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 853 for "dreamlike soundscapes".

mike t-diva, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:24 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,780 for "difficult second album syndrome".

mike t-diva, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:25 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 940 for "sonic cathedrals".
Results 1 - 10 of about 87,000 for "Cocteau Twins" + ethereal.

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:26 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,720 for "my penis is on fire". (0.40 seconds)

Dom Passantino, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:29 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,540 for "commanding vocal presence".

mike t-diva, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:30 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,990 for "jackhammer beats".
Results 1 - 10 of about 2,950 for "hypnotic riffs".

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 5,790 for "searing guitar solo".

Tom D., Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:32 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,780 for "difficult second album syndrome".

-- mike t-diva, Thursday, February 7, 2008 10:25 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark Link

weird, I've heard a lot of variations on that idea (usually "sophomore slump"), but I can't remember ever reading the exact phrase "difficult second album syndrome."

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:34 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 697 for "whipped the crowd into a frenzy".

mike t-diva, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:35 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 1,300 for "left the crowd screaming for more".

mike t-diva, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:36 (eighteen years ago)

Results 1 - 10 of about 190,000 for "perfect pop".
Results 1 - 10 of about 5,780 for "pristine pop".

Dingbod Kesterson, Thursday, 7 February 2008 15:39 (eighteen years ago)


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