Dinosaur Jr.: Brilliant or crap?

New album is fantastic. I'm seeing the guys in Texas tonight, with the Black Keys on a double bill - that's an excellent pairing, a great new band on tour with Dino Jr as the opening-band vets, and it'll introduce the guys to the Keys audience - perfect if you ask me.

Been listening to some Dino Jr lately. Where You Been was one of the first albums I ever bought. I'm kind of sad (but not surprised) to see no mention of the excellent Hand It Over on this thread. I think it might be the most consistent and varied of the Dino major label records. The solos on "Alone" slay me.

I'll stump for Hand It Over, my 2nd favorite Dinosaur album after YLAOM, so good, so underrated, especially the middle stretch of the album from "Can't We Move This" to "Mick."

i think i've posted my love for 'hand it over' on some other dino jr thread, but allow me to say it again - so good! my fave dino jr album. i have a sneaking suspicion that kevin shields played guitar on the track 'i'm insane', even though it wasn't credited. at the very least, it sounds like he engineered the guitar sound on that track.

yeah, the liner notes only explicitly credit him with vocals on 2 other tracks but there's also the vague "some other stuff recorded at MBV studio with Kevin Shields" note, so who knows.

i need to get this album. i'm insane is one of my fave djr tracks

the piccolo trumpet line in that song is one of the greatest single things in their entire catalogue. stays in my head for days sometimes

Dino Jr is sort of an excercise in pass/fail. But if you listen to him shread the cover of Maggott Brain(with Mike Watt) - he gets at least a nod towards classic. If it matters, Goin Home is a great example of what he can do when he's not tryong trying to tear the roof off.

Glad to see some HIO love! Too bad it got lost in the shuffle when it came out. I do think there is some Kevin Shields influence in the production even if KS didn't actually do anything.

you basically can't fuck w/"in a jar" imo

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that said

TAR

FUCKING

PIT

they were vaguely disappointing last time i saw them live, but you know fuck it, classic fer life.

ty for your support

Crap.

tarpit is GLORIOUS

fuckin ROARS of NOISE

http://i274.photobucket.com/albums/jj242/donaldparsley/thumsup2.jpg

I was absolutely obsessed with them between the ages of 13 and 17, and loved everything by them--even and especially the Mike Johnson and then post-Murph years: Green Mind, Where You Been, Without a Sound, etc. But I've just come to the conclusion as an adult that they are bad... amazing that Lou Barlow thought he was losing something when he walked away from J Mascis. The guy was so arrogant and cut himself so short by being so arrogant. Being lazy and rude might be funny when the guy is 20 years old, but at 30 or 40? Imagine having Lou Barlow in your band (or someone of equal talent) and being rude to him, making him feel bad about his music, there is no excuse.
I feel like the guy who has really lost out in this nonsense "indie revival" of the last few years is Mike Johnson... he was great in that group and had a number of really good solo albums...

the LP version of tarpit has like 60-120 seconds more of roaring feedback iirc.

Green Mind is still farking ace, I know why they reformed but am a little non-plussed, ho-hum.

Sebadoh or Dinosaur JR is a tricky one, for me it's a straight out battle between Green Mind and Bakesale - GM was one of the first alternative or whateveryouwanttocallit (actually let's call it indie rock) but I was also superimpressed with bakesale, can't decide (what an awful question) so in conclusion both bands are quite good!

Forgot to add a the words "that I first heard along with the pixies" after "GM was one of the first alternative or whateveryouwanttocallit (actually let's call it indie rock)" what an error to make on one's first post, oops.

the LP version of tarpit has like 60-120 seconds more of roaring feedback iirc.

than the merge remaster?

jeeves, lou admits he was pretty much of an asshole back then too, you know?

the LP version of tarpit has like 60-120 seconds more of roaring feedback iirc.

― Fartbritz Sootzveti (Steve Shasta), Friday, September 24, 2010 8:37 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark

to be kept in mind. and all this comparison of green mind vs. bakesale, wtf?!? you're living all over me & bug vs. sebadoh III. and the weed records if you think lou needs the artillery. everything after is just the rest...

"Arrogant, lazy, rude" is frothy paraphrase for "heroin addict".

Better than the Cure but not as good as Jesus and Mary Chain.

-wz Mascis addicted to heroin?

-welcome to ILx, delayed reaction brat.

whoa Merge remastered this? no idea, just talking about the SST versions. Cool for Merge! lmk what you find out.

lmk what you find out

sounds like title of a mascis-penned song

-wz Mascis addicted to heroin?

don't think so (consider the source!)

shasta - sst cd was ATROCIOUS, a 1-second gap between kracked/sludgefeast (unforgivable)!! merge rereleased and remastered it in 2005, along with first and third lps. i never noticed extra noise for tarpit on the sst vinyl tbh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cDWbB4WZik

I don't know this show but the set-up here looks pretty classic imo

― having taken an actual journalism class (contenderizer)

and all this comparison of green mind vs. bakesale, wtf?!?

Note I said "for me", so wtf?!? yerself!

rewtfted

man 'farm' is pretty fucking great

^^^ Its a fantastic album.

yeah i should give it a little more time -- whenever one of the songs comes up on shuffle, i think it sounds surprisingly amazing.

On balance, I like it better than Beyond as far as reunion albums go.

love this record but anything from it coming up on shuffle is a brutal experience imo, like yank your headphones free brutal

maybe that's why it makes me pay attention, haha!

My beef with Farm is that there doesn't seem to be any bass on it.

I think they're a better band now than they were in the 80s/90s

I don't think D Jr ever wrote anything as good as "The Freed Pig" or maybe even "Violet Execution" but still DJR>SEB

listening to Farm now, sounds great. guitar sound might out neil young neil young.

Yep, thats a big part of why I love the album so much. Just a fantastic guitar album.

My beef with Farm is that there doesn't seem to be any bass on it.

Listening to Green Mind right now and I'm genuinely wondering if there's any bass guitar on Puke + Cry