Geir Hongro - Classic or Dud?

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But he's not ill-tempered! That's a very poor equation to draw. He is supremely calm.

Just you wait until I consult my good friend Usama Bin Laden. :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:14 (twenty-three years ago)

haha people died!

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 02:51 (twenty-three years ago)

Hm... Perhaps he's friends with Rolci?

― Prude (Prude), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 03:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Whose this Usama guy, I dont think he posted on A.M.A?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 03:28 (twenty-three years ago)

No offense Geir, but until a couple days ago I thought you were an urban legend. Some practical joker's idea of the ultimate rockist.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 05:34 (twenty-three years ago)

considering how he gives more love to peter gabriel over stephin merritt his 'I'm all about melodies' stance is fraudulence and whitewash

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 07:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean if his 'melody - yes, rhythm - no' thing was for real, then you could agree with it or disagree with it whatever, but he clearly hasn't really thought it out - it's like he happened to like a bunch of bands already (genesis, xtc) and then tried to pretend there was some aesthetic guiding his choices when really they're more arbitrary then he'd like to admit, as he clearly doesn't really adhere to the aesthetic he puts forth, just pretends to.

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 07:35 (twenty-three years ago)

it's a shame though as someone actually representing a 'melodies - yes, rhythm - no' outlook would really have something to add to ILM, but this guy just spits out soundbites. oh well.

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 07:37 (twenty-three years ago)

plus clearly he's a bit of a social retard

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 07:40 (twenty-three years ago)

blount, the problem with meritt is he doesn't use enough chords, see? so his melodies are simple rather than harmonic.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 09:00 (twenty-three years ago)

someone with an adamant claim in melodies would want purity though - plato's wall, bushmiller's rocks, army-navy the 'best' college rivalry becuz its the purest, etc., etc.; hongro betrays true melodicists when he favors genesis over abba, and obv. gabriel over merritt. he tries to have his cake and eat it too.

― James Blount (James Blount), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 10:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Whoever said that melodies were supposed to be simple?

I am first and foremost defending the European classical musical traditions, and those popular musicians that help keep them alive, and those were not simple.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 11:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Just you wait until I consult my good friend Usama Bin Laden. :-)
Yeahh, he's a jerkwad, but his sister -- Ursula Bin Laden -- wow! What a hottie bling bling babe. Even with the beard, she's Babe-raham Lincoln.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)

custos means "thanks to the beard" but is frightened of the lineaments of his own desire

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 13:28 (twenty-three years ago)

which is cool obv

― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 13:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Welll, you never see those Arabian babes without the veil, right?
THATS what their hiding...they've got getter mustaches and beards than their men!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 13:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Geir hongro.

anagram:

Oh negro rig.

― Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 18:56 (twenty-three years ago)

honor Greig

― jm (jtm), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:22 (twenty-three years ago)

Gorge Rhino!

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:22 (twenty-three years ago)

honor Greig

That would be "Honor Grieg", only Grieg was actually among the less melodic composer, with an annoying fondness for frygian tonality...

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Rig her goon

― oops (Oops), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:34 (twenty-three years ago)

I would like to welcome Geir to the world of ILX, and apologise for all the people who are being mean to our new friend.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:37 (twenty-three years ago)

I would like to welcome Geir to the world of ILX, and apologise for all the people who are being mean to our new friend.

That's OK. As stated earlier (in this thread, which started half a year prior to my joining ILX :-) ) I have already put my friend Bin Laden on the case. :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 23:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Homegro = the new connor?

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 6 March 2003 01:24 (twenty-three years ago)

what is the big deal with Sirrah Hongro anyway? is he some kind of internet personality or something?

why is his having opinions about music and being prepared to argue them in a polite and friendly fashion seen by some as a mark of mentalism?

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 6 March 2003 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)

You have never tried arguing with him, I see.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 March 2003 17:51 (twenty-three years ago)

I never argue with people.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 6 March 2003 18:26 (twenty-three years ago)

His opinions about music is exactly what makes ppl accuse him of mentalism, DV, as they are stunningly unorthodox. Then again, anyone with standard ILM anti-rockist views would be seen as a bit of a mentalist in many circles, too.

I, too, think that the Geir-mocking happening around here is getting mighty tiresome, much as he might seem to invite it; it's also quickly gone from good-natured "You Are Fucking Insane" style mockery to rather tasteless personal insults, which is doubly unfortunate.

I've never tried arguing with Geir either, because *obviously* that's hopeless- he's set up this extremley strict system that seems to work for him and he won't budge on it no matter what you say, so why bother? (this last paragraph could basically be summed up as "Tom was OTM"

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 7 March 2003 00:12 (twenty-three years ago)

Then again, anyone with standard ILM anti-rockist views would be seen as a bit of a mentalist in many circles, too.

Hey, I am not a rockist, I am a popist! :-)

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 7 March 2003 00:15 (twenty-three years ago)

that part of the post had nothing to do with any sort of rockisms/popisms on *your* part, it was just about how ILM attitude in general would fit in with other types of listening groups.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 7 March 2003 00:57 (twenty-three years ago)

he's set up this extremley strict system that seems to work for him and he won't budge on it no matter what you say, so why bother

This is true, and it's cool. What is even cooler is that the guy's methodology indicates that the Supernaturals and Dodgy are the greatest artists of the 20th century. The whole of ILM is trumped in wilful contrariness, and therefore made redundant.

― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Friday, 7 March 2003 01:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Blount: good argument about Merritt.

― the pinefox, Friday, 7 March 2003 13:16 (twenty-three years ago)

What about Gondola Bob?

Gondola Bob is still posting in rec.music.progressive.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Friday, 7 March 2003 13:51 (twenty-three years ago)

[Geir Hongro is] honor Grieg

Decent anagram.

Tom was OTM

Poor anagram.

;)

― OleM, Friday, 7 March 2003 16:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh I don't know I rather like it.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 7 March 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Its been said before but Geir Hongro would make a pretty fine band name.

― tigerclawskank, Friday, 7 March 2003 17:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Well its taken him four days to climb half way up the monthly statscock.
Inconceivable!

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Sunday, 9 March 2003 04:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I don't know if this is a boast or something to be ashamed of, but for awhile, I was Active User #21 while he was stranded at Active User #22.
The odd thing is until Gier Showed up, I either languished at the bottom of the chart (or around #45) or didn't even make it on the chart at all.

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 9 March 2003 06:40 (twenty-three years ago)

so what you're saying is that geir made you post more?!

final proof that geir is more dud than evah ;-)

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 9 March 2003 12:12 (twenty-three years ago)

so what you're saying is that geir made you post more?!
Actually, having the flu and being snowed in meant more ILM-time, but posting fruitless rebuttals to the Hangnail the Hongrorible's mad rattlings accounts for and extra 10% of that.
...final proof that geir is more dud than evah ;-)
b-b-but does that mean you don't like when I post?! *WAAAAAAAH* I'm now filled with angst and must listen to a Sebadoh record and weep along with Lou Barlow!

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:26 (twenty-three years ago)

New Thread

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 9 March 2003 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh I don't know I rather like it.

I didn't mean it isn't usually apt, mind.

― OleM (OleM), Sunday, 9 March 2003 20:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Rock history is filled with overrated artists
(Elvis Presley, Little Richard, Animals, Stones, Who, Led
Zeppelin, Doors, Velvet Underground, James Brown, Sly Stone, any
rap, any early house

I am first and foremost defending the European classical musical traditions, and those popular musicians that help keep them alive, and those were not simp

I might be a little late to this fair, but Mr Hongro Such a theoretical mindset might be good for you and those of your ilk. But more civilized music fans who have a broader more advanced concept of musical theory as well as an appreciation for the broad range of feeling and intellect that comprise the constructs to make great music, who dont posess an ear of tin and dont throw catch phrases such as "defending the European classical musical traditions," out of some desperate, dimwittedly nationalist and childishly freudian need to assert a cultural superiority that only exists in the blackened, grimy, cobweb laden windmills of your mind....well let's just say that we prefer more cultivated modes of thought than the primitive analysis you seem to prefer.

― robert lashley (brotherman), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 21:58 (twenty-three years ago)

"why does everyone care so much about what Geir thinks?" (posted on another thread)

i like music which isn't necessarily melodic (as well as melodic music), so i'm always interested to see what overlap i have with someone who likes ONLY melodic music. hard to know where geir the man ends and his internet persona begins, but he's cool all the same.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:16 (twenty-three years ago)

But the whole "melodic" thing is patent nonsense. He's an idiot; it's like reaffirming your tastes by talking to someone in a coma.

― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 22:41 (twenty-three years ago)

will a simple "he's funny" suffice then?

i suppose what i meant was: i like to see which of my loves and hates he enjoys, and how he ties his own love and hate to his "MELODY+Harmony=good, anything else=bad" outlook, however nonsensical or inconsistent that outlook can appear at times.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:04 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, I totally disagree with Geir's "aesthetic" but I like some of those records he likes..."Notorious Byrd Brothers," who wouldn't like that? Genesis, well, I frankly don't understand how anyone over the age of 19 would want to listen to that, it seems so obviously pseudo to me. But that's just me, my older brother has friends who are 48 years old and are still groovin' to "Yes Album" and Emerson, Lake and Palmer, that's what they're comfortable with, more power to them.

He's classic.

― Jess Hill (jesshill), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it's pretty funny how he is willing to accept music without melody if its production and stereo effects is fancy enough (e.g. Prodigy, Orbital), but still wants everyone else to listen to melodic music only.

― man, Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I wouldn't call "In Sides" unmelodic. Melodically different, yes, and highly harmonically dissonant, but I do hear melodies there.

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:47 (twenty-three years ago)

How long does this Geir person usually stay on newsgroups/boards for? Does he leave after a few weeks or does he stick around interminably?

― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 23:53 (twenty-three years ago)

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