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No but he says 1990s + Yoga = (vaguely) association to jambands. Thats what I get with the wording in that sentence.

Evan, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Not sure where to post Pfork gems, so I figured this thread was as good as any. Sure, Pfork has poor writing from time to time, but with hilarious zings such as this (from today's review of The Bravery), why complain?

Endicott's voice still alternates between operatic Ian Curtis croon (remember Elefant?) and adenoidal Robert Smith whine (remember Stellastarr*?). He still sings songs that manage to evoke greats from bygone eras without any of the greatness: "Baby, we were born to be adored," repeats glumly hooky synth-rock opener "Adored", neatly desecrating the most famous choruses from Bruce Springsteen and the Stone Roses in a single refrain.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Monday, 30 November 2009 16:03 (fourteen years ago) link

the front page blurb for that review is pretty weird in that it refers to the early part of The Bravery's career "at the start of the decade," when they released their first album in 2005 (and didn't even form until 2003)

it's a crazy college where you come from (some dude), Monday, 30 November 2009 16:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Any mention of Pfork's bad writing has to mention the "watching a stillborn baby frolicking in the afterworld on an IMAX screen" comment from the Kid A review.

Daruton, Monday, 30 November 2009 16:27 (fourteen years ago) link

Pretty sure that would just make every post on this thread harder and more confusing to read

I AGREE WITH THE COSMETIC SURGERY (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 November 2009 16:37 (fourteen years ago) link

I c wat u did dere

Daruton, Monday, 30 November 2009 16:41 (fourteen years ago) link

man would it kill them to review a song that they either love or hate?

brutt fartve (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 November 2009 16:53 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh, most songs that exist on earth are just OK

mooncup journey to vaja (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 November 2009 17:05 (fourteen years ago) link

that's the problem with "song reviews"

omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Monday, 30 November 2009 18:24 (fourteen years ago) link

anytime I've written for an outlet that does number or letter grades I get really tired of slapping Bs and Cs or 6s and 7s on stuff all the time but honestly that's just how it is

it's a crazy college where you come from (some dude), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:04 (fourteen years ago) link

nah song reviews are awesome, and I'm not saying the score's what matters but seeing 7 7 6 6 6 6 7 8 7 7 6 6 6 5 6 7 7 7 doesn't make me want to click on them. Whiney's (and xp some dude) right though, which is why I wish they'd review actual singles a little more often

brutt fartve (k3vin k.), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:05 (fourteen years ago) link

the thing about reducing everything to numbers is that it ultimately does feel pretty reductive

it's a crazy college where you come from (some dude), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

anytime I've written for an outlet that does number or letter grades I get really tired of slapping Bs and Cs or 6s and 7s on stuff all the time but honestly that's just how it is

This is a music writing truthbomb.

I AGREE WITH THE COSMETIC SURGERY (DJ Mencap), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

I miss SPIN's old red-yellow-green system

da croupier, Monday, 30 November 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

would be especially good for song reviews. worth your time, not worth your time, maybe if you've got a boner for this act

da croupier, Monday, 30 November 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

The problem with PFM is that even when the blurbs say worth your time, the scores would say you've got a boner for this act.

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:50 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm going to come up with a scoring system that tells you how to read my review through the prism of how big my boner is for the artist

it's a crazy college where you come from (some dude), Monday, 30 November 2009 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

youd just give out half-chubs all the time

ice cr?m hand job (deej), Monday, 30 November 2009 20:46 (fourteen years ago) link

hate to break it to you but Penthouse already used the "boner system" for their movie ratings back in the 70s

Gimme That Christian Side-hug, that Christian Side-hug (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 November 2009 20:53 (fourteen years ago) link

youd just give out half-chubs all the time

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kool-aid dudes get drank up, totally (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 November 2009 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

stop picturing my penis whiney

ice cr?m hand job (deej), Monday, 30 November 2009 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

deej it saddens me that you think there's not a single contemporary artist that gets my fanboy dick fully erect

it's a crazy college where you come from (some dude), Monday, 30 November 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

some dude and deej, honest question.

Pick one: who is your favorite artist of all time who is still releasing records that you care about?

throw some deej on that bitch (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 November 2009 21:46 (fourteen years ago) link

sonic youth

it's a crazy college where you come from (some dude), Monday, 30 November 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

good answer

throw some deej on that bitch (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 November 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Neil Young

Gimme That Christian Side-hug, that Christian Side-hug (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

dj quik. hopefully sade.

ice cr?m hand job (deej), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Ghostface

Gimme That Christian Side-hug, that Christian Side-hug (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Ghostface is my #2 after the Melvins fwiw

throw some deej on that bitch (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 30 November 2009 22:27 (fourteen years ago) link

from the 2009 readers' poll:

Trend You Wish Would Go Away:

* Afropop indie (Dirty Projectors, Fool's Gold, Abe Vigoda)

abe vigoda? i've only heard the new ep and seen them live but i really don't see the 'afropop' connection

also wikipedia says that they're a 'tropical punk' band.. am i missing something? are their earlier releases more world-music inspired?

WILLIM GARLOS CILLIAMS (Future_Perfect), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

that is what they referred to themselves as around the time of their first record iirc

omaha deserved 311 (call all destroyer), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

yeah they use to sound like 'tropical punk' and now they sound like 'shitty post-punk.' neither versions of the band are really any good tbh.

brooklyn we go ham (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

WILLIM GARLOS CILLIAMS (Future_Perfect), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

crits of afropop indie are mainly people informing others that they heard african music before any indie motherfuckers did

rap band (schlump), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i'm sad to hear that pitchfork readers wish dirty projectors would go away :'(

brooklyn we go ham (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:00 (fourteen years ago) link

I'm sad that p4k failed to list the Jesus Lizard under the best reunion and best live show categories. Mind-boggling.

scott pgwp (pgwp), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:16 (fourteen years ago) link

Seriously. I knew it would be the Jesus Lizard before I even got there, but they were missing!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I haven't thought about my year-end favorite albums as a formal "list" yet, so completed the Pfork best albums section off the top of my head in about 3 minutes. Ended up going with The-Dream, Fever Ray, The Juan Maclean, Rihanna and Fuck Buttons -- in that order.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

Was v. glad to see The-Dream under most underrated album category, btw!

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:34 (fourteen years ago) link

i tried to fill out the readers' poll for the hell of it last year and the options were so limited that basically half the questions were impossible to answer unless Pitchfork is your only place to learn about music

ess-tee-oh-pee (some dude), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I do like how they admit their own indie rock-centric bias in the poll, to the tune of --

Most Overrated Album: (insert a bunch of boring as fuck white bands with guitars)

Most Underrated Album: (insert a decent selection of comparatively diverse music)

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 20:38 (fourteen years ago) link

abe vigoda are awesome, also they're pretty influenced guitar-sound wise by king sunny ade, and they were al obsessed with the konono #1 album for a while.

WILLIM GARLOS CILLIAMS (stevie), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 21:27 (fourteen years ago) link

[and, okay, i need to change my ilx name!]

WILLIM GARLOS CILLIAMS (stevie), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link

you can keep it (-;

Kate 'Impeach' Bush (Future_Perfect), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Haha, it sounds like I would like Abe Vigoda by Stevie's discription, but I hate their name too much to try.

bamcquern, Wednesday, 2 December 2009 21:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i find it's a good name! although i am young and didn't know who abe vigoda was at the time i found out about the band. it sounds like a weird alien camel or something.

brooklyn we go ham (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link

i'd probably like the band more if they made weird alien camel music tbh

brooklyn we go ham (samosa gibreel), Wednesday, 2 December 2009 21:57 (fourteen years ago) link


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