gonna go in with some electrik red antecedent youtubes now (aka some of my favourite songs ever)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBqOFMaIpHc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rsu93Uw9m9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9B3aqpaxaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkrSdfwgrV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30ld7XSiWn4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9OLmPRt0w8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VQJ0Cs_Gmk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR4Jan8duO4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HKWeAdmSHbA
― lex pretend, Monday, 23 November 2009 16:44 (sixteen years ago)
One vaguely similar R&B album is Mya's Mood Ring, which I think covers similar ground thematically.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvi1ne27s_M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ZnqCuaSu6I&feature=player_embedded
― Tim F, Monday, 23 November 2009 17:04 (sixteen years ago)
yes, that mya album! every time i play it i fixate on a different track. today - "taste this"
get ready cuz a three-six-oh's about to go down...
― lex pretend, Monday, 23 November 2009 18:23 (sixteen years ago)
for they call me a silent storm...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXKo8sm2SLs
no more running, no more hidingcuz my crazy ass will find you and get you back...
― lex pretend, Monday, 23 November 2009 18:29 (sixteen years ago)
i didn't know she went by a last name! wha
― oops i accidentally made it personal (surm), Monday, 23 November 2009 18:38 (sixteen years ago)
whats that mya track that samples shuggie otis? a jam imo
― ice cr?m hand job (deej), Monday, 23 November 2009 22:04 (sixteen years ago)
"things come and go"! with sean paul! i LOVE that song.
― lex pretend, Monday, 23 November 2009 23:38 (sixteen years ago)
tim f's review on pfork today
― just sayin, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 10:26 (sixteen years ago)
great review!
― k3vin k., Tuesday, 8 December 2009 14:07 (sixteen years ago)
Now, cue the P4K masses to jump on board the bandwagon, rendering Electrik Red the #1 indie sensation of 2010! Next gig = Opening for Grizzly Bear + Solange in February.
Forreal, though. Great review, Tim.
― wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 18:46 (sixteen years ago)
Maybe they've changed things, but I think it's inexcusable for an 8.2 review to be listed fourth on the page, regardless of likely audience interest. Usually, IIRC, you have the featured review (score is irrelevant), then a neutral listing the albums according to the score they received.
My fave line: "If that sounds like a criticism, it's not meant to be: Electrik Red understand that we don't know what we want even when we sound like we do; if they seem to conflate love and sex a little too freely, well, life's like that when the going's good."
― a coffee machine in an office (dabug), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 20:18 (sixteen years ago)
That was my favourite line to write actualy - the idea of a certain confusion between lust and romance is pretty important to my relationship to the album.
When I made it album of the week on our show (I naturally got to choose for R&B week), one of the co-panellists Mia (who is into metal, mainly) complained about how much the album seemed to focus on losing control, "giving it up" basically. (for contrast, she'd adored "He Ain't Wit' Me Now (Tho)" when I introduced it to her)
And I went on this long rant about the importance of not really being in control sexually and emotionally, and how real to life this felt to me, before suddenly thinking "oh wow I have just revealed way to much of myself on television!" I haven't watched the episode back but there's probably even a "penny drops" moment when you can see it in my eyes.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:00 (sixteen years ago)
the importance of not really being in control sexually and emotionally, and how real to life this felt to me
Yeah, this is one of those things that I take for granted and colours why I like the album as much as I do. And I've just sort of assumed that it is a common understanding, except when I try to pitch Electrik Red to friends of mine and use this as a selling point it seems to be a sticking point instead, frequently.
― wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:44 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah it hadn't really occurred to me until I had this debate with Mia how a lot of people place a lot of emphasis on the R&B they like sounding confident, swaggering, etc. and feel uncomfortable with stuff that doesn't sound like that - like "Crazy In Love" may strictly speaking be saying similar things lyrically but Beyonce never actually sounds like she's not in control.
― Tim F, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 21:47 (sixteen years ago)
What's the name of the show, Tim? Is it on http://pitchfork.com/tv/ ?
― Chris, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 22:10 (sixteen years ago)
http://dancingaboutarchitecturetv.blogspot.com/
― Tim F, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 22:13 (sixteen years ago)
Excellent! Thanks Tim.
― Chris, Tuesday, 8 December 2009 22:18 (sixteen years ago)
mmm but don't electrik red always seem to own their lack of control? like, they submit to it, but that's a conscious decision in the first place...i don't feel they're ever powerless against their emotions, even on the "bed rest"/"devotion" tracks.
(nb haven't read tim's piece as am doing my own this week - can't wait to read it once i've filed)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:32 (sixteen years ago)
i think there are times when submissiveness does rub the rong way tho, 'cater 2 u' was pretty awful although maybe it would have been easier to stomach if the music had made it ... i dunno. im not even sure what the music could do other than make it ironic. at best it could be one of those songs where you would be like "super catchy but kinda uncomfortable"
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:35 (sixteen years ago)
"cater 2 u" was weird because it was uncomfortably submissive but also not remotely convincing
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:36 (sixteen years ago)
Of course it's a conscious decision to submit, but that's where the power of it comes from. Would it make more sense if I rephrased Tim's "importance of not really being in control sexually and emotionally" --> "relinquishment of control sexually"? The possibly of power and control in the loss of it is something that plays out strangely and differently for a lot of people, and that is (to some extent) what ER traffic in - the Ashlee Simpson "La La" thing. I relinquish sexual control because I choose to do so, and in doing so, retain control. And like Ashlee, I think the bluster is in part to disguise the fact that emotions can and do get the better of them on occasion (viz. So Good, Friend Lover, etc.).
The supremely confident and swaggery tracks are as much about convincing yourself/themselves as they are about flaunting their strength, no? I mean, there's a performative aspect to all of the "I'm the shit, with this shit."
― wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:41 (sixteen years ago)
RE: Cater 2 U...I think there's a distinction that I'm having trouble fleshing out between straight-up submissive/servile stuff like that vs. what ER and others do. Need to give C2U a spin first - haven't heard it in forever.
― wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:43 (sixteen years ago)
I don't think this is actually true, PF seems to give top billing to pans and so-so reviews of high profile albums with good small albums getting lower billing all the time. And I think that's fine, their responsibility is to run accurate reviews and praise what deserves to be praised, not make sure it has optimal browser window real estate or give every good thing "best new music" branding (plus it's not even a matter of "likely audience interest" -- the ER album was a commercial flop and probably sold less than a lot of indie bands covered by PF).
― radric in manehattan (some dude), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:49 (sixteen years ago)
OH NO IT'S THE 4TH ONE LISTED
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:50 (sixteen years ago)
Lex I think the idea of electrik red owning their lack of control is exactly what i was hoping to get across!
Agree re "Cater 2 U" btw.
One thing I like about Mya, and why she reminds me of Electrik Red, is how she plays with similar issues of control and its loss - tracks like "That's Why I Wanna Fight" and "Why You Gotta Look So Good" have a similar sense of honesty about how complex sexual politics can get and how often that's what fuels desire.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 00:53 (sixteen years ago)
i agree, but i can't imagine mya ever being as brassy or forward as electrik red - even on "whatever bitch" she's pretty coy.
(wasn't referring to your rvw - haven't read it as i make a point of not reading other pieces on any act that i'm writing one on...)
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:03 (sixteen years ago)
NaomiER RT @BinkieER: d'angelo how does it feel video has got to be the most erotic video ever made . paul hunter is the man - TOT!5 minutes ago from UberTwitter
BinkieER @NaomiER tot. if he could have just panned down a hair more . NOODLETIME 4 minutes ago from web in reply to NaomiER
wkiw these girls so much!
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 01:08 (sixteen years ago)
Yeah I meant more that I suspect we're 100% in agreement on this issue.
These girls are so great.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:01 (sixteen years ago)
And, though it's been said before, 50% Canadian. ;)
― wrapped up, packed up, ribbon with a donk on it (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 02:04 (sixteen years ago)
― unicorn strapped with a unabomb (deej), Tuesday, December 8, 2009 4:35 PM Bookmark
pretty much. the remix is awesome on a musical level but still kind of icky
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NY3yhoQlwzs
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Wednesday, 9 December 2009 05:22 (sixteen years ago)
apparently binkie's pops was in kid creole & the coconuts?!
― LA CANCION MAS PRETENCIOSA DEL MUNDO... (The Reverend), Tuesday, 15 December 2009 08:59 (sixteen years ago)
Lex provides another spot-on summation of what makes this album so great: http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2009/dec/17/electrik-red-cd-review
― lou, Thursday, 17 December 2009 20:37 (sixteen years ago)
Fantastic article Lex.
― Tim F, Thursday, 17 December 2009 21:14 (sixteen years ago)
wah-hey! i did see that article and wonder if someone here wrote it
― Karen Tregaskin, Thursday, 17 December 2009 21:26 (sixteen years ago)
thx tim. the first thing i did after filing was sleep, and then the second thing i did was read your review, which i'd been holding off from! obv it was excellent.
it's surprisingly tough to review an album one has constantly been talking about for 6 months. so happy it got lead review, even happier that BINKIE CALLED ME "HONEY LOVE" ON TWITTER FOR IT <3
― lex pretend, Thursday, 17 December 2009 21:33 (sixteen years ago)
i'm on board
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 18 December 2009 11:21 (sixteen years ago)
yea that made me stop and think
was exchanging tips with a music friend tonight and she was all opposed to the idea of this album, saying "i have class in my taste"
and i was like uhhh i got that drink in my cup
― Surmounter, Friday, May 22, 2009 9:27 PM (6 months ago) Bookmark
awesome
― rent, Sunday, 20 December 2009 09:10 (sixteen years ago)
it should be noted that P is for Power, the U is for Used to, cause my P better than that P that you used to
― the man they love to hate, the J.R. Ewing of Seattle (The Reverend), Saturday, May 23, 2009 5:36 AM (7 months ago)
good post, otm
― k3vin k., Friday, 25 December 2009 03:43 (sixteen years ago)
wait is it a truth bomb also?
― plaxico (I know, right?), Friday, 25 December 2009 13:23 (sixteen years ago)
Electrik Red 2010:
New track called "Touch Me"
http://limelinx.com/files/4d07a75939252d288ac33095d0ccc183
Apparently Tricky and Terius aren't on duty here? Not sure if there's been a split or if this is just a one-off or what...Can lightning in a bottle be captured twice?
― Alex in Montreal, Saturday, 2 January 2010 03:16 (sixteen years ago)
any idea who produced this?
― quoth tuom (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 January 2010 03:43 (sixteen years ago)
Nah, but the links on blogs etc. all suggest that it is not Radio Killa etc. Also scuttlebutt says that Def Jam aren't behind a second album, but this is nothing credible - just the blogs. The girls all just did a big push on twitter promoting the album and each other and The-Dream, so I have no clue what's up.
― Alex in Montreal, Sunday, 3 January 2010 04:57 (sixteen years ago)
love these girls but really hope dream/tricky/los are behind the next album
― quoth tuom (k3vin k.), Sunday, 3 January 2010 05:00 (sixteen years ago)
Me too! They are a TEAM. I don't know why they wouldn't be. Terius has his fingers in many pies, but he wouldn't ditch the girls, would he?
Otherwise all we have to look forward to in 2010 is Ciara and Milian. :S
― Alex in Montreal, Sunday, 3 January 2010 05:02 (sixteen years ago)
BinkieER Yah trick yaaah about 4 hours ago from UberTwitter
― stupid fruity crazy swag crew jumpin in yo thread (The Reverend), Saturday, 16 January 2010 12:34 (sixteen years ago)
haha shit!
― plaxico (I know, right?), Saturday, 16 January 2010 20:03 (sixteen years ago)
maybe i'm just pessimistic because of historically how careers tend to go in R&B after selling as few records as ER did, but i wouldn't be surprised if they never get to make another album, w/ or w/o The-Dream's help
― shart shart shart shart shart hey guys is this still funny? shart sh (some dude), Sunday, 17 January 2010 04:33 (sixteen years ago)
sad, but true
― stupid fruity crazy swag crew jumpin in yo thread (The Reverend), Sunday, 17 January 2010 22:52 (sixteen years ago)
I'm just bumping this to remind people to vote for ER in the ilx poll: !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~~~FINALLY - 2009 ILX Albums 'n' Trax Poll voting thread ahoy~~~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (ballots due Jan 22)
― autotuna fish (Tape Store), Monday, 18 January 2010 20:29 (sixteen years ago)
i overdosed on this rec and only so good is really year end for me, but im pretty sure it was 2008 when i was diggin on it so...
― plaxico (I know, right?), Monday, 18 January 2010 20:33 (sixteen years ago)