I haven't been sweary to anybody yet, and I think the closest I got to rudeness was my overly facetious attitude to the first Q I saw Roger F. post, but I know that I've gone crassly stomping into some threads with a HERE'S MY OPINION negative attitude, threads that maybe I should just have ignored (eg Postcard Bands) - it's just that with some -ve opinions that have burnt a hole in your mind for 20 years or so, the chance to publicly vent them is jumped on! And often, as I tried to touch upon in a recent thread, I think music you hate can be as 'important' as music you love.
I get annoyed when people come to ILM and go 'oh ILM thinks this' and 'ILM thinks that', but only because in my eyes if you post to ILM you're part of it (also because they're usually dead wrong)
I'm probably guilty of what Tom has described there - but, when you first start trawling around these parts, you do come to thinking that there are certain attitudes which are a kind of 'ILM aesthetic' (eg, very broadly, the 'pop' over 'rock' idea, sophisticated dismissals of certain difficult-to-define ideas/attitudes which are 'naive' or CLOSE_YR_EYES_MARKS 'rockist' OPEN_EYES_AND_RELAX, an unequivocal celebration of wide-ranging eclecticism etc.)
I stumbled into this forum because I had for months already been going through a phase of obsessive re-interest in a particular musical period and its meaning to me, and googling a genre term led me here - but it has already become (disturbingly) addictive to keep reading these boards, and I really don't want anything bad to happen to them.I have been wondering over the last couple of weeks whether I'm capable of having an interesting opinion on anything - but having just read Tom's last sentence, maybe I'll try to adopt that attitude.
― Ray M (rdmanston), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 10:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
should have been '....learn enough to paddle in deeper waters' or some equally inventive non-writer cliché.
― Ray M (rdmanston), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 10:16 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 13:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
― gareth (gareth), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 13:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ray M (rdmanston), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 13:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Roger Fascist, Tuesday, 27 August 2002 14:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
― maura (maura), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 14:49 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave q fan club (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 14:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― robin (robin), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 27 August 2002 16:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
I've never seen such pointed obsessiveness, opinion bashing, "ultimate decisions" (all this C/D and S/D shite), and the like -- quite the opposite of an informed, developing discussion of music. This thing should be called "I Stalk Music".
― mosurock (mosurock), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 15:44 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:00 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Neudonym, Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:05 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:11 (twenty-one years ago) link
― mark s (mark s), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:22 (twenty-one years ago) link
heh, we've even talked abt how 'circular' the threads get.
I enjoy talking shit but the ans would be that you never know: a common topic will be explored differently by someone new...there might some interesting things when you least expect. and then you can get into flame wars...all good fun.
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Wednesday, 5 March 2003 16:28 (twenty-one years ago) link