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First Starbucks and now Matoses! What neighborhood did you end up picking?

Also, Da Na Not!, is your screen name the guitar line from Helmet's "Unsung"

― Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

I knew Sam left MNT but...you guys are making funnies about the other music editor change-ups, right? RIGHT?

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:18 (eighteen years ago) link

i have accepted a well-paid position on burmese public radio

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

i leave april 1st

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:23 (eighteen years ago) link

boom-boom

no, Raymond, I'm leaving, Dylan left, Friskics-Warren is leaving.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Chris: Park Slope

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Is everyone leaving because of the New Times or is it just a coincidence?

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Having to run syndicated film reviews from other NT papers is making VV copy editors collectively weep. Gnashing of teeth and rending of garment soon to follow if this happens with music as well.

― Joseph McCombs (Joseph McCombs), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

NT sucks, everybody knows it.

Sadly here in SF the SFBGuardian has a hard time competing (tho they DEF. have the better music writing staff - Kimberly Chun is great). The SFWeekly is totally trying to kill em, steal their ad dollars, etc. Oddly the SFWeekly just lost its music editor as well...

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 March 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

SFWeekly just lost its music editor as well...

before or after Jennifer Maerz took over? I'm guessing you mean before--Jennifer just started there a couple months ago.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Also, Da Na Not!, is your screen name the guitar line from Helmet's "Unsung"

It was initially meant to be just a bad Sha Na Na pun, but now that my now former appellation reminds me of Helmet thanks to you, I've changed it immediately!

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:24 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't hate Helmet or anything. I just don't want to think of that song every day now...(because your observation was very OTM)

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Matos I'm referring to Garrett Kamps.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:38 (eighteen years ago) link

All I can say is: if any changes to the affected weeklies are going to make these papers approximate the LA Weekly today, especially in markets like Minneapolis and Seattle, the weeklies are going to suuuuuuck, and probably die. I've never read a paper so insipid and unmomentous.

Everything about the current LA Weekly -- design, font choices, articles, and all -- scream "ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ".

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:43 (eighteen years ago) link

aint that the truth.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 10 March 2006 22:45 (eighteen years ago) link

I doubt any of the pre-buyout VVM papers are going to be the model for anything.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I don't think you can actually scream "ZZZZZZZZ."

― Eppy (Eppy), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:28 (eighteen years ago) link

I mean, the Voice itself is being made much more like the New Times papers, not the other way around. That's probably going to be how it goes everywhere else.

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:30 (eighteen years ago) link

So a national trend of false quotes and lawsuits then.

― Yoo Doo Nut (donut), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:33 (eighteen years ago) link

now, now

― Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:48 (eighteen years ago) link

east bay express still intact for the time being?

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 10 March 2006 23:59 (eighteen years ago) link

if i hear the words "rocky media landscape" one more time, i will eat my hat

― geeta (geeta), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:10 (eighteen years ago) link

http://ianandmanda.typepad.com/blog/files/rocks-mt-well.jpg

― Zwan (miccio), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:22 (eighteen years ago) link

East Bay Express is GREAT! For awhile there had better music writing than both the SFWeekly and the Bay Guardian.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Saturday, 11 March 2006 00:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Welcome to Park Slope, Matos!

― joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:03 (eighteen years ago) link

Excelsior &c.

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Saturday, 11 March 2006 01:23 (eighteen years ago) link

Oddly the SFWeekly just lost its music editor as well...

Garrett still works for SF Weekly. He moved to the front of the book.

― save the robot (save the robot), Saturday, 11 March 2006 02:56 (eighteen years ago) link

In the last Village Voice Clubrat Special podcast Christgau says "...the Dean of American Rock Critics, Robert Christgau -- soon to be deposed, by the way, they're kicking me out..."

Does anyone know if this is true?

― Chuck B, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 20:19 (eighteen years ago) link

The Larry Summers of the music journalism world.

― Mitya (mitya), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

I think he meant American rock critics no longer want him to be their dean.

― Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

wait, you just admitted to listening to a Christgau podcast?

― meth lab for doug flutie (sanskrit), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:16 (eighteen years ago) link

he comes off like a hip larry king!

― ant@work, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:35 (eighteen years ago) link

I just noticed that Riff Raff is GONE from the music page. Does this mean that they fired Nick, or just that his blog’s on “hiatus”?

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:39 (eighteen years ago) link

still there:
http://villagevoice.com/blogs/riffraff/

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:44 (eighteen years ago) link

yeah, okay, but:

http://villagevoice.com/music/

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

my point being that the LINKS to riff raff aren't there on the main music page.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:48 (eighteen years ago) link

they're under the "music" heading.
they'll probably start posting links to the individual posts when/if he starts up again next month

― senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:51 (eighteen years ago) link

...

― Nick Sylvester, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Indeed.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Welcome home.

― Raymond Cummings (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 21:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I wouldn't be so sanguine, Ray.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:00 (eighteen years ago) link

Sadly here in SF the SFBGuardian has a hard time competing

Really? I don't know anyone who reads the SF Weekly.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:04 (eighteen years ago) link

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B000002JBK.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link

-- Nick Sylvester

How much will you have to be paid off to go away for at least a year?

― Scrof Rufus, Tuesday, 21 March 2006 22:08 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm basing my judgment of the current SFWeekly vs. SFBG landscape on friends quitting the Guardian, the Guardian complaining (very LOUDLY) about the SFWeekly cutting into their ad revenue, the shrinking of the paper size, the recent switch to a crappier and lower-grade layout, etc. Kimberly Chun is awesome, and there are lots of things I like about the Guardian (I even approve of Brugman's often histrionic anti-PG&E/pro-public power crusade, for example) but it just seems like their days are numbered, to me.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Really? I would wager it's the other way aroung actually.

― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Tuesday, 21 March 2006 23:57 (eighteen years ago) link

well, I don't know anyone that works at the Weekly (as I did with the Guardian), so if there are "sinking ship" horror stories goin around that office, I wouldn't know.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

are there any instances of a local beating out a New Times competitor? I'm genuinely curious.

― Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 00:05 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, Shakey, the New Times L.A. paper was beaten by the Voice L.A. paper. (But now the New Times people are the Voice.) My impression back in the late '90s (based on no evidence but the Guardian's untrustworthy ranting) was that the S.F. Weekly was a money loser that New Times was using to get themselves in the SF market (much like the Post in New York). Maybe they're playing a long game, thinking that if the Guardian goes down, then the market will be theirs. In Denver, the New Times' real competition is The Onion, and my guess is that might be true elsewhere at all. But all of this post is guesswork, and any resemblance to reality is entirely coincidental.

(Nick S., hope you're doing well; drop by the country and teenpop threads.)

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:43 (eighteen years ago) link

"elsewhere at all" = "elsewhere as well"

― Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Wednesday, 22 March 2006 16:44 (eighteen years ago) link

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