It seems like young people like Creedence in the US. They don't in the UK.
Most youg folks don't know 'em beyond Bad Moon Rising. They don't get radio play much or get namechecked by UK bands or have features in Mojo and Uncut and that v much. I think the comment about people who know 'em having hundreds of records is true, in my experience.
― Raw Patrick, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:48 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh who knows what young people like, not me, that's for sure!
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:50 (sixteen years ago) link
... what I mean is, I don't know what young people like, not that they don't like me, errrrrrrrrrr, if you see what I mean
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I think that if you ask a randomly selected 20-40 year old in the UK, they probably won't be able to name any of their songs -- and that's if they've even heard of them. Sure, they were known at the time, but they're just not part of the cultural canon in the same way over here.
Meaningless anecdotal evidence: most of my friends (in their 20s) are several-hundred-CDs types, but I think I'm the only one who actually owns any Creedence (apart from my brother, who got a copy of Chronicles from me for his birthday last year).
― caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 09:56 (sixteen years ago) link
I think that if you ask a randomly selected 20-40 year old in the UK, they probably won't be able to name any of their songs -- and that's if they've even heard of them.
True. But true of most late-60s American rock bands.
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 10:02 (sixteen years ago) link
Tom D. are you working around to a point or just being argumentative for the sake of it?
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 12:47 (sixteen years ago) link
That Creedence Clearwater Revival are hardly an obscure band in the UK? Pretty obvious point I'd say.
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 12:51 (sixteen years ago) link
I only knew Fortunate Son (via the Circle Jerks) and Bad Moon Rising until today, when (partly prompted by this thread although I already had it on mp3 anyway) I listened to Willy & the Poor Boys. I can report that I don't actively dislike CCR, but I'm not blown away by them either. I am British though, which may or may not have some bearing on the matter. I really like Effigy.
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 13:32 (sixteen years ago) link
i like willy & the poor boys a lot, but i go with cosmo's factory or green river as legit "blown away" material
also, thread title otm x 1,000,000
― pretzel walrus, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 14:58 (sixteen years ago) link
I didn't realise Run Through The Jungle was CCR! I only know the 8 Eyed Spy & Gun Club versions. I guess I'd better download that one as well then...
― Colonel Poo, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link
Green River is the one.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link
THEY ARE ALL THE ONE
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link
Yo Colonel: also go for the song 'Ramble Tamble' for brilliant uncharacteristic mesmeric psych jam! And in response to what people say upthread about lack of UK airplay etc., Wogan often rocks a bit of 'Lodi' or 'Bad Moon' in the AM! If that ain't mainstream, I dunno what is.
― myopic_void, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Every album has a song you don't notice much on the first few listenings, but which creeps up behind and sticks an ice pick in your noggin: "Sinister Purpose", "Penthouse Pauper" et al
― Tom D., Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:46 (sixteen years ago) link
I put Ramble Tamble (and a pre-CCR track of theirs) on my blog earlier this week: http://pentangle.net/blog/archives/156 and http://pentangle.net/blog/archives/153.
― caek, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:52 (sixteen years ago) link
no mention of Bayou Country?? THAT one is the one that kicked my ass - i never have gotten up from that
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 15:58 (sixteen years ago) link
by the way, in 1969, Bayou Country reached #41 on Billboard's "Black Albums" chart
― Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link
someone just mentioned Penthouse Pauper, that's on Bayou, right? As is Keep on Chooglin'. I youtubed that Woodstock stuff this weekend, holy cow.
― Mr. Que, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 16:00 (sixteen years ago) link
"Not much exposure apart from having a UK No. 1 Single, 3 other UK Top 10 singles, two further UK Top 20 singles and three more UK Top 40 singles... total unknowns really."
Yeah, but you'd never know it, would you?
They never crop up on those "Sounds of The Sixities"/"Rock'n' Roll Years" type nostalgia programmes. It might be because there's no readily available UK TV performances that are easy to dig out of the archives. Unlike, say, The Byrds, where you'll always see that TOTP "Tambourine Man" clip pop up sooner or later.
They've pretty much been erased from the collective UK memory, as far as I can see.
― PhilK, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 17:50 (sixteen years ago) link
i just wanna pop in to say that i am more proud of this thrad than any other thread i have started on ILM ever.
― ian, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 18:22 (sixteen years ago) link
They were overrated, but I don't actively dislike them.
― Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Yo Colonel: also go for the song 'Ramble Tamble' for brilliant uncharacteristic mesmeric psych jam!
also on this tip - Pagan Baby!! total killer, that one.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:39 (sixteen years ago) link
I youtubed that Woodstock stuff this weekend
!!! I have never seen this footage, wasn't aware it was even available
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:40 (sixteen years ago) link
"They've pretty much been erased from the collective UK memory"
Yes, it took a lot of work, but we did it. Skynyrd are next.
― Soukesian, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:42 (sixteen years ago) link
christ no wonder the uk's music scene sucks
― omar little, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:50 (sixteen years ago) link
hahaha
― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 9 October 2007 22:52 (sixteen years ago) link
sad but true
Amen.
― JN$OT, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 10:23 (sixteen years ago) link
i'd got to war for CCR
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link
CCR haters hate your freedom
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:45 (sixteen years ago) link
HEY SHAKEY MOOOOO
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ccr+woodstock
― Mr. Que, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:47 (sixteen years ago) link
ja watched all those last night - thx!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 10 October 2007 16:49 (sixteen years ago) link
"christ no wonder the uk's music scene sucks"
Of course, it's stuff like this that prompts us UK'ers who like CCR in practice to hate them in principle.
― PhilK, Thursday, 11 October 2007 10:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Thinking about what you said about CCR not being that well known in the UK in spite of their (quite considerable) chart success, maybe that's because they were considered a sort of pop band? Therefore not deemed interesting enough for proggers? More conjecture, in the 70s, didn't Status Quo basically become a kind of UK version of CCR? Blotting out CCR in the process?
― Tom D., Thursday, 11 October 2007 10:56 (sixteen years ago) link
ohhhhh that's right you Britishers are obsessed with categories of music and such, i forgot. carry on.
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:20 (sixteen years ago) link
And Americans aren't?!?! LOL
― Tom D., Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:26 (sixteen years ago) link
Ugh.
― caek, Thursday, 11 October 2007 11:59 (sixteen years ago) link
i said obsessed, not aware of
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 October 2007 12:05 (sixteen years ago) link
"didn't Status Quo basically become a kind of UK version of CCR?"
Quo, at their peak, were far heavier than CCR could dream of being.
― Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
Quo were louder. Louder ain't heavier. And fey faux-"psychedelic" vocals damn sure ain't heavier than Fogerty.
― Sara Sara Sara, Thursday, 11 October 2007 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
Quo's thing was brutal, unrelenting riffage. They helped create metal as we know it. Not for what they added, but for all they stripped away.
― Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link
oh thank god ilx is back
― ghost rider, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:10 (sixteen years ago) link
i missed its brutal, unrelenting idiocy
― ghost rider, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:11 (sixteen years ago) link
What's wrong with brutal, unrelenting idiocy? We all love the Ramones, nicht wahr?
― Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:18 (sixteen years ago) link
heads-down boogie and chooglin' are two very different things, my man.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link
amen!
― Mr. Que, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:28 (sixteen years ago) link
"heads-down boogie and chooglin' are two very different things, my man"
OTM, and I hpe we can part as friends on that one,
― Soukesian, Thursday, 11 October 2007 21:31 (sixteen years ago) link
This is a great thread, but I kinda regret reviving it. Having three CCR threads among all Geir's polls for a couple of days was rad though.
― caek, Friday, 12 October 2007 01:16 (sixteen years ago) link
chronicles vol. 1
― am0n, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:05 (sixteen years ago) link
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― am0n, Friday, 12 October 2007 04:19 (sixteen years ago) link