― paulhw (paulhw), Saturday, 1 April 2006 21:53 (eighteen years ago) link
Plus I can't think of many old timers who are into "Inhuman".
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Saturday, 1 April 2006 22:05 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer: a power and finesse vocalist (latebloomer), Saturday, 1 April 2006 22:28 (eighteen years ago) link
― Chromebowler, Saturday, 1 April 2006 23:00 (eighteen years ago) link
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Saturday, 1 April 2006 23:21 (eighteen years ago) link
like you can't like pop and noise at the same time.
ugh.
― eye rolling, Sunday, 2 April 2006 04:30 (eighteen years ago) link
They are probably being compared just because they are both named Kim.
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Sunday, 2 April 2006 08:33 (eighteen years ago) link
roffle
― m coleman (lovebug starski), Sunday, 2 April 2006 11:10 (eighteen years ago) link
― pietro de simone (simonesimone), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 00:52 (eighteen years ago) link
― xgurggleglgllg (xgurggleglgllg), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 02:35 (eighteen years ago) link
― j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 02:57 (eighteen years ago) link
― someone let this mitya out! (mitya), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link
-- paulhw (pppso...), April 1st, 2006.
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Maybe you're right - it isn't SY vs. the Pixies. Kim Gordon may also not be the well rounded musician that Kim Deal is. However, Gordon is willing to take musical risks that she knows may not be well liked - I don't see Deal doing that. I'm just saying, for me it doesn't make any sense to reward someone for playing it safe. Also, I think Kim Gordon would be a hell of a lot more rewarding to hang out with - you'd probably learn something. I've heard rumors that Deal, and I can't claim this is true so don't quote me on this, agreed to rejoin the Pixies to tour because she needed money badly to support her habit as did Francis.
-- Chromebowler (chromebowle...), April 2nd, 2006
ok this might be a long one. here goes.
the pixies music is not soft. it is just varied, with contrasts of yummy poppy goodness and noise. sure they werent as noisy as sonic youth, but whats your point? sure, sonic youth pushed the boundaries - to the point of repetitiveness. i love sonic youth but once you've made your point, just move on. the good thing about both bands is that they have elements of both styles and i dont think the pixies should be punished for having a couple more tunes in there.
as for adolescent music? sonic youth seems noticeably more teenage-angst than any pixies track i know. i'm not saying that the pixies are hugely mature, but they're not bubblegum. and though i know a few people over 26 who like them, i dont actually know any that like sonic youth. but obviously the people i know are only a tiny percentage of the population. also, just out of interest, if they deny it and only they know its true, how do you know?
also ONE LAST THING:
Gordon, obv. I also can barely even remember what KD's voice sounds like.
-- Sundar (sundar_subramanian200...), January 2nd, 2006.
well if you cant remember how do you expect to compare? and dont say it just means shes forgettable. it just means youre forgetful. if she was forgettable we wouldnt be having this discussion, would we?
ok i think i'm done. god i sound so pompous. oh well so do most people here. x
― shut up., Thursday, 20 April 2006 15:45 (eighteen years ago) link
last i heard she just smokes alot of dope and drinks...
― eedd, Thursday, 20 April 2006 16:14 (eighteen years ago) link
― Tokyo Ghost Stories (Tokyo Ghost Stories), Friday, 21 April 2006 01:04 (eighteen years ago) link
But after Kim i wouldn't take Kim Gordon, but Bilinda Butcher from My Bloody Valentine. She's much younger and her voice is cute like in "lose my breath"
― beat happening guy, Monday, 24 April 2006 20:35 (eighteen years ago) link
I vote for Kimberly Rew of "Walking on Sunshine"-fame. The way that song has so perfectly laced every regularity pill and dick-hardening pharma ad for the past 10 years brings a smile to my face every time I hear it.
― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 7 October 2010 16:31 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXogd90ju7g&p=E9AE4D4136BB8206&playnext=1&index=22
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 October 2010 16:48 (thirteen years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMlcb4Ms0w8
― scott seward, Thursday, 7 October 2010 16:54 (thirteen years ago) link
skot you crapped all over The Amps, and called Josie Wiggs the most boring and forgettable musician in your lifetime...how could you? :(
― the production is what saviours her (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 7 October 2010 17:02 (thirteen years ago) link
those youtubers go a long way to redeeming yrself though...
― the production is what saviours her (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 7 October 2010 17:03 (thirteen years ago) link
(this is v. tough/I love all three (deal; gordon; thayil) a whole lot, but deal takes it...)
I guess I'd go with whichever one has bigger tits.
― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 7 October 2010 17:20 (thirteen years ago) link
god I didn't know how long I've been waiting to sb someone.
― the production is what saviours her (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 7 October 2010 17:23 (thirteen years ago) link
I love kim gordon ,she's a major part of one of my all time fave bands.however, deal wins because her songs and voice move me more emotionally than any sy song could.
― nakamura, Thursday, 7 October 2010 17:27 (thirteen years ago) link
I KEED I KEED! ...Although it's worth pointing out that references to the superiority of physical attributes to talent happen to litter this thread with little crowd objection. I guess it's legitimate in our society to say "I like the one with the prettier face" or the one who looks more like a MILF-y English teacher but not to say "I like the one with the bigger tits." Why is that? They don't seem all that different to me.
― Lazarus Niles-Burnham (res), Thursday, 7 October 2010 18:40 (thirteen years ago) link
fair enough. I do think Deal is the hottest, but I also love her songs and her voice the most. I'm just a HUGE stan.
― the production is what saviours her (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 7 October 2010 19:09 (thirteen years ago) link
http://www.collectorsweekly.com/articles/kim-gordons-clothing-sale/
i'm kind of amazed that Kim would so this but maybe it's just wrong of me to assume that she's wealthy. maybe she isn't but surely.... i mean there's no mention in the article of good causes or charity, not that there necessarily would be. it's just in the article where she mentions that she "didn’t want to go the eBay route". it just seems bizarre to me that Kim hawking her old clothes on ebay would even be a possibility. if she's not hard up i thought she would be giving this stuff away.
"We just priced each item in terms of what it was, more so than who it belongs to. I don’t think Kim was really interested in that.”
considering that you're pricing a second hand Jane Mayle dress for $425 i kind of beg to differ on this.
― jed_, Sunday, 2 September 2012 13:22 (eleven years ago) link
she wore a lot of really flashy clothes onstage that i can't imagine she had much use for in her daily life, so more than anything else i take this as a further indication that SY's touring days may really be behind them.
― cute, banned, alert (some dude), Sunday, 2 September 2012 13:33 (eleven years ago) link
i can see some ilxors digging the horsebladder stuff.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkluXV_olYY&feature=relmfu
― scott seward, Sunday, 2 September 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link
and speaking of touring i really like the stuff kim has been doing with bill nace. i started a thread for it but nobody cared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH9oOOy2kfQ
think both thurston and kim are doing more interesting things now.
― scott seward, Sunday, 2 September 2012 14:04 (eleven years ago) link
i am gonna see thurston's new band next week, or the week after, i forget.i don't care much about it but since half that band is friends-of-friends i am willing to dig it.i loved sonic youth when i was a teen. favorite band.but i thought when i saw thurston touring behind his last solo record, before i heard the record, i was disappointed at how predictable the songs were -- that same clanging guitar noise in the third quarter of the tune. just... strange. so if he's been re-invigorated or challenged by this chelsea light moving thing then all the better.
i have heard nothing kim's doing with nace -- saw thurston & nace play last year and i was pretty boring.
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 3 September 2012 05:45 (eleven years ago) link
know what you mean about the clang/drone thing being predictable but the solo thurston show i saw at lincoln center last winter was cool
i'm kind of amazed that Kim would so this but maybe it's just wrong of me to assume that she's wealthy. maybe she isn't but surely
she has a kid going to college, she's divorcing and SY were pretty inactive for awhile before the split. damn straight she needs money
― (REAL NAME) (m coleman), Monday, 3 September 2012 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
http://nymag.com/images/2/daily/showandtalk/07/09/12_gordon_lgl.jpg
― /\ /\ Delete post (admrl), Friday, 14 September 2012 20:46 (eleven years ago) link
seems like a good idea
― tylerw, Friday, 14 September 2012 22:35 (eleven years ago) link
these days I've changed my mind to Deal. Those first couple Breeders records + the Amps' "Pacer" are unique and underrated
― Οὖτις, Monday, 19 June 2017 21:47 (six years ago) link
wonder what Deal's "Girl In A Band"-style memoir would be like
― tylerw, Monday, 19 June 2017 22:02 (six years ago) link
I read some recent interview with her where she was being v forthright about aging (not married, no kids, caring for sick/invalid parents) and it really made me feel for her. Plus the sobriety angle. Her and Gordon had very different lives.
― Οὖτις, Monday, 19 June 2017 22:12 (six years ago) link
this thread is kinda gross though, reading over it
I think there is something highly unusual, maybe even unique, about Deal's role in rock culture and indie rock culture. To go from what was essentially a second-fiddle role in a band that wasn't quite that huge to something where she was the leader/songwriter/singer of a female-dominated group that surpassed her old band in popularity and cultural ubiquity by virtue of her strange combo of bubblegum pop instincts and love of noise/distortion but then there's this grim underside of drug abuse and isolation and it all goes to shit and now no one talks about her, she's like a forgotten one-hit wonder (whereas Gordon still has that dialed-in NY art/fashion/media scene to sustain her and also had the family experience)
― Οὖτις, Monday, 19 June 2017 22:20 (six years ago) link
Deal
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Monday, 19 June 2017 23:13 (six years ago) link
Deal is an icon for me. I admire Gordon a lot, but from a distance. Deal's writing, voice, persona all connect very directly. There are days when she's my all-time favourite songwriter - golden pop sensibility shot through with chaos and darkness. Find me another song as tight-and-loose as London Song or Sinister Foxx, or as offhand menacing as Doe. She's truly unique in an unassuming way.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, 19 June 2017 23:29 (six years ago) link
Her and Gordon had very different lives.they are very different people! imagine that!
this thread is kinda gross though, reading over itno surprise here either
i identify with deal about 1000x more (as a person) but it was fun to read gordon's memoir just to see what life was like for her
― weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Monday, 19 June 2017 23:45 (six years ago) link
don't count out the later breeders albums, there's good stuff on mountain battles and especially title tk too. the amps album is probably her pinnacle though.
― na (NA), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 01:14 (six years ago) link
Title TK is my fave. And Pod of course. I enjoy Pacer but it's slightly too loose and unfocused (sounds a lot boozier than TTK).
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 01:32 (six years ago) link
Fuck Thurston
― bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 01:45 (six years ago) link
bodacious OTM
― Unchanging Window (Ross), Tuesday, 20 June 2017 01:48 (six years ago) link
New Breeders album should hopefully be here soon! They finished recording it a while back.
― cwkiii, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 01:49 (six years ago) link
Thurston Moore pretty much turning into the Sonic Youth-loving Jason Bateman character from Juno is one of the more bizarre things to have happened in recent years. Thurston still gets to hang out and make lists of his favorite albums on the cool websites too.
― nomar, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 01:50 (six years ago) link
Yeah well I didnt start this thread or invite the comparison, i just wanted to talk about kim deal and she doesn't have a dedicated thread.
― Οὖτις, Tuesday, 20 June 2017 01:58 (six years ago) link