Throwing Muses: C-o-D

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The Tom of 2001 could easily get a job with the Guardian, writing like that.

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 14 March 2007 16:24 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

I DON'T REMEMBER
I DON't REMEMBER
IF I SAW GOD HERE OR NOT

― Noodle Vague, Monday, 30 April 2007 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

Hhahahahahaha! You know it! Don't make me pull out my CD's!

― Bimble, Monday, 30 April 2007 01:35 (nineteen years ago)

The entire album is awe-inspiring from start to finish. I remember when I first heard them I thought they were strange, not annoying but strange, and then I began to understand there were hooks in that strangeness, and I was hooked. Maybe that's why I still like the first album the most because it was such a shock going from a non-Muses world to one in which they existed. They were truly one of a kind.

So so so so OTM.

I remember when I first heard them, it was "Cry Baby Cry" (their original, not the beatles cover). I was appalled and fascinated in equal measure, I didn't know what to make of the strange all over the place time signatures and her cracked voice.

Then it sunk in like a spooked strange bad dream you kinda like thinking back over all the time because it makes you feel all weird on the inside in a secret good way.

― Trayce, Monday, 30 April 2007 01:44 (nineteen years ago)

just got another copy of Real Ramona in the mail... mine was roughed up. so excited.

― Surmounter, Monday, 30 April 2007 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

i have to sleep tangled in my families hair build a house of something and grow a mask and something and something i can't sayit

she was my head in 1989. she was in my head

― Noodle Vague, Monday, 30 April 2007 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

u know what's been in my head for like a week?

kissing you's like kissing gravel, it feels like getting off, kissing you's like sinking down into the mud - you look better upside down. you look better lying down.

is limbo underrated?

― Surmounter, Monday, 30 April 2007 02:05 (nineteen years ago)

I have to write an essay/review this week. A very educational thread.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Monday, 30 April 2007 02:06 (nineteen years ago)

ooh i wanna read

― Surmounter, Monday, 30 April 2007 02:21 (nineteen years ago)

He
Wont ride in cars anymore
It reminds him of
Blowjobs
That he's a queer
And his hair
Stuck to the roof over the wheel
Like a pigeon on a tire
Goes around
And circles over circles...

That song's always been very strange to me, what is it about? Why did they used to refuse to perform it?

― Trayce, Monday, 30 April 2007 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

(When I saw them live once mind you they did - and they did Delicate Cutters!!! Best night ever)

― Trayce, Monday, 30 April 2007 02:53 (nineteen years ago)

Limbo always seems to be forgotten.

'Serene', 'LIMBO' and 'Ruthie's Knocking' are songs that most other bands would kill for.

― SeekAltRoute, Monday, 30 April 2007 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

not to mention cowbirds, which was my fav for a while. but tar kissers takes the cake for me.

― Surmounter, Monday, 30 April 2007 12:01 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a big fan of Limbo.

― Colonel Poo, Monday, 30 April 2007 12:03 (nineteen years ago)

Tar Kissers is awesome. "kissing you's like kissing gravel, it feels like getting off" :D

― Trayce, Monday, 30 April 2007 12:04 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, tar kissers is like the epitome of what "hook" means to me. that whole fucking song is a hook.

yeah limbo's great. if i were to like tweak it, i'd add some synths in the middle there :-)

― Surmounter, Monday, 30 April 2007 12:25 (nineteen years ago)

u put cake down my throat and in my face, what can i give you? what can i take?

omg orgasm

― Surmounter, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:31 (nineteen years ago)

OH, and SHARK

SUBLIME!!!

'i could kiss you for remembering my birthday, you should thank me for remembering your name'

― Surmounter, Monday, 30 April 2007 14:41 (nineteen years ago)

so house tornado. i like it but the production kills me.

― Surmounter, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:44 (nineteen years ago)

I'm working on my essay now; this thread has proven quite helpful.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

good i'm so excited alfred!!!

― Surmounter, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:55 (nineteen years ago)

That song's always been very strange to me, what is it about? Why did they used to refuse to perform it?

"vicky's box" is pretty clearly about a closeted gay man, no? "I feel boxed in, home is where the heart lies, etc"

also, the doghouse demo version of it rules.

― Edward III, Thursday, 3 May 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah that is kind of what I thought.

― Trayce, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:53 (nineteen years ago)

That's the trouble: her songs aren't very clear about anything. I mean, they portend more than they limn situations.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 3 May 2007 20:57 (nineteen years ago)

very true

― Surmounter, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

that has KINDA bothered me before but everything else was just so untroubled that i've ignored it

― Surmounter, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:18 (nineteen years ago)

I have heard one (1) song by this band. Because of this thread I am getting more.

― Curt1s Stephens, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:24 (nineteen years ago)

seriously

― Surmounter, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:35 (nineteen years ago)

wat song?

― Surmounter, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:44 (nineteen years ago)

Personal blissful TM fave of mine: "Flood", from University.

Fly, and you get high, right?
Fly, you'll get by, alright?
Oh god I'm high...

I fucking love that song. It is so joyous.

― Trayce, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

(btw thats not an answer to yr Q, surmounter)

― Trayce, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:51 (nineteen years ago)

But as to her lyrics... I love how weird and evocative and "could mean anything" they are. I'm sure I have read her say before that, esp in the early days, she just came out with things that felt/sounded good, things came from somewhere else within her. She was completely bipolar, so who knows where it came from. But I love her lyrics to death, they are such ungraspable poetry.

― Trayce, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:54 (nineteen years ago)

; ) i haven't listened to University in SO long. at the time, i thought it was a bit overprocessed sounding but now i'm thinking i could absolutely sink into the Flooding of its soundscapes. the songwriting is different on University, or something.

i'm gonna reinvestigate this album very soon, as soon as i'm done with this latest hersh. have you guys been listening to this? i really feel like i'm listening to the muses, but more sophisticated. but i came online to post on the hersh thread and now i'm here, appropriately enough i guess ; )

― Surmounter, Friday, 4 May 2007 00:57 (nineteen years ago)

and it was so funny u know cuz i'm standing in front of her at this stage and i'm thinking, you're manic and and i'm manic, and that's crazy Mania action happening, man

― Surmounter, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:01 (nineteen years ago)

*yes there's something to her lyrics/vocals that saves them, a believability

― Surmounter, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:02 (nineteen years ago)

Trayce, "Flood" is my favorite University song; I listened to it three times this morning. Thanks for mentioning it.

I should say: I don't mind Hersh's approach to lyric writing ("Flood" is a great example of ambiguity that's powerfully sexual). By its very nature, though, it's uneven.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

I read Flood as more about love redeeming, than anything - she sings "Ryde, you're my bright light" in one line, presumably to her son Ryder.

― Trayce, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

But god now I need to listen to it so much and Ive no TM music on me at work :(

― Trayce, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:28 (nineteen years ago)

I find her lyrics pretty straightforward in describing emotional states or drawing fingernail portraits of events but that only goes to show I'm insane I guess

― Edward III, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:39 (nineteen years ago)

like "your dirty answer" - it's about getting ready to seduce somebody but then getting too drunk to pull it off. it's really a funny song.

I don't judge people
I just watch them till
it's time to look away

I want to look away now

― Edward III, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:50 (nineteen years ago)

or that other great line:

it's not my fault
it's not my fault you don't love me
when I'm drunk

― Edward III, Friday, 4 May 2007 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

"I'll start at his knees
And I'll end in his dreams"

('Start' - University)

Doesn't get much better than that.

― SeekAltRoute, Friday, 4 May 2007 02:23 (nineteen years ago)

damn ur getting me all excited about University, but it's at the office...

― Surmounter, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:38 (nineteen years ago)

kristin hersh = unflinching good taste, good decisions

― Surmounter, Friday, 4 May 2007 03:47 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/on_first_listen/throwing-muses.htm

nice article Alfred!! i really liked your musings on the two sisters.

ALFRED, you should get the self-titled Throwing Muses from '95, i think it was - that's a Hersh/Donnelly reunion for ya right there! it sounds great too. u should also get Limbo at some point.

― Surmounter, Thursday, 10 May 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

okay so i definitely meant 2003, um, i don't know where 95 came from, like at all. in any event, good album.

― Surmounter, Friday, 11 May 2007 19:52 (nineteen years ago)

thanks, surmounter, btw.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 11 May 2007 19:59 (nineteen years ago)

― Surmounter, Friday, 11 May 2007 20:07 (nineteen years ago)

I completely forgot about this pic. I took it at a TMs gig in Melbourne in '93. Kristin was mesmerising, staring off into a strange middle distance throughout the set like she was posessed.

http://www.memorygongs.com/throwingmuses_1993.jpg

― Trayce, Saturday, 12 May 2007 04:21 (nineteen years ago)

Seeing that photo makes me regret missing her last stop in Austin even more.

― the ghost of cary grant, Saturday, 12 May 2007 05:22 (nineteen years ago)

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