No thread on the Girl Talk album, surely some mistake

xxxpost The point of the album is recontextualizing songs you already know.

song choices being obvious aka familiar is half of why this is so great in the first place.

right :/

i'm not missing the point, i just don't care about this guy's recontextualizing.

there's nothing as complex as recontextualization going on with this album...

no matter what context i hear 'in da club' in, i don't want to hear it any more

he can recontextualize it all he wants

merely sticking songs and bits on top of each other is not recontextualizing in and of itself.

you have to have vision

a vision

yeah except most of the songs he uses aren't as dated as 'in da club.' they will be in a few years (which is obv a problem), but a good portion of the rap is stuff from 2005-6 xxxpost.

and you have to recontextualize it as something, not just lump it together with everything else

xp

but i guess you'll just say you're tired of hearing "laffy taffy" or "oh" and i still buy that. matter of taste, etc.

or tolerance rather.

"This mix CD doesn't use the songs that I like!"

"I'm not tired of Das Damen. Why doesn't he recontextualize some Das Damen?"

"This mix CD doesn't use the songs that I like!"

-- Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, October 30, 2007 7:40 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

this is not a legit criticism why?

"In Da Club" still sounds tremendous.

"This mix CD doesn't use the songs that I like!"

sarcasm RIP

the album was pretty much bullshit, i'll give it another try on a party night or something

this is not a legit criticism why?

-- deej, Wednesday, October 31, 2007 12:42 AM (14 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Because he's clearly not making his music for you.

there's nothing as complex as recontextualization going on with this album...

I'm just gonna quote something I wrote a while back:

Two stray thoughts about Girl Talk's Night Ripper:

1. When I'm listening to the album, the Ciara/Sonic Youth collision doesn't totally gel -- up against that ringing guitar, her voice is just a little off, pitch-wise. But when the mash-up surfaces in my mind a day later, it's perfect: "rock it, don't stop it, everybody get on the floor" syncs up with the stripped-down chords and it becomes this ideal blend for someone like me who appreciates slick new-school R&B as much as dirty art-school rock, triggering simultaneous memories of bumping Ciara in the car last spring and making out to Sonic Youth in high school -- even if the perfection doesn't quite exist outside of my head.

2. So much of the pleasure of Night Ripper has to do with anticipation, but it's a different kind of anticipation than in a song where you're like, "Oh oh, wait for this awesome drum fill" -- because what you're waiting for (whether it's the intro to "Another Day in Paradise" or the main lick from "Mundian to Bach Ke") a) doesn't seem to have anything to do with what you're currently hearing, and yet b) also feels completely inevitable. This is why I don't really buy the argument that the album doesn't have any replay value. It's only because I've heard it more than once that I can experience this discrete thrill -- and when it happens over and over, in rapid-fire succession over 42 minutes, it's a recipe for delirium.

In a weird way, it reminds me of performing Shakespeare: just as Night Ripper dazzlingly stitches together samples, A Midsummer Night's Dream assembles strings of iambs. And so after you've run through the show enough times, each absurd, archaic line no longer exists on its own: they all spill out in an oddly logical sequence, unbroken in your memory.

i remain unconvinced

but i guess you'll just say you're tired of hearing "laffy taffy" or "oh" and i still buy that. matter of taste, etc.

you guess wrong; i actually do like these songs but i don't like night ripper. brain explosion??

there is no dazzle for me here. "gimix" set the bar a lot higher than this..

jaymc, i guess i should elaborate... i don't see any wonderful new beasts popping out of "girl talk" because he doesn't let shit play long enough for anything interesting to happen w/ the intereaction of the songs/samples. instead, all we are left with is mp3 nerdlinger's entry in the high school talent show.

i wasn't talking to you but to deej. brain still intact, sorry duuude. idk what music you like and nor, to be honest do i really care.

i don't see any wonderful new beasts popping out of "girl talk" because he doesn't let shit play long enough for anything interesting to happen w/ the intereaction of the songs/samples.

this is really offtm. when he does something like mix 'laffy taffy' into the weezer solo it's not only awesome, but powerful and overwhelming because it happens so quickly and unexpectedly. i couldn't imagine having to wait minutes or whatever you would prefer for that to happen.

because he doesn't let shit play long enough for anything interesting to happen

Uh, you mean just taking the best parts of songs?

it's the unexpectedly part i don't buy

the whole album is so unexpected

if you like good ideas turned into boring-ass 4 minute mashups go to the hood internet and sleep, er, eat your heart out.

???

just because it's an album of mash-ups that you inherently can't predict doesn't mean you can't have expectations or predictions for what might transpire.

"hm i didn't expect a sped-up weezer solo" would fall under this category.

"hm wow another young jeezy vocal sample, how predictable" would also fall under this category.

i'm saying the very nature of the album (especially coming way after a huge hype over mashups, hell mashups are still big now) negates the whole expectations/predictability bs. you know what you're getting into when you buy this album.

i guess if novelty's half the appeal, ya lost me

wtf. i also know what i'm getting into when i buy a fucking ghostface album but that doesn't stop me from liking the hell out of it.

ugh nevermind

ANDWHAT: if you like good ideas turned into boring-ass 4 minute mashups go to the hood internet and sleep, er, eat your heart out.

-- J0rdan S., Tuesday, October 30, 2007 11:19 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Link

ANDWHAT: girl talk: better than the hood internet?
hotelopera: brave words
ANDWHAT: hes gonna get his ass photoshopped talkin greasy like that
hotelopera: photoshop him into straight porn

clapton and winwood, anybody?

how about you just loop my voicemal over a vampire weekend song.

and fwiw i stand by my assertion that the hood internet shit has a bunch of good ideas, i just can't sit through the whole thing.

I like some Hood Internet stuff, too. Not all of their mash-ups work, but the ones that do (like R. Kelly vs. Broken Social Scene) really kill.

i only even know wtf the hood internet is because noted hollerboard lurker shipley told me about it

i thought that was some weird slang

i thought they just did photoshopping and the mashups merely existed in abstract

i thought that was some weird slang

-- s1ocki, Wednesday, 31 October 2007 04:57 (26 minutes ago) Link

^this

I played this on the way to and from work and ended up giving my friend/co-worker a ride home. He loved this. "It's like a collection" and "This is crazy CD!" sez he in broken English.

Anyway, a few things stuck out at me. The beginning and ending are a bit off. It gets into the thick of things too suddenly an finishes rather anticlimactically. In fact, the last quarter or so, "Silly Love Songs" vs. "We Want Pussy" aside, isn't that great. Another thing is that as often or more as he settles for adding a capella A plus instrumental B, he adds a capella A to a beat made from cutout pieces of songs B and C, then scraps it all for a two-second sample of song D that is never heard again. Lastly, Jordan hints at this, but Gillis solves the inherent problem with mashups: they sound cool for the first 30 seconds and the rest is basically just someone obnoxiously going "See? See?"

two-second sample of song D that is never heard again

lol Paula Abdul

Haha, that and "...but I am still thirsty" were the two I was thinking of in particular.

Listened to once for the 'spot the sample' game. Had no lasting appeal.