The Replacements: Classic or Dud?

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That particular lazy comparison happens because they are both vaguely-interesting-at-best guitar bands from MN. (Having said that, there is no question in my mind that The Replacements stomp all over Soul Asylum but that is akin to saying that breaking a toe is better than decapitation.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

whoever called the replacements "spotty" upthread wins. some great songs, but way too much clutter on each and every album. they're ripe for a CD80 but asking for much more than that is a bit much.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

soul asylum didn't sound too much like the replacements generally. the goo goo dolls sounded a lot like them, largely because they were trying really hard to do exactly that. nirvana covered a lot of the same ground, whether or not they cared to admit it. guided by voices had a bit of replacements in 'em, though that was probably mostly from a shared love of classic rock and folk, and gbv had none of the replacements' sense of humor. and, oh yeah, there was every single indie pop band that started between roughly 1985 and 1990. they all sounded like the replacements, too, for better or worse, mostly worse, but please don't blame the replacements themselves for that. they were just a band with a lot of good songs, an ace shambling-metal guitarist, a healthy cornball streak, and a strong will to fail. blame them for "the ledge" or "achin' to be," but don't blame them for "runaway train."

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

But the gist of the question has nothing to do with geography or guitars. Just using them to set up a tired joke.

― danh (danh), Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:22 (twenty-two years ago)

let it be to start? or tim? or what?

― peter smith (plsmith), Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:28 (twenty-two years ago)

let it be is universally acknowledged as their best, and it's a damn good place to start. it's got the pop ("i will dare"), the fake thrash ("favorite thing," "tommy gets his tonsils out"), the sad balladry ("sixteen blue"), the cute solo-paul moment ("androgynous"), and lots and lots of achin'-to-be-big-star ("answering machine" being but one example). it's the album that made me love them, and remains my favorite.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Stink is the only Replacements I like. After that their songs just go on and on forever.

― Kris (aqueduct), Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

look me in the eyes and tell me that you're satisfied

― queen grungelfzaggin, Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Stink was the first one I ever heard and I'd agree it's my personal fave.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 June 2004 16:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Mark, Going Bananas was in Shockoe Slip. I can't remember what street, but it was a great place. Carol and I were also almost deafened for life there by the Rain Parade!

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"the" Rain Parade?

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:37 (twenty-two years ago)

PHHHHHHHFrancis, I love the band, in case you missed that. But I do listen almost exclusively to the Twin/Tone stuff these days . . .

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Friday, 18 June 2004 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Undeniably classic.

Totally fucking classic.

Classic even when they sucked.

Classic even when they put out shit.

― dan carville weiner, Friday, 18 June 2004 02:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The hatuhz will be made to sit down in the afterlife and listen to the entirety of the LET IT BE album (Beatles reference nearly fully deserved) and then will be asked their opinions. If the hatuhz remain unmoved, it will then be asked if they like rock and roll, or even just 'rock'. If the answer is yes, they will be flushed quickly down a trap door entrance into HAY-DEEEZ.

― Bimble (bimble), Friday, 18 June 2004 04:05 (twenty-two years ago)

classic.

neverending source of funny stories, too.

― Kingfish of Burma (Kingfish), Friday, 18 June 2004 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Classic from start to finish. Westerbergs still a fucking classic, hanging out in his basement smoking cigars and filming himself in the shower dressed as Jack White.

Dont trust anyone who doesnt get the Replacements.

― The Velvet Overlord (The Velvet Overlord), Friday, 18 June 2004 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

what was weirdest about the prom in "saved" is that not that a christian rock band were playing "we'll inherit the earth" but that they *weren't*-- that is, they were just miming to the replacements' record.

― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 19 June 2004 05:37 (twenty-one years ago)

"Kiss Me On The Bus" captures the feeling of being a teenager better than any song I've ever heard in my life.

― Bimble (bimble), Saturday, 19 June 2004 06:03 (twenty-one years ago)

"If Only You Were Lonely" captures the feeling of being fresh out of college better than any song I've ever heard in my life.

― TheNewJMod (JMod), Sunday, 20 June 2004 03:31 (twenty-one years ago)

"Bob's lead is hotter than a urinary infection."

― earlnash, Sunday, 20 June 2004 04:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Dan Perry, you're killing me.

The funny thing is, I also grew up near the Twin Cities, and I never had any use for the Replacements until I was in my mid-twenties. One day they just clicked. I'd only heard "Within Your Reach" -- big shout out to the "Say Anything" soundtrack -- and I picked up "Stink" on impulse. I liked it, but it took another year or two before I bought "Let It Be." Then I was hooked. Nowadays, I swap bootlegs and count down until Rykodisc releases the much-delayed Perfect LP.

I have a theory that growing up in the 'burbs sort of immunized me to the local music scene. I thought Limited Warranty was cool, because they were on the radio, but it never occurred to me to venture up Highway 55 to the cities to check out bands. My mistake. It wasn't until I started college (in Saint Paul) that I realized the error of my ways, and by that point the Replacements were old news.

Also, FWIW, Soul Asylum had a nice run there. Hang Time and Grave Dancer's Union were both nice little records, and the Twin-Tone stuff is definitely worth checking out. And that's Dave Pirner yelling at the cops in the beginning of "Kids Don't Follow," so that's already pretty cool.

― subgenius (subgenius), Monday, 21 June 2004 01:55 (twenty-one years ago)

(FWIW, I did recently relisten to my Limited Warranty tape and WOW has that not aged well.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 21 June 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

are they a boy band?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Essentially. They had a big hit called "Beat Down Your Door" and then vanished (despite a really excellent song on their second album called "The Rain Fell" or something similar).

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:12 (twenty-one years ago)

(They won Star Search in 1985, bio here.)

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:14 (twenty-one years ago)

i just imagine them in stonewashed jeans and rattails, is that more or less correct?

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

they were more of a new wave band, though....We Minnesotans are very conscious of them because they WON STAR SEARCH and the local media had a field day with it.

When I was in elementary, our school had a contest where we had to draw these anti-smoking posters and slogan that we made up....If yours was selected as one of the finalists or winners, you got to go on a field trip to see Limited Warranty play a "Smoke Free Generation" show at the Metrodome! I didn't win.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha LIMITED WARRANTY PLAYED ONE OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL DANCES!!!

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Tonight it's been a year
We met each other here
Here I am all alone
As thoughts of you go on

Hear me cryin' out to you
You said, "Never, never would I leave"
Here's a tear from me to you
And maybe it will make you hear me

I loved you
You didn't feel the same
Though we're apart
You're in my heart
Give me one more chance
To make it real

In a dream you are here
You smile and hold me near
And in my heart I'll pretend
That you are hear again

Hear me cryin' out to you
You said, "Never, never would I leave"
Here's a tear from me to you
And maybe it will make you hear me

I loved you
You didn't feel the same
Though we're apart
You're in my heart
Give me one more chance
To make it real

Give me one more chance
To make it real

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)

those lyrics aren't that bad

― amateur!st (amateurist), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

It was an old karaoke heavy with my XGF.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

And that's Dave Pirner yelling at the cops in the beginning of "Kids Don't Follow," so that's already pretty cool.

That's brilliant! So that's him going "Hey fuck you man!"?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I just love that cop. He's like the weird threatening/amiable nerd.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:46 (twenty-one years ago)

How about "way overrated"?

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Monday, 21 June 2004 17:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Ned, yep. That's him. More info here and here.

Dan, don't forget about Limited Warranty's classic tune "Victory Line."

― subgenius (subgenius), Monday, 21 June 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha yes, I remembered that when I was looking for "Beat Down The Door" lyrics online. There is certainly a Limited Warranty niche that could stand to be filled on the Internet.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 21 June 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

eleven months pass...

Another Replacements show, a year later. I've decided to yell for "I'm in Trouble" until they play it. (They never did, not that night, but they pulled out "Otto.") Bob finally stomps over to my side of the stage and yells, "Not as much trouble as you're *gonna* be in, fucker!"

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Saturday, 21 May 2005 08:45 (twenty-one years ago)

LIMITED WARRANTY
Wasn't that the name of Adam Sandler's Spandex-rock band in The Wedding Singer?

― Ken L (Ken L), Saturday, 21 May 2005 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I hated them for twenty years and then I got a hankerin' to hear "Bastards of Young" and I bought the greatest hits and as it turns out they're pretty great once you don't have Robert Hilburn yellin' in yer ear every five minutes tryin' to tell you how Westerberg's a genius

― Banana Nutrament (ghostface), Saturday, 21 May 2005 09:47 (twenty-one years ago)

Let It Be remains my favorite album of all time. I think I'd have to go through one seriously mentality-changing experience to change that. Like maybe have a kid or something.

― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 21 May 2005 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

The bar we were at last night played "Color Me Impressed." Color me impressed.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 21 May 2005 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Utterly classic. Westy's voice is beautifully raw.

― dame Aunt Sally (dameauntsally), Saturday, 21 May 2005 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Some Classic songs but their famous albums had some dud tracks.

― Cunga (Cunga), Sunday, 22 May 2005 07:59 (twenty-one years ago)

When I first heard them ten years ago, when I was in college, they seemed like a revelation. I'm less enthusiastic about them now, but I'd have to call them "classic" for a handful of songs, at least. "Gary's Got A Boner" and "I Will Dare" have always been favorites.

― John Fredland (jfredland), Sunday, 22 May 2005 10:10 (twenty-one years ago)

three months pass...

I have been listening to a song called 'Sixteen Blue'. I like it! When and where is it from?

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

Let It Be, 1984.

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Replacements = classic

― Adam In Real Life (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

Look at me, back when I could write!

― The Original Jimmy Mod: Kind Warrior (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:41 (twenty years ago)

Thanks; when I said 'where' I think I actually meant 'where did they make it?' or 'whence do they come?'.

― the bellefox, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

The current Magnet issue has a big write-up on the Husker Du / Replacements '80s scene in Minneapolis, compiling and sequencing quotes from band members, other band folk, industry people, etc. Worth the read. Also, issue # 55, w/ Paul Westerberg on the cover, has a good amount of info, if you want to follow up.

Heard the other day that the Twin/Tone albums (up through Let it Be) are going to be released before the year's up as 2cd versions. Even though the bonuses are likely to be stuff the fans have already booted, it'll be great to have the quality upped.

Pinefox - if you're a fan of more polished sounds (you like Lloyd Cole and Prefab Sprout, right?), you might check out the _All For Nothing_ comp from the Replacements' Sire years. _Tim_, the album after _Let It Be_, was their first for Sire.

― scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Wednesday, 24 August 2005 16:57 (twenty years ago)

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