― amateur!st (amateurist), Tuesday, 18 November 2003 22:06 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 18 November 2003 23:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 00:21 (twenty years ago) link
I'm listening to these mp3s. I like "el ward" and "gharidou" better than the first three.
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 02:04 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 02:19 (twenty years ago) link
Check out "A Voice Like Egypt," a film about Umm Kulthum based on Virginia Danielson's research.
― fatima, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 02:32 (twenty years ago) link
(Do the MP3s on that page add up to enough to make a CD? Not that I would know how to do this.)
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 10:02 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 19 November 2003 13:00 (twenty years ago) link
Now let's see if I can figure out how to copy them onto a CD, because I'm just borrowing this computer for a moment.
― amateur!st (amateurist), Wednesday, 19 November 2003 13:32 (twenty years ago) link
I met Laur Daccache in Egypt about seven years ago, I was invited to the Woman's league of Egypt, which was headed by a friend of mine and Mrs. Hosni Mubbarak, and the people said to me, they heard that Laur Dacashe was a singer but she had no records or tapes available in Egypt, so they had to rely on my word that she was a great vocalist in the early 1950's[.] It was strange to have to vouch for a great singer like her, Today finding her songs on Cd are rare indeed, like her big song Amanti Bellah (I believe God).
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 13 December 2003 23:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Sunday, 14 December 2003 07:39 (twenty years ago) link
Today I went to a record store and saw a discount 5-CD box set of Oum Kalthoum, simply entitled "The Diva." It was on the Next Music label. Do you know anything about this and whether it's worthy? It seems like perhaps it could be a good entry point.
Thank you,
Amateur!st
― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 20 December 2003 21:13 (twenty years ago) link
― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 20 December 2003 21:16 (twenty years ago) link
If it has these songs:
Volume 1 1. Azkouriny 33:37 2. Salo kaos al fella 31:13
Volume 21. Hadeeth al rouh 26:23 2. Ghareb ala bab el raga 22:26
Volume 31. Woleda el hoda 56:54
Volume 41. Gadet hobak leih 39:18
Volume 51. Al nile 27:04 2. Nagh el borda 22:56
Then I recommend it. (Those were posted by H. above.) I don't know every song, but I know some of them, and this is from part of the best part of her career. The only possible downside is that some of the recently reissued separate CDs for these may be remastered and sound better, but frankly, the sound quality is not going to be fantastic for these years.
If it's a collection of the five volume EMI Diva series that has several songs on each CD, I can't personally recommend it, because that's a little earlier than I like. The experts still consider it good material, but I just don't get it myself.
Anyway, if there are more than three songs per CD, then it's probably from earlier than what I'd suggesting listening to. I just looked and I see there are a couple possible box sets this could be, so I don't know exactly what we are dealing with.
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 20 December 2003 21:32 (twenty years ago) link
You can probably find it at amazon or cduniverse, but it will almost invariably cost a lot more.
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 20 December 2003 21:36 (twenty years ago) link
I'm somtimes confused as to whether you are referring to albums or songs in your recommendations above.... Or are they one and the same thing essentially? The Gilbert Joseph in Paris has a large collection of O.K. CDs (although I imagine there are Arabic stores aplenty that would have more, and for less money, but I wouldn't know where to find them) from which I might choose.
Can anyone burn a CD of that Laure Daccache stuff for me? I've had no luck finding the CD...
― amateur!st (amateurist), Saturday, 20 December 2003 21:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 20 December 2003 21:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Saturday, 20 December 2003 21:45 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist (rockistscientist), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 01:24 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:01 (twenty years ago) link
― t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 12 May 2004 21:15 (twenty years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Thursday, 12 August 2004 21:21 (nineteen years ago) link
I have somewhatthe same feeling about her as i about classical music - ITS SO GOOD! but also once you start you can never stop so its a lil frightening.
― H (Heruy), Friday, 13 August 2004 00:46 (nineteen years ago) link
Anyway, I don't recommend feeling guilty about it.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 00:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:08 (nineteen years ago) link
I wasn't aware of all the Oum Kalthoum guilt. Now I feel bad, like I'm responsible for everyone's guilt.
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
Which actually reminds me, Rockist - I first heard of Kalthoum a number of years ago through an old anthropology prof who had asked me to digitize some of his old reel-to-reel tapes (!) of middle eastern music. THe thing was, he didn't remember / hadn't labeled all the tapes, so some of the artists are unidentified. I love this collection (burned myself a copy), and I'd love to find out who some of these people are, but my knowledge is very limited. Could I send you a copy of this thing? Perhaps you might recognize some of the artists. Let me know...
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:28 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Monetizing Eyeballs (diamond), Friday, 13 August 2004 01:45 (nineteen years ago) link
Did you ever have any luck finding anything else by Laure Daccache? I looked everywhere in Paris for the one CD that had been released (on some tiny French label), but turned up empty-handed.
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Friday, 13 August 2004 04:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sasha (sgh), Friday, 13 August 2004 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― |a|m|t|r|s|t| (amateurist), Friday, 13 August 2004 06:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 10:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― AaronK (AaronK), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:08 (nineteen years ago) link
I've only listened to it once and I know I really ought to give it another try but I'm afraid I'm not over inclined to 'cos it really didn't anything for me at all the first time.
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Friday, 13 August 2004 11:31 (nineteen years ago) link
It is and you did; but alas it was too late!
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:32 (nineteen years ago) link
x-post: Oh well. I don't even like her songs from before the late 30's, except for one or two. (I think that might be due to a heavy Turkish influence on the compositions she sang in her early years.)
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:38 (nineteen years ago) link
The sounds were very easy for me to immediatey warm to, as it sounded like a variation on hindustani music, yet I must admit that the modern singer was more accessible, voice-wise, than Oum. But she wuz still c00l.
― Vic (Vic), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:41 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Vic (Vic), Friday, 13 August 2004 11:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Friday, 13 August 2004 12:10 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― amateur!!!st, Friday, 13 August 2004 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link
― Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 13 August 2004 20:54 (nineteen years ago) link
I see what you're saying. I just bought the Buda Musique El Sett CD (due largely to this thread) and, yeah, her voice doesn't seem "beautiful" in a conventionally western sense (unlike, say, Amalia Rodriguez, who when I first heard her, I said OMFG) but even on first listen I'm intrigued by her vocalization. There's something there that fascinates. And this, of course, is all 30's material--the only thing immediately available to me. Thanks for the tips!
― Paul Ess (Paul Ess), Saturday, 14 August 2004 02:02 (nineteen years ago) link