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oh, and I bought it from that same store on-line.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Man oh man I love Sennheisers, but I use mine for studio stuff...mine (HD 500s) would shut out too much outside noise for walking around (plus they were $200). But I vouch for the sound quality for sure. Nearly all Sonys have way too much high-end for me, but maybe that works when your music is competing against street noise. Still think it would give me a headache, though. Koss is a good brand and they are more durable than Senns.

teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)

The cheaper, open-air designed Sennheisers are not Studio grade and are made for portable/home stereo use.

oops (Oops), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 17:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I have a pair of Sennheiser HD280's and I absolutely love them. They are a bit too big to wear on the daily commute, and they block 10db of outside noise, but they sound beautiful.

Mike Taylor (mjt), Thursday, 13 March 2003 18:27 (twenty-three years ago)

I just bought a pair of Portapros on this thread's say-so, and they're pretty cool. They do look incredibly flimsy and cheap, and I'm still afraid they're going to break every time I put them on (which is probably just paranoia); but they sound really great, and I like the bare-bones look of them when I wear them.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 26 March 2003 09:29 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...
I got the Portapros thanks to this thread and they have changed my life.


As you were.

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Actually no, I have more to say - this is amazing. I don't have a stereo so actually having good headphones has made all of my music so exciting and vital. I have them on now, I'm never taking them off!

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I had the Sennheiser Px100 and now I have the SportaPros. The Sennheisers definitely sound better, actually for their size, weight, and price I have to think they're unbeatable, but they couldn't take the punishment of my backpack and broke. The Koss are just a slight step down in quality but hopefully are more robust (I've heard Sportas don't sound as nice as Portas).

Mark (MarkR), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 00:38 (twenty-one years ago)

Audiophilia is terrifying, but so inviting at the same time.

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The Koss phones I have came with a LIFETIME guarantee.

sexyDancer, Wednesday, 4 August 2004 18:30 (twenty-one years ago)

GRADO

Holy Crap! Typhoon is Coming!!! :O (ex machina), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

The Koss phones I have came with a LIFETIME guarantee.
Mine too, but how does it work??

AdamL :') (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 18:41 (twenty-one years ago)

When ILX was down I spend *ALOT* of time here:
http://www.head-fi.org in the headphones section.

I needed closed phones for work and, after reading tons of posts on that board, ended up with the Audio-Technica A500's
http://www.audiocubes.com/product_info.php?products_id=319&osCsid=7d9dd9d0a0ae35ecbc1166de7e7016df

They have changed my life.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 4 August 2004 18:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I picked up a pair of Grado SR-60's for about $40 and they sound fantastic (not underpowered through my iPod - most headphones I tried wouldn't go loud enough). Too much sound leak to use at work though. My work headphones are an old set of Sony MDR-V6's which sound pretty damned good for unamped, closed headphones, but I'm not sure that they're produced anymore.

Ryan WS (fffv), Thursday, 5 August 2004 01:49 (twenty-one years ago)

The Koss phones I have came with a LIFETIME guarantee.
Mine too, but how does it work??

I called them about it when I thought I had blown out one side of my headphones (turned out I hadn't after all). The way it works is you just send the headphones in to them along with like $6 for shipping to send it back to you after they fix it. They don't need a receipt, and you don't need to have registered or anything like that. It's no questions asked, just send them in. It's very neat to think that, as long as I don't lose these things, I won't have to buy new headphones for a long-ass time.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 5 August 2004 02:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I got the Sennheiser px100s and found them virtually unusable - I far too much noise leakage, in and out. I swapped them for the closed-back px200s and am extremely happy with them - my iPod has been totally transformed.

Alba (Alba), Thursday, 5 August 2004 10:30 (twenty-one years ago)

My work headphones are an old set of Sony MDR-V6's which sound pretty damned good for unamped, closed headphones, but I'm not sure that they're produced anymore.

These are still available as the MDR-V7506 - they're very good phones - according to head-fi, it's almost like they're preset with the classic eq settings (i.e. high bass and treble with reduced midrange) which some people like and some don't. These should not be confused with the MDR-V600 or MDR-V700DJ which are, according to them, crap.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:51 (twenty-one years ago)

I will say that the noise leakage on the Portapros is pretty high. That wasn't really something I had considered before buying them.

Alba's sound great. Can a man have more than one pair of headphones? Actually, I need some good laptop speakers now that my headphones are putting my $10 Walgreens speakers to shame. :(

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 5 August 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
OH NO THESE LEAK LIKE A MOTHERFUCKER

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I really don't need the guy on the treadmill next to me know that I am running really fast to the Young Gunz album!

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 18:20 (twenty-one years ago)

oh how I dread taking these bad boys http://www.koss.com/koss/kossweb.nsf/files/graphics/$file/KSC50_lg.jpg into the elevator

comme personne (common_person), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I love my headphones SO MUCH:

http://www.audio-technica.co.jp/products/hp/image/a900/a500.jpg

I'm buying a banana hanger for them this weekend.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 19:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I love my headphones SO MUCH:

ihttp://www.audio-technica.co.jp/products/hp/image/a900/a500.jpg

I'm buying a banana hanger for them this weekend.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:01 (twenty-one years ago)

whoops.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:02 (twenty-one years ago)

interesting how the same picture is not displayed twice - is this part of nu-il*?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Adam, do you need closed phones?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 20:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It seems that way, Spencer.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

How much moola(tte) you got?

and do they need to be portable?

Answer these questions and I, the amateur ILM headphone oracle will recommend the ideal closed cans.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha!

I just spent $40 on the PortaPros!!!!

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:50 (twenty-one years ago)

portable-yes

I probably don't want to spend more than $60, which is a shame as all the really GREAT ones are about $100.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:51 (twenty-one years ago)

What about canal phones?

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

what are those???

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 22:58 (twenty-one years ago)

they go *in your ear canal*

for example:
http://www.etymotic.com/ephp/images/er6-top.jpg

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:02 (twenty-one years ago)

oh yeah, I like those!

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

*researching*

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:14 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, there are several choices.

For closed over the ear headphones, I'm going to recommend the Sony V6 which is identical to the Sony MDR-7506 (but do NOT confuse this with the supposedly very inferior MDR-V600 which looks similar). Other options: Sennheiser PX-200, Sennheiser HD-280

For in ear canal phones, I'm suggesting the Shure E2C
Other options: Sony EX-71, Sony EX-51

Now the problem is that both of my recommendations are more than $60 (Street price being between $70-$100). However, many people have apparently had success bargaining at Guitar Center, and have got them down to $55-$70 for either.

Again, this information is coming from having done alot of recent research at head-fi.org which is actually pretty addicting to read.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:41 (twenty-one years ago)

best earbuds for under $50?, i'm cheap, not thatmuch of an audiophile

comme personne (common_person), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Spencer, have you listened to Venice through the canal phones?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:47 (twenty-one years ago)

No, I don't like in ear things, they bug me, my body rejects them like a transplanted organ. I have listened to it on my A500's and it sounds great (they've obviously improved everything in an orgasmic quantum leap of aural pleasures etc)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:50 (twenty-one years ago)

You just hate my jokes, don't you?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 19 August 2004 23:58 (twenty-one years ago)

OH! That's a pretty good one!

I had been in serious advice mode for this thread..

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

FUCK Wes Anderson and his boringly literate films with soundtracks covering interesting music from the last 30 years.

Bring back Jean Claude Van Damme, he never fucked about with music people might actually want to hear...

noodle vague (noodle vague), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:09 (twenty-one years ago)

wrong thread?

xpost: so you listen to your A500s on the road, then

comme personne (common_person), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I think he meant:

FUCK Wes Anderson and his boring ear-canal phones playing interesting music from the last 30 years.

Bring back Jean Claude Van Damme, he never fucked about with music people might actually want to listen to.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:13 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost:
I think there's a good joke in there too, but I'm a bit slow today.

But seriously, they're not portable *at all* - too big and they'd probably fall off since they don't clamp to your head like some other (uncomfortable) headphones.

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

My pair of E2Cs are going back to Shure for the second time in a year and a half. The connection end of them is poorly designed. Luckily they warranty their stuff for a year and then repairs are warrentied as well. Even still, at $80 I expected more. They do sound great though.

frankE (frankE), Friday, 20 August 2004 00:48 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...
Headphones!

I have just got some Shure E2Cs. They are great.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v236/njsouthall/IMG_5008.jpg

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:32 (twenty years ago)

Why do I get the feeling this photo will eventually be a Stylus cover? (I would enjoy the article I'm sure)

Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:44 (twenty years ago)

Haha! There's one particular photo I took ages ago that Todd's been dying to use for about two years, but no one's written about rubber bands for us yet...

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 09:57 (twenty years ago)

I wonder if I want some of those noise reduction ones.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 11:15 (twenty years ago)

They'll improve with an amp, yes, but not massively, and as they're essentially Grados and thus low resistance, they don't really need one. Ampless they'll blast away anything else at that price, I'd wager.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 14:35 (eighteen years ago)

Saying that, I woudln't use them with an iPod, cos they're big, leaky, bulky things that totally wouldn't work outside.

Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 14:47 (eighteen years ago)

Good to know. I need something that I can use in the office AND w/ my iPod.

fukasaku tollbooth, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:01 (eighteen years ago)

I think that might be the key query for anyone looking for decent headphones: how will you use them?

If your applications will be mostly portable, I recommend looking into in-ear monitor (IEM) types because there are a few in the $100-range that will isolate you from the outside world while having small enough internal components that portable media players can drive them (i.e., with less loss of fidelity or necessity of a portable amp).

If that's something you're after (e.g., a good pair for isolating your musical world whilst working or commuting), have a look at HeadRoom's 80 to 150 range of headphones.

Although of the group, I've heard and read the best things about the Etymotic ER-6i (available in both iPod white or more covert black).

dblcheeksneek, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 15:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'm not usually a fan of Sony but a friend has these and they sound excellent without an amp, and may be less leaky than the Alessandro. I read they're pretty popular with musicians for use in recording studios.

MDR-7506 Professional, $97.12

Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 18:55 (eighteen years ago)

Does anyone own/use the Etymotics? Are they as uncomfortable as most in-ear buds?

fukasaku tollbooth, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 19:19 (eighteen years ago)

Does anyone own/use the Etymotics? Are they as uncomfortable as most in-ear buds?

I have a pair of ER6i's. They come with two in-ear attachments. One is made of the same material as foam ear plugs and is extremely comfortable, but not quite as good at noise cancelling. The rubber ones are... not terrible or anything, but I don't know if I can ever be comfortable when there's something shoved down my ear canal. They sound good, though!

s. morris, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 19:40 (eighteen years ago)

I should add that Amazon has the ER6/ER6i's marked down to like $60 compared to the $200+ they were originally. They're pretty nice headphones for that price.

s. morris, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 19:42 (eighteen years ago)

My ER6i's (with the smallest flange attachment) fit my ears perfectly, but I know people who can't keep them in for longer than an hour or so because they hurt them so much.

caek, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 19:50 (eighteen years ago)

i went with the er6i's. i'll check in after i've used them for a week.

fukasaku tollbooth, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 20:50 (eighteen years ago)

Good luck! (And don't forget to watch the "Etymotic Insertion Video to learn more about proper in-ear insertion techniques" when you get 'em... LOL!)

Maybe not entirely off-topic (in a keeping your or re-sensitizing your hearing way? No?), I'm on my second (fair wear & tear) pair of Etymotic ear plugs.

Best $12 I've ever spent (live shows have never sounded this good).

dblcheeksneek, Wednesday, 9 January 2008 21:00 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

So I got those Etymotics, fell in love with them, even accidentally ran them through the washer/dryer [and they still work!], but now I have an iPhone [I know, I know] and I'm back with these stupid, painful Apple earbuds. Blurgh.

fukasaku tollbooth, Friday, 7 March 2008 12:07 (eighteen years ago)

are there any headphones that will make my i pod sound louder? i got a small i pod for christmas and its too quiet. i can't listen to morton feldman on the train anymore. i have to listen to vitalic and lightning bolt.

Crackle Box, Friday, 7 March 2008 13:50 (eighteen years ago)

ahhh

http://forums.ilounge.com/showthread.php?s=0ab7f69a8b1e3e50830e0d289465a278&threadid=5009

Crackle Box, Friday, 7 March 2008 13:54 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

I have separate Altec Lansing speakers for my Mac G5. They are plugged into the headphone jack ("optical out"). Sounds fine. But when I plug my headphones into the headphone jack on the speakers themselves, the bass is waaaaay too high. Everything sounds so boomy that I have to crank the treble on practically every song.

Is this a headphone problem (they're VERY old, actually) or is there something wrong with plugging directly into the speakers?

Kevin John Bozelka, Thursday, 7 August 2008 15:34 (seventeen years ago)

I think lower end computer speakers tend to boost the bass to make up for lower quality.

Hurting 2, Thursday, 7 August 2008 15:46 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

I thought I'd check back in to say that, in the few months I've had the Etymotics ER6i's, they've broken twice. I sent them back for repair when the right cone blew after limited use and now the left one's gone dead. They sound great when they work, but I wouldn't recommend them to anyone who's not looking to piss away $75+. They're so delicate I think I'll just leave them at the office, which means I still need a decent pair for walking around with my iPod. Hit me with your suggestions!

fukasaku tollbooth, Friday, 22 August 2008 10:17 (seventeen years ago)

This is timely. I got an iaudio7 this week and the earbuds that come with it really don't stay in my ears at all. I have portapros but was thinking about moving back to an in-ear answer.

aldo, Friday, 22 August 2008 10:24 (seventeen years ago)

Oof, I've been meaning to get some Etymotics for onstage monitoring, but I might look for something else. Maybe this is more of an IMM question.

Bocken Social Scene, Friday, 22 August 2008 10:38 (seventeen years ago)

...in the few months I've had the Etymotics ER6i's, they've broken twice.

Was that before or after you accidentally ran them through the washer/dryer?

If it's any consolation, my "sturdier" (and 425-dollars-more-expensive) Shure E500's gave way to wear and tear (i.e., frayed wires where they wrap over my ear; good warranty though) at least three times in my three-ish years of ownership.

I handle them differently now, and it seems to have solved the problem.

dblcheeksneek, Friday, 22 August 2008 17:03 (seventeen years ago)

I ran into the same thing with ER6i's. They're great headphones but mine have shorted twice this year. I do have a bad habit of leaving them coiled up in my pocket all day, and have been a little more careful about putting them in their case when not in use. Seems to be working so far.

The good thing is that Etymotic's customer service is pretty great. The turn-around from sending them out to getting them back was about a week both times.

s. morris, Friday, 22 August 2008 17:08 (seventeen years ago)

I recently bought the Creative Labs EP-630 Earphones for something like $25 (I had a coupon from Dell and needed to pad things out to over $100, so I added these). They're a little bass-heavy, but for the price they're pretty hot shit. I've given up on Etymotic after one too many broken pairs.

dlp9001, Friday, 22 August 2008 19:12 (seventeen years ago)

What about Bose, of any size/design? Worth the prices?

dow, Saturday, 23 August 2008 03:57 (seventeen years ago)

No.

Scik Mouthy, Saturday, 23 August 2008 07:53 (seventeen years ago)

another recommendation for portapros. they also have a ridiculously archaic LIFETIME WARRANTY. mine broke a while ago, more as a result of me carelessly schlepping them around forever, and for £3.50 postage they fixed them/sent me some new ones. they sound great, are great.

schlump, Saturday, 23 August 2008 10:43 (seventeen years ago)

Anybody know if the SportaPro is of the same quality as the PortaPro?

Noodle Vague, Saturday, 23 August 2008 10:55 (seventeen years ago)

i think i heard that they aren't. i spent a while digging around on geeky headphone sites to decide whether portapro were what i wanted, and i don't think they're of the same quality. but what do i know? i'm pretty enthusiastic about portapros, maybe to the extent of ignoring some of their failings, like the way they're reshaping my head with the little metal strap. so perhaps sportapro are worth a shot.

schlump, Saturday, 23 August 2008 13:01 (seventeen years ago)

I am selling a headphone hanger - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300253748217

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Scik Mouthy, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 13:55 (seventeen years ago)

http://www.americanmusical.com/images/h/p17166h.jpg
Still love 'em, after all these years.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 14:22 (seventeen years ago)

I've read in a few different places that the AKG 240s are the "reference standard" for studio monitoring. Don't know if that's true, but I see them a lot in films of recording sessions.

Jazzbo, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 14:30 (seventeen years ago)

a headphone hanger.
a headphone hanger.

a gun rack.

special guest stars mark bronson, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

have a nice blood.

special guest stars mark bronson, Wednesday, 27 August 2008 14:32 (seventeen years ago)

five months pass...

I made a terrible, terrible mistake- got tired of my slightly painful, hideous (yet wonderful-sounding) Portapros and went looking for a more attractive model for walking-around use, settling on a pair of Zumreeds (the Japanese ones with the hemispherical cups). They look great and sound like absolute crap compared to the Portapros. Thankfully the place I bought them from will take them back after a minor restocking fee.

I'm keeping the portapros (with replacement ear cushions, because OW) for walking and commuting, but I am in the market for a nicer pair I can wear at work and use for casual DJing at home. Would Grado SR-80s be good for this? I'd be running them off of an ipod at work and a generic middle-of-the-line sound system at home.

Telephone thing, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 21:54 (seventeen years ago)

my slightly painful, hideous (yet wonderful-sounding) Portapros

ha ha. i always thought it was like a portapro secret. i totally put up with pulling my hair out, digging a metal band into my head and crinkling impressions of the plastic eatphones into my ears because they sound so great. i really need to send them off to be fixed sometime soon (elastic band solution amid disintegration), but i don't want to be without them for a couple of weeks. i still regularly notice how good they sound.

schlump, Tuesday, 10 February 2009 22:04 (seventeen years ago)

grado's sound great, and i love my SR-60s...they are very "open" though and bleed sound both ways, so that might be a problem in a work environment.

Yah Trick Ya Kid K (M@tt He1ges0n), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 22:05 (seventeen years ago)

two weeks pass...

Just got my SR80s today and I'm already in love with them. A bit less up-front and punchy than the Portapros, but I'm hearing so many subtle little details I was missing. And they're so comfy!

Telephone thing, Thursday, 26 February 2009 21:51 (seventeen years ago)

seven months pass...

On flights to and from Oakland for work in August I saw around 5 age 50-something and up guys using Bose headphones. Just got back from a trip to LA and again saw the same number of folks in that same demographic with the Bose headphones. I wonder if I should join them when I hit that age range...

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 17:13 (sixteen years ago)

Bose - Better Off Somewhere Else.

Typically you can get better headphones for a lot less.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 18:25 (sixteen years ago)

I use the noise canceling Bose on flights and they work like a charm. I would never have sprung the $350 but since they were a gift I use and enjoy them.

Nate Carson, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 19:56 (sixteen years ago)

After 50 your range of hearing is typically so reduced that it won't make much difference what you use.

Fastnbulbous, Tuesday, 29 September 2009 20:07 (sixteen years ago)


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