LL Cool J - Classic or Dud?

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I want to meet him so I can say "ladies love cool james" in a variety of increasingly silly voices until he goes INSANE. Or twats me

― j0e (j0e), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 11:12 (twenty-three years ago)

he is a great example of how ladies do love cool james's.

classic now dud (although the track he did about booty (i think it was with ludacris????? was pretty cool) so i guess he is classic with the occasional daliance in to dud

― james (james), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 14:27 (twenty-three years ago)

Lately, massive dud. Early on, classic.

― maria b (maria b), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Are those beefcake videos meant to be totally over-the-top?

― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)

anyone who thinks LL fell off should go download "the ripper strikes back" right now

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes, every video he's made is supposed to be over the top.
He's such a little post-modern prankster!

(Jess, one hot song does not a career revival make)

― oops (Oops), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean all the low-angle shots of LL rubbing his bare chest and licking his lips....

― Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Classic. The Rod Stewart of the rap world. Unstoppable, immediately identifiable, even when it's crap, it's LL's crap, and could be no one else's.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:39 (twenty-three years ago)

he doesn't need a career revival! he never went anywhere! he's the only rapper who's managed a (successful) career for this long! stop hatin!

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

I like his stuff, tho not nearly as much as I used to (he changed, not me). I think he does that kiss-his-finger-and-toss-kiss-to-"girl" thing waaay too much, too; irritates the hell out of me.

― matt riedl (veal), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 19:10 (twenty-three years ago)

"the ripper strikes back"..... downloaded. mind unchanged, sorry.

― maria b (maria b), Tuesday, 11 March 2003 21:32 (twenty-three years ago)

Classic, on Adam F's album Kaos he totally ace's it on 'The Greatest of All Time' pure bragging bullshitting goodness...and that bass sound...woah. :)

― Maimonides (Maimonides), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 11:46 (twenty-three years ago)

still hot!!

the art teacher in my high school wz ll cool j's cousin.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 12 March 2003 12:10 (twenty-three years ago)

three years pass...

First song off new album:

"It's LL and Santana"

― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:19 (twenty years ago)

my defense of LL on this thread is a little extreme

― strongo hulkington is a guy with a belly button piercing (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:23 (twenty years ago)

Untoppable as a stage performer.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:25 (twenty years ago)

Extremity in the defense of LL is no vice!

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:26 (twenty years ago)

Extremism, I mean.

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:27 (twenty years ago)

Not everybody can be as even-tempered and realistic about LL as K is, strongo.

― Tracey Hand (tracerhand), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 00:31 (twenty years ago)

I gradually have realized that LL is a really horrible actor.

― Zwan (miccio), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Gradually?

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 15:47 (twenty years ago)

It took a while to get over my desire to enjoy his presence in films like Deep Blue Sea, Halloween H20 and Mindhunters.

"eenie meanie minie mo, which muthafucka's the next to go?"

― [email protected], Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:23 (twenty years ago)

Fools! After the mountains have crumbled to dust and the western winds blow your ashes across the horizon, El El will still be there. Forever.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 16:26 (twenty years ago)

Man, I got the new album with Canibus on it (Cloak n Dagga), and he's STILL dissing LL. I mean, LL knocked him the fuck out like six years ago, and he still hasn't gotten over it. Is there a word for someone who just keeps trying to fight after they've been beaten and forgotten? (By the way, that album's pretty shitty, though often inadvertantly hilarious).

― js (honestengine), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:52 (twenty years ago)

The new LL/J-Lo single is horrible.

LL has been corny as hell for years.

LL knocked him the fuck out like six years ago

LL hasn't knocked *anyone* the fuck out since like '91

― Chris Bergen (Cee Bee), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 18:56 (twenty years ago)

second round KO was so much better than any of LL's disses against canibus.

i love LL though.. he's a pip.

does he still have that skinny moustache? that freaked me out for real.

― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 19:05 (twenty years ago)

second round KO was so much better than any of LL's disses against canibus.

so true

― Chris Bergen (Cee Bee), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 19:19 (twenty years ago)

I'm just playing, I actually forgot L.L. was great in Woo. "Take off your clothes."

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 00:05 (twenty years ago)

And for the record, too classic to ever be anything but classic. Radio was the first compact disc I bought.

― Pete Scholtes (Pete Scholtes), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 15:17 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

classic for facing down fox news' bizzare use of an old interview. wtf to fox's snippy put-down of a response (we "wish him the best with his fledgling acting career")

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 April 2010 01:54 (sixteen years ago)

fledgling since the movie Toys, yeah.

― Jack traded Milky-White to the troll for a magical (remy bean), Thursday, 1 April 2010 01:57 (sixteen years ago)

stay classy, fox news network.

― Daniel, Esq., Thursday, 1 April 2010 01:58 (sixteen years ago)

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1TqQ0rLY-Qo

― scott seward, Saturday, 26 January 2013 00:17 (thirteen years ago)

don't sleep on LL in Maine. might change your life...

― scott seward, Saturday, 26 January 2013 01:59 (thirteen years ago)

awesome

is he playing a school dance??

― xxx heady xxx heady (haitch), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:08 (thirteen years ago)

I have a house in Brooklyn, I live in Queens...

― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:13 (thirteen years ago)

is there such a thing as "live in Maine"?

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:43 (thirteen years ago)

history maine

― some dude, Saturday, 26 January 2013 02:47 (thirteen years ago)

this is fantastic.

― mr.raffles, Saturday, 26 January 2013 19:31 (thirteen years ago)

"memorieeeees..." bahahaha this video is the best.

― mr.raffles, Saturday, 26 January 2013 19:43 (thirteen years ago)

This is rap's Gimme Shelter, Stop Making Sense, and Last Waltz rolled into one half-hour masterpiece

― Walter Galt, Sunday, 27 January 2013 02:25 (thirteen years ago)

three months pass...

what I am taking away from the first three tracks on Authentic is that LL is way more interested in collaborating with people than he is in making a cohesive album

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 16:51 (thirteen years ago)

you say that as if that's at all unique for the past 15 years of hip hop

― bish don't kmt (some dude), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:08 (thirteen years ago)

not at all unique, just... this is so LAZY

is there a gear below autopilot?

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

authenticpilot

― bish don't kmt (some dude), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

my entire hip-hop existence is defined by giving older dudes a massive pass and I've been pro-LL through "Headsprung" so the degree to which this whole thing is just a bland belly flop is legitimately upsetting

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:18 (thirteen years ago)

okay bland is maybe not the best word to describe "We're The Greatest", lol

― Call me at **BITCOIN (DJP), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 17:28 (thirteen years ago)

LL, and increasingly Jay-Z, are kind of in a category to me of artists who've already had such unprecedented longevity that at this point anything good they do is just a bonus round and anything that sucks is like, well, they had a good run.

― bish don't kmt (some dude), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:01 (thirteen years ago)

"my entire hip-hop existence is defined by giving older dudes a massive pass"

― Deafening silence (DL), Tuesday, 30 April 2013 18:08 (thirteen years ago)

"my entire _____ existence is defined by giving older dudes a massive _____"

― The Reverend, Tuesday, 30 April 2013 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

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I got arrested in Columbus, Georgia for humping a couch to it on stage

Somewhere the loins of young JD Vance stirred.

― Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 September 2024 20:02 (one year ago)

It was all a dream
used to dry hump a couch through the seam

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 September 2024 20:19 (one year ago)

Britishes need love

― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Friday, 6 September 2024 20:32 (one year ago)

10 year old me hearing I need love: I was conflicted

― Heez, Friday, 6 September 2024 20:46 (one year ago)

Great album...all the better for coming in under 45 minutes

― j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Friday, 6 September 2024 20:48 (one year ago)

That interview was a great read. I liked the line he said about guys at home sharpening their toothbrushes not getting over a beef.

― The Artist formerly known as Earlnash, Friday, 6 September 2024 20:55 (one year ago)

oh my god whiney's interview needed a footnote to explain who martha quinn is

rip me, i'm deaded

― Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 7 September 2024 03:24 (one year ago)

The title track is so good it’s almost miraculous

― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Saturday, 7 September 2024 21:30 (one year ago)

I AGREE.

― scott seward, Saturday, 7 September 2024 22:07 (one year ago)

Dang this album jams.

― Blitz Primary (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 7 September 2024 23:37 (one year ago)

Someone I know said something very funny on FB:

"Gonna be funny if we have a hip-hop veteran renaissance where making better than usual music without sweating pop is in fashion, until Andre 3000 looks at his pan pipes and goes 'well now I feel like a schmuck.'"

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Monday, 9 September 2024 17:09 (one year ago)

37 years between buying LL Cool J albums. If I do that again I'll be 93.

― stirmonster, Monday, 9 September 2024 18:02 (one year ago)

til Infinity

― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Monday, 9 September 2024 18:02 (one year ago)

This album exceeds any hype about it. So great. For those who buy vinyl, (the Euro pressing at least) sounds fantastic.

― stirmonster, Tuesday, 10 September 2024 21:37 (one year ago)

I wrote 1000 words or so about this record in my latest newsletter.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 15:20 (one year ago)

Love this album

― Tim F, Wednesday, 11 September 2024 15:41 (one year ago)

I wrote 1000 words or so about this record in my latest newsletter.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, September 11, 2024 11:20 AM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Sick, I had like a 20 minute convo with a music writer yesterday about this album. Album is touching all the bases but not fitting into any sort of critical paradigm we're used to seeing

― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 18:22 (one year ago)

Whiney your LL piece was great - loved how candid he was in some of his responses! great read

and the album is so good, i’m really enjoying it

― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 19:58 (one year ago)

Thank you so much. I chalk a lot of the good responses to them letting me have an hour with him. He was VERY happy when I told him *my* favorite LL line ("I'm the type of guy that picks her up from work early/Takes her to breakfast, lunch, dinner, and breakfast.")

― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 20:07 (one year ago)

lol yes

Fabulous piece, Whiney, and your piece gave me stuff to think about, unperson.

― the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 20:14 (one year ago)

that west African guitar on Black Code Suite >>>>>

― default damager (lukas), Wednesday, 11 September 2024 21:38 (one year ago)

I can't believe how hard they went on this album. Agree w/ the comment that the production even outdoes the last Tribe album.

― Chris L, Thursday, 12 September 2024 14:01 (one year ago)

His VMAs performance last night (featuring Public Enemy) was fire

― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 September 2024 14:02 (one year ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMGqTTXCoZc

― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 September 2024 14:05 (one year ago)

^^^ Wow!

I'm gonna have to hear this album. The title track is fabulous.

― jmm, Thursday, 12 September 2024 15:04 (one year ago)

This album, my god. I can't think of a record I've heard in recent times where every track just hits so hard. Like, the first six tracks is just a flawless run

― Sade of the Del Amitri (dog latin), Friday, 13 September 2024 10:39 (one year ago)

I love the song lengths in the second half. It moves along really nicely.

― jmm, Friday, 13 September 2024 13:57 (one year ago)

kills, so nice. if you like olds-in-the-know in-jokes or rap dad joeks, they’re everywhere without seeming like they’re the object of it all. when the numan same hit i was just “fuck it this is how it needs to go.”

― well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Friday, 13 September 2024 18:27 (one year ago)

okay this is my favourite album of the year

― you can see me from westbury white horse, Saturday, 14 September 2024 04:23 (one year ago)

I’m only docking this album points for not being released earlier because this should’ve been playing at everyone’s backyard party this summer.

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Saturday, 14 September 2024 18:27 (one year ago)

Great listen for sure.

― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 14 September 2024 19:05 (one year ago)

based off his appearance, imagine a 40 minute q-tip produced eminem album.

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Sunday, 22 September 2024 06:27 (one year ago)

watching the vuelta i kept getting shown the car commercial with the qtip vox from chem bros song- like 60 times. i like a world w qtip around, instantly recognizable too /old

― well below the otm mendoza line (Hunt3r), Sunday, 22 September 2024 13:14 (one year ago)

nine months pass...

That last album still bangs so hard...first hip hop album in years to keep interested front to back...perfect summer soundtrack

― X-Prince Protégé (sonnyboy), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 13:20 (eleven months ago)

Very admirable of LL to cancel his appearance at a 4th of July concert in Philadelphia because city workers there are on strike.

― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 16:11 (eleven months ago)

As they say, Labor Loves Cool James. Was glad to see that.

― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 16:13 (eleven months ago)

i was listening to some assorted older LL tracks yesterday and was wondering if "going back to cali" is rick rubin's best production. i love all the little drum machine (808?) percussion hits combined with the live horns. i was trying to find an article or something about the production but didn't see much.

― na (NA), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 19:15 (eleven months ago)

the little kalimba melody! how the beat jumps into doubletime and back!

― na (NA), Wednesday, 9 July 2025 19:19 (eleven months ago)

one month passes...

i haven't listened to any rap album like this since the dj quik/kurupt blaqkout album. half the beats sound sampled from a broadcast album. the beats q-tip must have at his disposal. the seamless transitions. the fact LL does not for a second slow down on any song.

"mind in the sky but keep a street level view"

― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 07:36 (nine months ago)

November will be 40 years since the all-time classic debut.

― nicky lo-fi, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 15:13 (nine months ago)

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