Village Voice's F2K

if this list causes this thread to turn into a p4k style clusterfuck, it's time to reassess and then shut down the internet.

30 is the new 20

but doesn't critically acclaimed music usually get acclaim because it isn't horrible?

lol

p4k style clusterfuck

Don't worry, at some point Ned will be back w/ a new link to remind us that yes, most of these tracks have been totally horrible.

the Blender lists when they're saying "We Didn't Start The Fire" is one of the worst songs ever or Primus is one of the worst bands ever.

I've never seen this, fwiw. (And "We Didn't" and Primus are hardly the canon, by any stretch of the imagination, and, either way, I don't see why you couldn't be insightful chopping them -- or the Hold Steady or M.I.A. [both of whom I like btw], or Animal Collective, or whoever -- down. Doesn't depend on who you pick; it depends on what you say. If you make a smart case against a record you think is shitty, why worry about idiots who might accuse you of just being "challopsy"?)

Will still rep for "Food Play," tho. SO HILARIOUSLY GROSS.

honestly xhuxk i think its way more interesting to cover songs other ppl arent going to be talking about

Don't worry, at some point Ned will be back w/ a new link to remind us that yes, most of these tracks have been totally horrible.

Just chilling here.

Needs more critically acclaimed boring music.

to be fair the list has already included the moldy peaches

I doubt they're gonna be throwing in tv on the radiohead or the fleet furnaces tho

Best disses tend to be the most difficult ones, though as far as cheap laughs go that Smash Mouth one is pretty great. That's in part because I don't give a shit about Smash Mouth, though. I tend to respond better to takedowns from people who might conceivably be fans of the music -- or, maybe a better way of putting it, someone who might actually give the track the benefit of the doubt. So I don't think I'd want to read someone who doesn't know indie rock write a "TVOTR is boring" blurb any more than I want to read someone bashing a decent-ish novelty track for being stupid or annoying. (Not that they aren't, but that pointing this out isn't usually very interesting.)

fwiw I support "Bingo" or "Jimmy" showing up on this list and M.I.A. is one of my favorite discoveries of the decade

I would love to read Rich Juzwiak pick some latter-day Mariah Carey track for a 50 Worst feature, e.g.

Good exercise -- get people to write a blurb destroying a terrible track from a band they usually love.

Give ya an essay on Radiohead's "Pop is Dead" easy.

I would love to read Rich Juzwiak pick some latter-day Mariah Carey track for a 50 Worst feature, e.g.

― The Cure for Mugabe's Concubine (dabug), Friday, November 6, 2009 3:58 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i kind of wouldnt, though -- or i enjoy it only in the context of him sharing shit that is actually good, i.e. "compare this great track im putting you on to to this less mariah track"

there is really no point in expending tons of time talking about shit that isnt good! its a waste of my time! unless its done in an entertaining way, w/ entertainingly shitty music.

like, i think a song can be simultaneously 'entertainingly bad' & still not be something i'll actually want to hear again ... sorry guys \Oo/

Maybe. Though line between entertainingly-bad and bad-bad is a tough one. Where does Blue October's "Hate Me" fall?

(Surefire for the top twenty, I'd hope...)

LOL, listening to "Hate Me" for the first time in years and the first thing it's reminding me of is the Interpol song about the subway she is a porno.

Maybe. Though line between entertainingly-bad and bad-bad is a tough one.

this is exactly why there shouldnt be a distinction! bad is bad

OK, now I'm having a Bad Song flood in my brain. "Screaming Infidelities" was this decade!

xpost -- but it's really not true! There are a thousand different bads, as many bads as there are goods!

Mediocre-bad and spectacular-bad seems to be the key distinction here, tho -- point being that it can be difficult to say interesting things about stuff that's just mediocre.

right i just don't agree with the idea that "specacular bad" = "kinda good in a way!!"

I dunno, I have a soft spot for spectacular failures. And not just "failures that are also spectacles" (a la a bunch of Metallica from this decade, though at least something featured in Some Kind of Monster should make it, with full-on description of the writing process documented in the film, shudder) but a special kind of jaw-dropping badness. Not good as a song, but good as an experience!

^^^^^ I think this is how I feel about that Lady Sovereign song...? I spend way too much time laughing at it to actively hate it.

Oh man, I hope "Do You Realize???!?!??!??!??!!!!?" makes it, though I think that falls into the "failure that is also a spectacle" category rather than spectacular failure.

Lessee, Miley's spectacular failure's gotta be "Wake Up America":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdcOKHQmYDA

Aly and AJ's Amber Alert Anthem "I Am One of Them" terrifies the crap out of me:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrN24ErsK3Q

Lindsay song + video for "Confessions of a Broken Heart" (dir. Lindsay Lohan):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yJqDTSufBE

omg that Lindsey Lohan song, I'd forgotten about it

Ooh, spectacular failure, K-Fed's "Lose Control" as performed at the Teen Choice Awards!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aam1pDl8wnM

(although really the wtf thing about the LL song is the video; the song itself isn't as horrible as the other things on the list)

Well, if there must be some Lohan representation, several things off of Ali's holiday album should do. I vote "Christmas Magic," despite my semi-affection for its total AM cheeze:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGv4-jbccSQ

(OK, I'll stop spamming with Rolling Teenpop holdover Youtubes now.)

"I mean, a lot of those songs are just goofy."

Exactly. I'm not having any fun w/the Idolator list cause it comes off too much like the Joke Police. I'd rather see more ridicule for stuff that's been critically or commercially acclaimed--someone articulating why, say, Grizzly Bear sucks than a blurb putting Smash Mouth in their place. The idea that you can't do this without seeming "spiteful and silly" is just dumb. Just, like, don't be spiteful and silly about how you do it.

And "challops" is an even dumber term than "hater" and serves the same irritating purpose of shifting the focus away from the actual argument being made and to the motives of the person arguing.

you would seriously rather read MORE coverage of grizzly bear

smh

you would seriously rather read MORE coverage of Heidi Montag

[retarded internet abbreviation]

Have you been on any gamer forums and discovered the magic of "QQ"?

(because that's kind of what you're doing here)

i like it when ppl act like finding dismissive coverage of indie rock is difficult

thats the only coverage of heidi montag ive ever read tbh

tbh = to be heidi

you are heidi montag and I claim my five dollars

i am iirc

oh hey

you suck at everything, Heidi (sorry ;_;)

i cannot keep up w/this thread but:

even if it continues trawling through a whole bunch of easy targets, the writing is making me laugh, so as far as I'm concerned it's successful.

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is otm. whiney is writing funny stuff, so fuck it if the list is correct, like there's some cosmic list of ACTUAL WORST SONGS you fucking aspie rubes, what in the hell

Ooh, spectacular failure, K-Fed's "Lose Control" as performed at the Teen Choice Awards!

That's a good (i.e., really really bad) one, but I'm crossing my fingers for "Popozao" in the top ten. High expectations!

Here, they can post this as an addendum to the as-scheduled F2K:

Grizzly Bear - "Two Weeks": This song is really boring!
Fleet Foxes - "White Winter Hymnal": This song is really boring!
TVOTR - "Wolf Like Me": This song is really boring!

deej otm