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the context was perhaps a bit off

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:50 (twenty years ago)

that TLASILA email exchange is ridiculous

lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:50 (twenty years ago)

"perhaps the village voice will be cacked by this experience"

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 01:50 (twenty years ago)

http://villagevoice.com/news/0610,news,72372,2.html

deej.. (deej..), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:02 (twenty years ago)

oooh.

Matos-Webster Dictionary (M Matos), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Awwwkwaaaaaard

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:03 (twenty years ago)

Here we go.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:04 (twenty years ago)

ohboy (joseph cotten), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:06 (twenty years ago)

Does this mean we don't have to wish him the best anymore?

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:09 (twenty years ago)

the word "reported" makes that statement of apology particularly painful.

Autonomous University of Zacatecas (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:11 (twenty years ago)

aaaaand....scene

gear (gear), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:12 (twenty years ago)

This thread has been abandoned by everyone except vultures.

ham'ron (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:12 (twenty years ago)

The City's New Gay Saturday Bash

senseiDancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:14 (twenty years ago)

i don't rilly get how a writer for, despite its aimlessness and paralysis, still the premiere alt newspaper in the nation could think he could get away with this in the age of Jayson Blair and james Frey. Don't know the guy, find the few things i have written smug, don't bear him ill will…but I don't get it. Hamron called it correct.

veronica moser (veronica moser), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:15 (twenty years ago)

So you're calling yourself a vulture?

jimnaseum (jimnaseum), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:16 (twenty years ago)

that was supposed to be "…things I have read smug…"

veronica moser (veronica moser), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:16 (twenty years ago)

commence lmaoing

lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:18 (twenty years ago)

wry ott going on = gold. Just sayin'

BlastsOfStatic (BlastsofStatic), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:21 (twenty years ago)

why do i have the sinking suspicion that many of the people here sending out their support to him are actually enjoying every moment of this?

midi sanskrit (sanskrit), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:21 (twenty years ago)

I don't know why the response seems okay to me when I was sad about the Brent DiCrescenzo debacle and wanted him to write again.

WillS, Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:35 (twenty years ago)

i'm going to stay out of this, but it's worth pointing out that the voice got rid of all of their fact-checkers about a month ago. that doesn't excuse what happened (if it's true), but the voice should certainly look into hiring some fact-checkers, pronto.

geeta (geeta), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:39 (twenty years ago)

This thread makes me sick.

save the robot (save the robot), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:41 (twenty years ago)

why?

Sym Sym (sym), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:52 (twenty years ago)

Sicker than making shit up and publishing it?

I'm willing to overlook the douchebaggery on this thread when the offense is so serious. That's not to say that we should all be rubbing it in though.

xpost

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 2 March 2006 02:53 (twenty years ago)

This thread could be filled with much more douchebaggery.

But my heart goes out to poor, poor Sylverster. All he did was fabricate quotes - when did that become such a crime?

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Thursday, 2 March 2006 03:25 (twenty years ago)

Wry Cooter.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Thursday, 2 March 2006 03:28 (twenty years ago)

wroffle

lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 03:32 (twenty years ago)

Guy made a mistake, owned up to it. Move on.

erklie (erklie), Thursday, 2 March 2006 03:32 (twenty years ago)

I'm actually happy that Lookner is actually a real person - it sounds so made up.

xpost - "mistake"

Suzy Creemcheese (SuzyCreemcheese), Thursday, 2 March 2006 03:33 (twenty years ago)

yes, a decision can be a mistake.

erklie (erklie), Thursday, 2 March 2006 03:50 (twenty years ago)

Too bad. I guess he was in over his head? I dont know. I thought the story was pretty boring personally, I just didn't care about the topic enough to read the whole thing, but it sucks that this happened. Hopefully he'll learn from this.

D.J. Short (D.J.), Thursday, 2 March 2006 03:54 (twenty years ago)

geeta otm.

also, i just read that piece today and was thinkinga posting here about it, or on ile rather. it does have the "too-good-to-be-true" shattered glass vibe, but less in a set-piece sort of way and more in a "naah he's blowing everything waaay out of proportion" sorta way.

perhaps nick was making a statement about the new management (i.e. "burning down my masters house"?)

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 March 2006 03:57 (twenty years ago)

this is what you get for talking shit about WEEZER, dicknose!

chaki (chaki), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:00 (twenty years ago)

on the other hand that cocks and dolls blog response doesn't really say anything incriminating...

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:02 (twenty years ago)

monkeyfishing

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:03 (twenty years ago)

i'm trying to think of any lifestyle/fluffpiece feature writers where this sort of thing didn't end up really really helping their careers - it certain helped neil strauss for example (i'd almost suspect nothing that's happened with how this has played out has been an accident). do ruth shalit or stephen glass count as fluffpiece writers? (glass probably does right, but he occasionally veered into the political forum so that probably counts as journalism where there's 'ethics' and 'standards'). suspension = his editors weren't in on the joke, that's where he fucked up.

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:06 (twenty years ago)

The guy should never be allowed to work anywhere near journalism again. Anyone who doesn't understand why doesn't understand journalism.

And who the hell says Neil Strauss made stuff up?

beener, Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:08 (twenty years ago)

um well neil strauss among others

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:13 (twenty years ago)

truthiness.

erklie (erklie), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:15 (twenty years ago)

maybe he was making that up, about making stuff up

lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:15 (twenty years ago)

yeah maybe it was strauss, like "come with me kid. . .to the dark side"

noizem duke (noize duke), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:17 (twenty years ago)

Just another example of the lines being blurred between journalism and "creative nonfiction"; you'd think a Harvard-educated journalist would be aware of the distinction and that he was writing for a newspaper, not some personal blog. But perhaps his hubris overshadowed his journalistic integrity. I don't feel sorry for him because what he did, even if it seems superfluous, is entirely inexcusable, but he is a good writer and will rebound somewhere.

harold, Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:27 (twenty years ago)

"perhaps nick was making a statement about the new management (i.e. "burning down my masters house"?)"

many posters here may have more insight re: this, but if so, then why bother writing the apology? why not just say "fuck y'all new times douches" and take off?

veronica moser (veronica moser), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:34 (twenty years ago)

xpost

Did he go to Harvard for journalism? I thought he studied Latin or some shit.

I know that when I studied journalism at a football school in Florida, they made me take classes on journalism ethics and journalism law before they handed me a degree.

One factual error = C
Two factual errors = F

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:54 (twenty years ago)

Not rubbing anything in. Just saying I'd be scared shitless to try something like that.

Whiney G. Weingarten (whineyg), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:55 (twenty years ago)

no lookner, no credibility

lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:56 (twenty years ago)

ha!

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 2 March 2006 04:58 (twenty years ago)

aaaaand....scene

I always thought they were saying "end...scene", no?

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 2 March 2006 05:35 (twenty years ago)

blount, you do realize that the more you neg nick, the more it turns him on, right?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 2 March 2006 05:38 (twenty years ago)

how much is that wallaby in the window?

lil' flipper (eman), Thursday, 2 March 2006 05:43 (twenty years ago)


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