Need Decent Headphones (OT?)

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I've had my Portapros repaired twice now.

T. Weiss (Timmy), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:38 (nineteen years ago)

can we please stop comparing apples & oranges??
I didn't realise the Shure's were in-ear fwiw.

When I find (buy, soonish) a better (small-cup, I wear glasses) trad headphone than the PX200 I'll post it up.

ten kebabs maaaaate (fandango), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

I got these ones:
http://www.mbquart.com/en/produkte/pro/kopfhoerer/produkt.php?nr=qp_805_hs

They're big, seriously indestructible, and they sound great. Not quite as compact as the in-ear type, though ;)

schwantz (schwantz), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:43 (nineteen years ago)

xpost - sorry. grumpy reply, I do see how the px200's can be worse then, but just not (personally) bother'd.

ten kebabs maaaaate (fandango), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:44 (nineteen years ago)

You could always go for some iGrados, shipping now for $49.

http://cache.gizmodo.com/gadgets/upload/2006/07/igrado.jpg

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:51 (nineteen years ago)

wow, the px's look odd enough on my head already but those take the biscuit!
will look into them (when my current set finally give up & die) cheers :)

ten kebabs maaaaate (fandango), Friday, 15 September 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

KSC-75s are pretty much king of the performance/price ratio

http://www.amazon.com/Koss-KSC75-Portable-Stereophone-Headphones/dp/B0006B486K/sr=8-1/qid=1158337531/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-8659426-8116825?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

they sounded on par with if not better than my SR60s when I had them

those ER-4P are very good, a bit dry and analytical and sterile though.

as cleaned on tv (daggerlee), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:26 (nineteen years ago)

The biggest problem I have been having with headphones is general decay (cords fraying, plastic breaking, etc.) I am sure there must be a process for returning them to Amazon or whatever, but it just seems like a pain.

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 15 September 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

All helpful advice, people -- but WHAT ABOUT EARBUDS?!?

Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

Look at this thread, but wait until mods delete passwd box: since i've bought my iPod....

Also Best sounding headphones?

Run Ruud Run (Ken L), Friday, 15 September 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Suggest cheapish earphones (probably earbuds, but all considered) I can wear whilst on treadmill that will block out terrible over-loud commercial radio musics without having to deafen myself plz.

danski (danski), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

I am think about those Koss Plugs - how are they for ensuring that extraneous crap does not make it through what I am trying to listen to?

danski (danski), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

thinking. No more posts now.

danski (danski), Friday, 15 September 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
PX200's broked today :(

eh (fandango), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:04 (nineteen years ago)

iGrados are behind the head phones?? damn. Next!

eh (fandango), Sunday, 1 October 2006 23:07 (nineteen years ago)

Bose TriPorts

chakra khan chakra khan (sanskrit), Monday, 2 October 2006 19:21 (nineteen years ago)

picked up Portapros recently and it's true they do sound "exciting." Bass response brings reggae to life onna iPod.

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Monday, 2 October 2006 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

only wish they were more "silent" to others around. Not great for office environs.

Dr. Alicia D. Titsovich (sexyDancer), Monday, 2 October 2006 21:22 (nineteen years ago)

i (very sadly) mashed my px100s in the car door a while ago. just got a pair of px200s off ebay last week. the joy!

gem (trisk), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 01:32 (nineteen years ago)

Avoid Bose.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 06:54 (nineteen years ago)

Stanton DJ PRO 60 - Great sound and rather comfy.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 07:23 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone want to buy my Grado SR60s for £50?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 October 2006 07:34 (nineteen years ago)

Why are you selling them?

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 6 October 2006 08:39 (nineteen years ago)

SO I CAN BUY BIGGER ONES!

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 October 2006 08:44 (nineteen years ago)

anyone want to buy my Grado SR80s for £50? (seriously)

sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 6 October 2006 09:08 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone wanna buy my SR125s (with mini-jack adaptor and 15ft extension cable) for £1,000? Seriously - I'll definitely sell for that.

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Friday, 6 October 2006 09:10 (nineteen years ago)

I've got some Koss Sparkplugs - really cheap on Ebay (about 10 pounds). I can't use 'hard' in-ear phones as they keep falling out and hurt when I replace them (somewhat violently), so have gone for these: they're like putty and inflate to fit your ear.

I've also got some large, cheapo over-the-head phones I bought from HMV for about 14 pounds. They do the trick perfectly, although have a slight bias towards the bass end.

Jez (Jez), Friday, 6 October 2006 09:13 (nineteen years ago)

Sean, why you selling, what condition they in?

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 October 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

Bose TriPorts
-- chakra khan chakra khan (mikeoptin...) (webmail), Monday 3:21 PM. (sanskrit) (later)

ive got a pair of these. theyre the peach.

sunny successor (katharine), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:01 (nineteen years ago)

They're in good condition - I'd be willing to sell them for £40 + shipping, frankly. I bought them two or three years ago but used them sparingly, carefully. I bought the limited edition Grado HF-1s last year and so they've been boxed away (not in original box) since then, waiting for me to get around to selling them.

sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

Does anyone want to buy my Sony "ram them right in your ears" earbuds for £20 (equally seriously). These ones: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sony-MDR-EX71SLB-Fontopia-Headphones-Black/dp/B00008XYJL/sr=1-4/qid=1160144039/ref=sr_1_4/026-3945335-0330023?ie=UTF8&s=electronics

Actually that is not a very good deal. I'll throw in William Gallas.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:15 (nineteen years ago)

Hmmm.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:26 (nineteen years ago)

porta pros are the way to go.

they cost 35 bucks but have a lifetime warrenty where if they break you pay 6 bucks for brand new headphones.

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:31 (nineteen years ago)

(no matter how many times you break the new pair)

deej.. (deej..), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

I'd be interested in the Grados. Been thinking about buying some, was gonna go and check out various brands to see what they sounded like but hey, am lazy, won't get round to it for ages, £40+ sounds like a good deal.

ledge (ledge), Friday, 6 October 2006 13:40 (nineteen years ago)

Sean, I've emailed you offboard if that's okay. Sounds like a great deal if I'm not too late.

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:10 (nineteen years ago)

deej. otm (see my first comment in this thread, as 'sean tangmonkey'). for walking-around headphones, PortaPros are astoundingly awesome and great value for money.

the only competition is the Koss KSC75s and KSC35s, which use the same drivers but are clip-onto-ear (and i think only available in the USA). the KSC75s are the cheapest build but sell for about $14 in best buys!!!

sean gramophone (Sean M), Friday, 6 October 2006 14:18 (nineteen years ago)

where's a good shop in london to try some headphones out? i'm thinking of getting some 'proper' cans to complement my UM1s and Porta Pros, probably either the AKG K 81 DJs or the Alessandro MS-1s, but i've never listened to any proper headphones, so i don't really know what i'm looking for.

toby (tsg20), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 08:56 (nineteen years ago)

sean you can get the ksc75's in england here: http://www.beststuff.co.uk/portable_headphones.htm (where my 35's came from).

not sure about buying the 35's now, might still be able to order direct from Koss? it's worth searching around that head-fi forum for answers as it seems the get reissued every now & then.

I haven't actually missed my senn's much since they broke oddly.

eh (fandango), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

I lust Alessandro MS-1s so much. There's not anywhere you can get them in the UK though is there?

Any Sevenoaks Sound & Vision or little hi-fi shop ought to stock plenty of Grados and Sennhesisers, and maybe some AKGs and Beyers too, and let you try them if you ask nicely. I've got some Grado SR60s (for dancing on the landing), some Sennheiser HD595s (for laying on my bed) and some Shure E2Cs (for sitting on the train).

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 18 October 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

I think Alessandro does worldwide shipping.

5 dads (daggerlee), Thursday, 19 October 2006 03:29 (nineteen years ago)

This is dangerous.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 October 2006 06:50 (nineteen years ago)

They look good but I don't know what Alessandro's input has been to the original Grado design, other than a bit of restyling and some of that high-end fairy dust. Elsewhere on their website I see they have instrument cables made for them by Audi0qu3st. My snake-oil klaxon is going off.

(FWIW, I bought my Grados from Oranges & Lemons in Battersea; they were very friendly and let me play with the equivalent Beyers and Sennheisers for about an hour before I plumped for the SR-125s. I was running them off Naim gear. This was about 8 years ago, I don't even know if the store is still there).

Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 19 October 2006 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

The MS-1s I gather have reigned-in the fatiguing brightness of the likes of the SR60 and SR80, after much perusal of head-fi. I love my SR60s but they're too much to listen to for long periods, and my HD595s while great lack the punch of the Grados. So I was thinking that MS-1s might be perfect...

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:04 (nineteen years ago)

I'm wading my way through the UM-1 thread on head-fi now - just found Nick's posts :-)

My experience of non-IEMs is zero, Portapros aside, as I said upthread, so perhaps I can ask a couple of questions here that I'd be embarassed to ask on head-fi: how do open headphones 'feel'? What are the advantages over closed-back ones? And how much do they leak/how much external sound comes in? It would be quite nice to be able to hear people knocking on my office door if I'm wearing them, which I'm guessing will be fine, but do they require a near-silent background?

toby (tsg20), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, uh, etymotics are all about not-moving-around total-isolation with great sound.

EXACTLY - and I love my ER-6Is for this reason alone

Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:20 (nineteen years ago)

I'd always choose open headphones against closed ones for home-listening, and in my office too. Open headphones generally have a more natural and open (haha) sound, more realistic. In my experience they handle bass better too. You don't need total silence unless you're properly dissecting a piece of music, but at the same time wearing Grados outside when there's any kind of wind or road noise is just daft, especially after having used some Shures for on-the-train etcetera listening for the last few months. Portapros I'd still use outside because they're an exciting, less-analytical sound with plenty of bass, but they're pretty useless on the train.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:24 (nineteen years ago)

Do newer iPods, or any other non-Apple MP3 players, have decent bass?

Yeah, the redesigned Apple headphones that come with all the new iPod models (introduced last month, I think?) are much better overall in reproducing bass sounds - at least to these ears.

They look like this:
http://store.apple.com/Catalog/US/Images/ma662_alt.jpg

Stephen Bush (Stephen B.), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:25 (nineteen years ago)

Of course what would improve the bass response on an iPod most of all would be a better internal amplifier. Sadly that's never gonna happen.

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:31 (nineteen years ago)

Hence why I want one of these for Xmas - http://linuxbrit.co.uk/gadgets/lg/cmoy.jpg

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 19 October 2006 09:32 (nineteen years ago)


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