yeah i guess yr right, i meant more stripped down rhythmically compared to the first two....i guess it feels more stripped down to me than it is for some reason....
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:46 (nineteen years ago) link
also, "candy's room" may have the best classic-rock guitar solo of all time.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:52 (nineteen years ago) link
Also check: The swampy bass on "Adam Raised A Cain."
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 16:54 (nineteen years ago) link
see: Gerry Rafferty, Quaterflash, Men at Work, Supertramp
― chuck, Wednesday, 5 January 2005 17:40 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link
― LSTD (answer) (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 20:29 (nineteen years ago) link
I read that as "sausage." It's been a long day.
― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 20:45 (nineteen years ago) link
i persist in hearing bruce's clipped repeating of the title phrase at the end of the song as him singing, "talkin' bout the talmud!"
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 22:56 (nineteen years ago) link
Okay, well I will concede then that quite recently, hearing it on the radio it struck me as strange that I didn't find "Dancing In The Dark" to be such a terrible song after all these years. Don't ask me why. Not that I would choose to listen to it in the comfort of my own home under any circumstances, but in the vast wasteland of crap on the radio, you hone your pearls where you can, I suppose.
Well, I guess I plain fucking hate music then.
Well for god's sake isn't that why we're here?
"Yeah man ... Velvet Underground ... Stooges ... Bruce Springsteen ... That's what we're about, man. Alright!"
HA HA!
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:21 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 23:52 (nineteen years ago) link
But in a more rockety-rock song I usually find the saxophone superfluous, if not unwelcome.
HAWKWIND TO THREAD!!
― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Thursday, 6 January 2005 01:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 6 January 2005 02:46 (nineteen years ago) link
strike that
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:06 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:30 (nineteen years ago) link
Re: Rockin Saxes:How about Roxy Music, Stooges, Rainy Day Sunshine Girl.
hey, let's not forget x-ray spex and ESSENTIAL LOGIC.
That dude in Romeo Void wasn't bad either, IIRC. It broke my heart to see him have to watch the crappy ringer they got to replace him on the backstage monitor on Band Reunited
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:38 (nineteen years ago) link
Hey, I've said my piece! The most I'll add is that one can like Motown and Spector without liking what might follow. ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:40 (nineteen years ago) link
not P and not Q implies probably not R
which is not equivalent toP and Q implies R
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 03:47 (nineteen years ago) link
Yeah, I'd say the music on "Darkness" is definitely much simpler than Bruce's earlier stuff. That perhaps explains why all those '78 shows are the stuff of legend. When I last saw Sleater-Kinney cover "The Promised Land," they joked that there are always three or so guys in the crowd who just go nuts and sing along. That's the power of the Bruce-asaurus.
You know, so much of the Bruce hate (or what little there actually is on this thread) no doubt stems from his massive '80s popularity/overexposure. But this is a dude who released five albums before he had a top 40 hit, and even then he followed "The River" with "Nebraska!" That's something. A lot of that "Nebraska" stuff made it into those "Born in the USA" shows in one way or another. As did "Trapped" and "War." Bruce's speachifying about "blind faith will get you killed" before "War" on the "Live" album gives me chills.
Also, not that it's worth very much, but when Peter Buck and Mike Mills joined the E. Street Band to play "Born to Run" at one of those Vote for Change shows last year, they were going nuts, like a couple of excited teenagers.
Anyway, love the guy, and love the fact that even his unreleased stuff is good. Anyone ever heard "The Klansman?" That's some spooky shit.
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 6 January 2005 04:04 (nineteen years ago) link
point taken and agreed with, but just for the historical record, note that his bossness had top 40 hits on album #3 ("born to run," #23) and album #4 ("prove it all night," #33).
i'm also not entirely sure that whatever bruce hate there is stems from his '80s massiveness, inasmuch as the songs the bruce haters around here tend to admit liking are "hungry heart," "dancing in the dark," "i'm on fire" and "brilliant disguise," all from his '80s pop star phase. it's bruce the cult star, not bruce the pop star, that seems to piss them off.
for whatever that's worth.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 05:07 (nineteen years ago) link
Rolling Stones - Start Me Up, Jumpin' Jack FlashJimmy Buffet - MargaritavilleSister Sledge - We Are familyVan Morrison - Brown-Eyed GirlThe Police - RoxanneSteppenwolf - Born To Be WildLed Zeppelin - Stairway To Heaven, Rock-n-RollKool & the Gang - CelebrationDexy's Midnight Runners - Come On EileenLynyrd Skynyrd - Free Bird & Sweet Home AlabamaQueen - We Will Rock You/We Are The Champions & Bohemian RhapsodyRoy Orbison - Pretty WomanGeorge Thorogood - Bad To The BoneJimi Hendrix - Purple Haze, Hey Joe, Foxey LadyDon Henley - Boys Of SummerSister Sledge - We Are FamilyDerek & The Dominoes - LaylaBachman Turner Overdrive - Takin' Care Of BusinessThe Clash - Should I Stay Or Should I GoDire Straits - Sultans Of SwingAll covers and remixes of the above songs
Wow Paul. This list is totally OTM, except I still like Roxanne.
― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 6 January 2005 05:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― Hurting (Hurting), Thursday, 6 January 2005 05:16 (nineteen years ago) link
I gotta be honest, that always sounded pretty lame to me whenever I saw the video.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 6 January 2005 05:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― blount, Thursday, 6 January 2005 05:36 (nineteen years ago) link
-- Chuck's right about the Suicide influence on Nebraska, Springsteen's said that himself.
-- The Phil Spector mention is likewise OTM. That was the whole production inspiration for Born to Run in particular, 64 tracks (4 layered on each of 16), the Wall of Sound thing. Calling it overproduced is a little like calling a Hummer too big: It's true, but that's the whole point. (Not that that means anyone has to like it.)
-- When I was about 16, my parents decided to get rid of the wallpaper in the main bathroom and repaint the walls. First we had to strip the old paper, then for some reason there was some interim period before we painted. For that week or so, my parents told me and my sister we could write whatever we wanted on the exposed walls, because it would all be covered up anyway. We both spent a few hours amusing ourselves with magic markers, but the only thing I remember is that my sister (who was in the midst of a Springsteen craze) scrawledIn the day we sweat it out in the streets of a runaway American dreamAt night we ride through mansions of glory in suicide machinesSprung from cages out on highway 9,Chrome wheeled, fuel injectedand steppin' out over the line.My parents sold the house, but I like to think that's still under the paint somewhere. And it's what the song always makes me think of.
(Alex in NYC will be glad to know my sister soon moved on to The Psychedelic Furs and walked around our high school in a trench coat painted with the lyrics to "Imitation of Christ.")
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 6 January 2005 05:38 (nineteen years ago) link
*reassuringly*
I understand. It's kindof like a menstrual cycle thing, isn't it? And hey, I'm hungry anyway. Do you taste anything like salad?
― Bimble... (Bimble...), Thursday, 6 January 2005 05:40 (nineteen years ago) link
"I wanted to make a record that would sound like Phil Spector. I wanted to write words like Dylan. I wanted my guitar to sound like Duane Eddy"
jim, doesn't he also mention singing like Roy Orbison in this series?
I always though that hearing him talk like this helped me get a handle on the BTR album and the rock-and-roll as opposed to rock (and I might argue their was something rock-and-roll about mid-sixties Dylan) elements in it. Also, compare his unironic (in the good sense) and at the same time unnaive use of these elements to the 50s pastiches of his opposite number on Long Island, Billy Joel.
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 05:53 (nineteen years ago) link
Huh, the sax breaks on Breakfast in America strike me as the biggest obstacle to the generally excellent songs (also some of the keyboard sounds). I prefer the sound of "School" and "Hide In Your Shell" (Do I hear Theremins in the background of the chorus?).
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 6 January 2005 05:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:27 (nineteen years ago) link
― blount, Thursday, 6 January 2005 06:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Thursday, 6 January 2005 07:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Thursday, 6 January 2005 07:53 (nineteen years ago) link
My point was actually the opposite. Someone who genuinely can't find anything of value in the entire Motown catalog really shouldn't be worrying about Bruce Springsteen as his has much bigger problems to conquer.
― walter kranz (walterkranz), Thursday, 6 January 2005 07:59 (nineteen years ago) link
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:08 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:20 (nineteen years ago) link
― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:26 (nineteen years ago) link
and this will sound like a backhanded compliment, but it sort of makes me think of his dislike for bruce (who i also adore as you all know) and others in a new light, makes me respect it more, for i feel more certain that it's totally sincere and not knee-jerk.
anyway i hope he doesn't react negatively to this because--perhaps it's somewhat mysterious why--my respect for alex just jumped up several notches.
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― **%@, Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:35 (nineteen years ago) link
Now occurs to me that most of the hard saxophone references were in slightly outside or arty contexts, so still don't have too many examples. Sonics good example though. I should probably drop this.
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 08:39 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm curious how many people who don't like Bruce have been converted by seeing him live? Or perhaps the opposite scenario?
― Josh in Chicago (Josh in Chicago), Thursday, 6 January 2005 14:32 (nineteen years ago) link
rolling stones, "happy"rolling stones, "tumbling dice"little willie john, "i'm shakin"
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 15:17 (nineteen years ago) link
Is there a sax on "Rocks Off"?
― Ken L (Ken L), Thursday, 6 January 2005 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link
But I harbor a nostalgic fondness for "Who Can it Be Now?" and thus we may have a winner in Men at Work.
― The Mad Puffin, Thursday, 6 January 2005 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 6 January 2005 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link
― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Thursday, 6 January 2005 15:54 (nineteen years ago) link