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I'm sure you're not doing this though are you

Sarcasm aside, no I'm not doing that. I'm just sick of the predictable "done before and better feh poo blah" attitude that permeates Every. Single. Thread. about any nu-rock band that commits the unpardonable sin of, you know, using guitars. I'm also sick of the sweeping condemnation of said bands sucking for no discernible reason than these people care to explain other than "they exist" and "it was done better by some band nobody cares about anymore". And I'm sick of the "hipster" strawman being delivered by people more provincial and snobbish than any hipster I've ever met.

If it makes you feel better, Thin Lizzy's Live and Dangerous is my favorite late '70s rock album right now. Feel that voib, whydon't'cha.

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:57 (twenty-one years ago)

(It also bears mentioning that my username comes from a Patton Oswalt bit about how America invades countries and ruins everything, sort of like a retarded trust fund child: "This country's nice, can we have Disneyworld?" "This is Paris-" "DISNEYWORLD!" "All right, all right, fine... please, don't blow us up." "What's this country, Biblevania?" "Israel." "I WANT A WATERSLIDE!")

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:59 (twenty-one years ago)

So, in conclusion, I am not Bush, I did not vote for Bush, and I in no way whatsoever even remotely resemble Bush. I just find it funny that some people (British or otherwise) have this kneejerk thing: "THE NME LIKES THEM! OUT COME THE BASEBALL BATS!" (See, I used an American weapon there.)

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank you teeny, I appreciate that.

Also, who wants to see Scarlett Johanssen dressed as a man?

― Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not really sure it was her. She looked like she was playing Oscar Wilde.

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:28 (twenty-one years ago)

"I wish the lyrics were better"

The lyrics are bizarro.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Anglo-yank wars aside, THEY SOUND -- SPEAKING OBJECTIVELY -- LIKE SHED SEVEN.

― Baxter, friend to bears, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 09:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The Killers next single should be "She Left Me On Friday".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 13:21 (twenty-one years ago)

it's actually going to be 'This Is How It Feels'

― Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 13:32 (twenty-one years ago)

My g/f had a somewhat Kate-esque reaction to the singer: skinny British foppish indie b0yz0rz yay. The shoe's on t'other foot now!

― Miles Finch, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 14:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I find it bewildering how the Killers' Hot Fuss can mix excitement and brilliance with dullness and naffness in equal measure - there doesn't seem to be an overall feel to the album at all which I can detect. When the initial song "Jenny Was A Friend of Mine" (which I think is the best track on the album incidentally) started I thought "Hmm, early Duran Duran copyists" coz it is startling how good a Le Bon impression Brandon Flowers does on this song! The instrumentation is cool too...there's a lot going on there, it's a good song to listen to for seeing how many layers one can detect.

But, on the other hand, we have the absolutely dreadful track "Glamorous Indie Rock and Roll"...at least it does exactly what it says on the tin - the song is every bit as dire as the title would suggest! It is songs like that where I fear for the bands' future - will they sound exactly like the Stereophonics on the second album? The likes of "Glamorous Indie Rock and Roll" make me tremble at the possibility.

― MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 15 January 2005 15:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I just find it funny that some people (British or otherwise) have this kneejerk thing: "THE NME LIKES THEM! OUT COME THE BASEBALL BATS!" (See, I used an American weapon there.)

You should have been culturally sensitive and said "Out come the teapots, wot wot!"

― miccio (miccio), Saturday, 15 January 2005 16:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Who the FUCK are Shed 7, and why should I care?

― Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 15 January 2005 17:57 (twenty-one years ago)

I will continue to defend the Killers. Saw them live, enjoyed it lots. However MarkH OTM re: "Glamourous Indie Rock n' Roll" - if their next album is a bunch of songs like that, I will be forced to smash the CD underneath my boot and place the shards of plastic in the toilet and FLUSH. What WERE they thinking? Strangely, though it looks like they left that track off the U.S. version of the album. So someone must have had a sense of quality control.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 15 January 2005 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Musical guest on Saturday Night Live tonight, by the way.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 January 2005 22:36 (twenty-one years ago)

CRAP

― LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Saturday, 15 January 2005 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

What, did you stub your toe or something?

― What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Sunday, 16 January 2005 06:04 (twenty-one years ago)

will they cover "lament" ?

― uidge mre, Sunday, 16 January 2005 06:26 (twenty-one years ago)

If you don't appreciate the Killers you have cloth in your ears. Especially if you like Moz or Smiths at all and you don't appreciate them then as far as I'm concerned you have some serious explaining to do. Seriously, Moz aside, what worries me is the idea that the corporate media machine is putting cloth in people's ears to the point that they are rendered UNABLE TO GRASP THE SIMPLE, REFRESHING DELIGHT OF THE KILLERS. What does this say about the future of music? If by some insane miracle, another John, George, Paul & Ringo appeared at our door, would we all just be too cynical, too deaf to hear it? Not that I'm trying to compare the Killers to Beatles, that's not what I'm getting at. What I am getting at is this: If a Killer falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

AND THE ANSWER IS YES IT DOES, BECAUSE THE TEENAGERS KNOW. EVEN IF YOU DON'T. AND TEENAGERS RULE THE WORLD.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 16 January 2005 13:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I *do* appreciate the Killers and like the album as I said before, but at the same time I am puzzled and frustrated by its inconsistency. Maybe it's one of those albums which demonstrates the importance of putting the tracksin a sensible order, which is something you only notice when ppl get it wrong, as clearly the Killers have. The most upbeat immediate tracks are all at the beginning! Couldn't they have spaced them out?!

Brandon's vox are so varied on the album - ok, so he sounds just like Le Bon on "Jenny Was a Friend of Mine", but on "Mr Brightside" he starts by sounding just like the person who sings on Underworld's "Born Slippy" only to transmogrify into Midge Ure. Which does beg the question - should we applaud him for his vocal range and ability to adopt different styles of singing, or criticize him for cynically trying to win over ppl who have fond memories of those records of the past?

― MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 16 January 2005 13:43 (twenty-one years ago)

shed seven are the new beatles.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 16 January 2005 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Incidentally, "Smile Like You Mean It" seems to be the musical equivalent of one of those used cars which get mentioned on consumer programmes sometimes which are actually bits of two cars welded together. The synth lines on it are superb and sound exciting, but the vocals on the chorus are rather tired sounding and heading distressingly in the direction of stadium rock.

― MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 16 January 2005 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

The lead singer has an unmistakable Ian Astbury tone to his voice (something I never noticed untilo their SNL appearance last night).

― mike a, Sunday, 16 January 2005 14:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not exactly sure how Hot Fuss is getting so much praise as an album. There's some great standout tracks, but it's wholly inconsistant. I really want to like them as a band, but I don't hear much to be excited about. And I'm guessing that the first single off their second album will probably be another "Walk Idiot Walk" which doesn't get nearly as much attention as their first album singles.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 16 January 2005 18:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, the Killers have had a lot more pop crossover success than the Hives did. I think the next album could be their Rio!

― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 16 January 2005 18:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I think the album is quite consistent, personally.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 16 January 2005 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Amen, brother.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 16 January 2005 20:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, the Killers have had a lot more pop crossover success than the Hives did. I think the next album could be their Rio!

Do you think they really have potential for Boy Band status? That would be awesome if they did.

― billstevejim, Sunday, 16 January 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Well more than the Hives. They sing about sex and lots of it, for one thing. And they wear eyeliner and make hammy videos.

http://www.parachromatic.com/bFlowers11.jpg

from Ultragrrrl's blog.

"Has anyone seen the new video for the Killers' "Mr. Brightside"? I have a totally abstract crush on Brandon Flowers, but when I see that video, that abstract crush is a totally full-on crush and my vagina explodes. When I told him this, which i did cause I've got no shame, he was blown away from that term and asked if that was a good thing. Yes, it's a good thing. H-E-A-R-T-T-H-R-O-B."

― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 16 January 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Nobody writes this about Howlin' Pelle.

― miccio (miccio), Sunday, 16 January 2005 21:23 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw them on SNL and started remembering back when I listend to early-mid 90s alterna and tried to look for "meaning" in lyrics that were all the same strung-together mildly impressionistic random poetryesqe junk with the same dull metaphors and words over and over.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I see.

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:09 (twenty-one years ago)

And how long have these symptoms appeared?

― Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i hate this band for totally silly specific personal reasons. but i don't think they're that great, regardless.

― g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I think I might've ran into Brandon Flowers one time at a Duran concert. A Duran concert from back in ca. 2000, i.e. very probably pre-Killers days, so it doesn't count as a "celeb" sighting so much as a "pre-celeb" one. We smiled at each other in the "yeah, I know, the whole line thing is a bitch but hey, we can commiserate with each other" sorta way.

Actually, chances are very good it *was* Brandon -- the guy looked pretty much exactly like the Brandon still up above from the "Mr. Brightside" video, and he himself vouched for the fact that he attended at least one of the Vegas concerts during the Pop Trash tour, so, um, yeah.

― Samantha Baker (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 17 January 2005 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

So for pure personal bias' sake, um, yeah, The Killers = killer.

― Samantha Baker (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 17 January 2005 08:38 (twenty-one years ago)

The Killers just don't do it for me, I don't know why. I don't hear the Duran Duran comparisons but then again, I wasn't all that excited about new Duran Duran either. It's good to see Roger Taylor still holding up after all these years. He was always my favorite.

― Sara Sherr, Monday, 17 January 2005 09:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The Killers didn't tour with Morrissey: they opened for him once or twice. He put "Jenny was a Friend of mine" on his NME Songs that Saved Your Life CD though, ha ha. Over Christmas I was in the car with my sister listening to what used to be the alterna-station WHFS and this guy was moaning and my sister said what's that and I said, I think . . . it's the Killers. It was and my sister was impressed with my youth-cred. I then heard the the same song every hour on the hour. And it was like #8 on their Top 99.1 songs of the year. So I realized, I guess they have made it big in America (I thought they were gonna be yet another NME-band. That station (I read yesterday) has just rolled over to become Latin Pop. Apparently Brandon F was a bellhop in Vegas and secretly went into Bono's bag to lift an album demo from him: as their were no vocals he didn't copy it for his friends. I don't understand though . . . how are they any worse than any other new hot young band on the cover of NME?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Nobody writes this about Howlin' Pelle.

I was just using The Hives as an example because, to the best of my knowledge, it's the most recent example of radio ignoring the first single off the follow-up record. I could have said "My Favourite Game" by The Cardigans I guess..

― billstevejim, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

Every time I hear they're famous I scratch my head. A very nothing band.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:31 (twenty-one years ago)

this from a guy who has reviewed every Alphaville album

― miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

If there are any Alphaville albums after 1990 then they should probably be left to rot in a corner somewhere.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

They are fixated on early 80s pop/new wave, that's for sure. I just listened to Hot Fuss for the 1st time this morning and heard steals from the Cure, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, and even Erasure. I think Placebo was doing all of this stuff way, way better in 1998.

― ffirehorse (firehorse), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Am I dreaming or is Brandon affecting an English accent when he sings?

― Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:05 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

I heard/saw them for the very first time Saturday night on the SNL rerun. I don't know Shed 7, I can hear Duran and Ultravox, but mostly I thought they sounded like The Fixx!

― Daniel Peterson (polkaholic), Monday, 4 April 2005 19:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay so i was watching MTV2 and these loud mouthed tools called the "queens of noise" were talking about the killers and said they sound exactly like Shed Seven.

This an several other mind stealing incidents this weekend have left me paranoid.

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 4 April 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

we're watching your every move deary

― The Queens Of Noise (blueski), Monday, 4 April 2005 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)

AHHHHHHHHHH BEES

http://www.insectstings.co.uk/images/honeycombbees.jpg

― Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Monday, 4 April 2005 22:06 (twenty-one years ago)

they used to sound like hot hot heat until they got signed by island, before that they were in ska bands probably

― cornelius crash (cornelius crash), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 04:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Brandon Flowers looks too much like Jordan Knight, thus I cannot deal with this band.

― LowenBrÖ (Carey), Tuesday, 5 April 2005 08:54 (twenty-one years ago)

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