i agree w/ m.j. to baja above. packaging disappointing. kinda like they spent all the money on the box, and had to cheap-out on the individual discs. and, really--the reproductions of WVoigt's photographs are blown-out, and on thin coated paper... nowhere near the quality of the original releases.
B U T ,,,, i'm glad it's out; anxious to play the whole thing!
― nerve_pylon, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:04 (seventeen years ago)
and, predictably, i wish i bought the lp version too...
― nerve_pylon, Saturday, 14 June 2008 00:05 (seventeen years ago)
did they up with the remastering of konigsforst? the final track is now swathed in what sounds like shitty digital reverb, wtf! the difference is really noticeable when i a/b it with an older rip
― am0n, Friday, 20 June 2008 03:52 (seventeen years ago)
oops, did they fuck up...
compare the old one with the new version
its like the bass got sucked out of it
― am0n, Friday, 20 June 2008 04:01 (seventeen years ago)
fucking christ, how did this happen
― winston, Friday, 20 June 2008 04:11 (seventeen years ago)
rest of the album sounds fine if not better than before. how could he ruin such a good track like that
― am0n, Friday, 20 June 2008 05:11 (seventeen years ago)
so supposedly some of this has guitar samples? i can't hear it anywhere, it all sounds like horns and strings to me...
― moonship journey to baja, Friday, 20 June 2008 08:17 (seventeen years ago)
i think the supposed "backwards disc guitar" samples or whatever are on (what was) track 1 of the first album and its basskick-equipped companion (track 2 disc 1 in the box)
i'm not too happy that he left out that first track. maybe my favorite gas track? i like it better without the kick, personally. it's like stepping into a sauna
― winston, Thursday, 26 June 2008 18:41 (seventeen years ago)
duh that's supposed to be "backwards disco guitar"
― winston, Thursday, 26 June 2008 18:42 (seventeen years ago)
missing?
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 26 June 2008 18:46 (seventeen years ago)
quoi?
― winston, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:01 (seventeen years ago)
vinyl is gone, gone, gone. "wolfgang refuses to repress" is what i was told. if you see it, grab it!
― BATTAGS, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:06 (seventeen years ago)
did anybody pre-order the vinyl on amazon (and if so did you receive it)?
― winston, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:11 (seventeen years ago)
i noticed the track timings on discogs are different between the original CD and disc 1 of the box set. what gives?
― moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:30 (seventeen years ago)
Looks like the track lengths (as listed on Discogs at least) don't exactly match up for each of the 4 albums, but the self-titled album is especially different.
― lou, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:40 (seventeen years ago)
oh thats right. track 1 of the s/t is a new track i think. its nice but i agree with winston that it should have been kept. i guess he felt it was superfluous? seriously still pissed at what he did to that last track on konigforst so i'm glad i didn't buy this set. i'd rather just pay out the nose for original discs at this point
― am0n, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:44 (seventeen years ago)
track 3 is new too i think
― winston, Thursday, 26 June 2008 19:59 (seventeen years ago)
and the running order is shuffled a bit (on the s/t)
― winston, Thursday, 26 June 2008 20:01 (seventeen years ago)
wow, glad I kept my original of Konigsforst.
I bought both of these (CD and LP) cuz they were cheap. I'm glad I didn't shell out bigtime because this seems like it has a lot of typical reissue fuckups. Deleting a track and drastically altering another, wtf!
― sleeve, Friday, 27 June 2008 21:08 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.kompakt-net.com/images/utils/gas_werbeflyer_400x550.gif
― am0n, Monday, 1 September 2008 02:19 (seventeen years ago)
"please click"
dunno if it's been mentioned elsewhere, but the raster-norton thing is out. the book is more of the photos like the little card things that came in the nah und ferd box. no text whatsoever
cd is probably the least of the full-lengths but quite nice nonetheless; a great version of "tal 90", one of my favorite wv tracks
― winston, Monday, 1 September 2008 11:59 (seventeen years ago)
http://www.redbullmusicacademy.com/video-archive/lectures/wolfgang_voigt_gas_amp_killer
― eman, Saturday, 8 November 2008 02:04 (seventeen years ago)
I never heard anything about how the live debut worked out... anyone?
― ilxor, Saturday, 8 November 2008 04:06 (seventeen years ago)
here's my review from the show at park güell, in barcelona:
http://www.residentadvisor.net/review-view.aspx?id=5587
― pshrbrn, Saturday, 8 November 2008 09:58 (seventeen years ago)
Nice review, Philip. It sounds like a great show... if exactly what I'd expect, of course.
― ilxor, Sunday, 9 November 2008 02:17 (seventeen years ago)
Before today, I had only heard Pop. I liked it, but I mentally filed it away as music to do homework to. Today I listened to Konigsforst over and over again, and I realized I'm going to have to look into everything Voigt has done. Track 5 is AMAZING.
― 2 5 (Z S), Wednesday, 31 December 2008 03:03 (seventeen years ago)
Was at the show in Chicago tonight. Wow. The ending was one of the most intense things I've ever seen, but the whole thing was incredible - was really surprised at how good the visuals were, and how much they added.
― toby, Wednesday, 27 May 2009 02:11 (seventeen years ago)
anyone else catch chicago/mutek/nyc?
― toby, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 09:59 (seventeen years ago)
Saw him at Mutek, was very good (I was in a very inopportune state to fully enjoy it, though, and others told me it was their festival highlight). Very glad to have seen it, certainly.
― Edward Saroyan, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:20 (seventeen years ago)
i sent a friend to the NY show, his report was that WVoigt was too loud and relentless, and the visuals were boring—but that the crowd adored it. perhaps i sent the wrong friend?
― nerve_pylon, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:32 (seventeen years ago)
wanted to go to the ny show but it just wasn't in the cards. bummer.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 14:40 (seventeen years ago)
Blogstitude on the Chicago show. I guess he didn't make it in time to see it in the "main room" and wound up in a "side room." Sounds like it would have been incredible in the room it was intended for.
― Trip Maker, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 15:35 (seventeen years ago)
Yeah, I was in the main room (arrived two hours early) and it was indeed amazing. I thought the visuals were fantastic, way more interesting than I'd ever have expected.
― toby, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 18:55 (seventeen years ago)
reinhardt: is that all the record do?wolfgang: yeah bitch, that's all the record do
― moonship journey to baja, Tuesday, 2 June 2009 21:09 (seventeen years ago)
Gas19:00, 21:00 / Wolfgang Voigt - one of the most influential figures in contemporary electronic music - brings a stunning audio-visual creation to the Barbican16 October 2009Cinema 1
^ Did you lot know about this already? Apologies if old news.
― Peinlich Manoeuvre (NickB), Wednesday, 9 September 2009 19:50 (sixteen years ago)
I keep this 4cd box close to William Basinski's Disintegration Loops because either one makes me want to listen to the other. Some day, Basinski should do disintegrating Gas loops.
― StanM, Saturday, 28 May 2011 21:33 (fifteen years ago)
the very high pitched sounds on pop bother me
― nuclear power, jet propulsion, radar, laser beams, cordless phone (abanana), Saturday, 28 May 2011 22:21 (fifteen years ago)
2nd half of pop >>>>>>> 1st half
― blank, Saturday, 28 May 2011 22:31 (fifteen years ago)
Yea. It's a lot more varied on the latter half and it has Untitled 4, which is by far my favorite Gas track.
― The Sunspots In Your Eyes Are Actually Cataracts, Mr. Rudich (AWALL), Sunday, 29 May 2011 11:14 (fifteen years ago)
― blank, Sunday, May 29, 2011 1:31 AM (14 hours ago) Bookmark
OTM, in fact I figured this was so obvious that it barely needed to be said.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Sunday, 29 May 2011 13:22 (fifteen years ago)
Why haven't I ever listened to this before???
― Sean Carruthers, Sunday, 29 May 2011 15:56 (fifteen years ago)
Just listened to the first one straight though and damn, so good. Only scored lower here b/c it's less heard I think.
― Mark, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 03:02 (fifteen years ago)
Pop is the first one I heard, and I still love it, but Königsforst will probably always be my fav
― Z S, Tuesday, 31 May 2011 03:17 (fifteen years ago)
someone gave me a cd of wolfgang voigt and it's all piano and kick drum and i really don't know what to make of it, except i recognise one of the tracks from something, it's just weird, like it makes me want to clean the house a lot
― Crackle Box, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 14:07 (fifteen years ago)
Gas is the only thing of his I've heard, afaic. Love it, but never felt compelled to start searching everything else yet.
― StanM, Wednesday, 1 June 2011 20:47 (fifteen years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfvtBNtT6F0
― are there any socks left that are not some kind of sub rosa markers (nakhchivan), Wednesday, 1 June 2011 21:12 (fifteen years ago)
Does anyone know why Voigt decided to change tracks number 1 and 3 on the first Gas album when it was released on Nah und Fern? And where do the new tracks 1 and 3 come from? Are they unreleased tracks from the same era, or stuff that was on the vinyls, or what? I just acquired the original CD of Gas, and track 3 especially is gorgeous, an epic cosmic groove that's crisper than anything on the latter Gas releases. It's a pity Nah und Fern got rid of those tracks; the replacements aren't bad, but the original CD might be the best Gas release of them all.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 March 2012 09:27 (fourteen years ago)
Also, am I the only one who feels many Gas tunes, especially those on Zauberberg and Königsforst, are reminiscent of Arvo Pärt's compositions? There's kind of a similar sense of non-motion and solemn spirituality to them.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 March 2012 17:40 (fourteen years ago)
I read an interview where he discussed samples, he was a little coy but did mention Schubert IIRC.
― mmmm, Friday, 30 March 2012 18:10 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I think the classical stuff he samples is way older than Pärt, but what he does with it feels similar to Pärt, at least to me. Pärt has several "cyclical" (don't know what the correct music theory term is here) compositions that remind of Gas's loops.
― Tuomas, Friday, 30 March 2012 18:16 (fourteen years ago)