Say something charitable about the Eagles.

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it's pure cocaine stardust fm radio and indirectly responsible for the beachwood sparks andd the cosmic rough riders. more later!

― doom-e, Friday, 20 June 2003 10:37 (twenty-two years ago)

re 'Little Richard' - "Out of Control"? "Chug All Night"? "James Dean"? OK maybe those weren't their finest moments tho...but the most amazing thing about this thread is Chuck Eddy dismissing the 'social context'! (btw where's the love for "After the Thrill is Gone", it's the most jaw-dropping rich-famous-rockstars-have-feelings-too! affrontery I've ever heard (cuz it's SOOOO downbeat, not even a 'well at least we still get to play music!' vibe that lets everyone 'excuse' "Life in the Fast Lane"), 'American Life' and 'The Wall' are like monastic repentance in comparison

― dave q, Friday, 20 June 2003 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

The original lineup was the Monkees' secret comeback (Henley=Dolenz, Frey=Jones, Leadon=Nesmith, Meisner=Tork, even Azoff=Don Kirshener). They lost me when Walsh joined, although everything he was involved in up to then was finestkind, was most of "Life's Been Good." But speaking of so-hip(pie)-it-hurts drole playing (which Warren Zevon does much better, for better or worse), methinks the desperadudes doth protest too much ("Get Over It" indeed, sez the umpteenth reunion tour poster where "Life in the Fast Lane" is the "Born in the USA" of misinterpreted-by-the-audience-they-purport-to-condemn anthems from the 1970s).

Still, I love playing their stuff on guitar, especially "Take It Easy," "Already Gone," "On The Border," even "Hotel California." Great at parties, 'cuz the girls know the words, too. Same with "Desperado" on piano (and "Jump" too, although I skip the Styx soloing).

PS Nice Big Pussy move on Don Felder.

― Chris Clark (Chris Clark), Friday, 20 June 2003 11:34 (twenty-two years ago)

wait, are you saying you play guitar at parties?

― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Friday, 20 June 2003 12:59 (twenty-two years ago)

their harmonies, like csny's, have a strange way of lulling me to sleep. but they were ace pop songwriters, and "new kid in town" is pretty much perfect.

― fact checking cuz, Friday, 20 June 2003 13:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, I don't think that any member of the Eagles have raped or murdered anyone. That's about the best thing I can say about them.

― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Friday, 20 June 2003 13:14 (twenty-two years ago)

DON FELDER KILLED MY GRANDMOTHER!

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 June 2003 15:25 (twenty-two years ago)

That's "something charitable"?

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Whateva. Y'all are too caught up in the vogue. Hotel California is probably the greatest song ever written. THERE, I SAID IT!!!! The album version won't prove this however, as the outdated production is quick to prove. Anyone seen the original video for the tune? I'm talking about the one filmed at an L.A. show in the late 70's, not the Hell Freezes Over performance. It is PRIME CHOICE.

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Friday, 20 June 2003 16:24 (twenty-two years ago)

It's crap.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 June 2003 18:26 (twenty-two years ago)

They knew how to write songs, were embarrassingly self conscious, and capitalized on an american ideal that had run its course. David Geffen hypnotized them with the magic crystal. I'm glad I got to hear them as a child because with out them Happy and Artie Traum might not make any sense today. Zevon endures. Steve K to the plate...JA

― JohnAllen, Friday, 20 June 2003 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Did anyone else find "Get Over It" really offensive?

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:25 (twenty-two years ago)

yes

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Their cover of "Take it Easy" made money for Jackson Browne, who dated Nico. I wish I'd dated Nico.

― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Jackson Browne is the devil.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Why is "Get Over It" offensive? Is it just bad? I barely remember it.

― Mr. Diamond (diamond), Friday, 20 June 2003 20:59 (twenty-two years ago)

"Get Over It" = whiny ex-hippies scolding those who do not have $$ for complaining. It's baby-boomer sanctimony at its absolute nadir.

― J (Jay), Friday, 20 June 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I still like "Those Shoes," though.

― J (Jay), Friday, 20 June 2003 21:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"Get Over It" isn't even so offensive for the message (although anyone with any sensitivity whatsoever knows that you don't just get over depression and trauma -- get a brain, morans). It's that I listen to the song and feel like I'm sitting there with Henley et al at the songwriting session, and they're all "let's write an anthem about how much those whiny Oprah shits get on our nerves!!" and then I think about all the dumbass rednecks driving around with their Confederate-flag stickers on their dashboards, singing along and going "whooo-eeee DAMN RIGHT."

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Friday, 20 June 2003 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Eagles - Get Over It lyrics

I turn on the tube and what do I see
A whole lotta people cryin' "Don't blame me"
They point their crooked little fingers ar everybody else
Spend all their time feelin' sorry for themselves
Victim of this, victim of that
Your momma's too thin; your daddy's too fat

Get over it
Get over it
All this whinin' and cryin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it

You say you haven't been the same since you had your little crash
But you might feel better if I gave you some cash
The more I think about it, Old Billy was right
Let's kill all the lawyers, kill 'em tonight
You don't want to work, you want to live like a king
But the big, bad world doesn't owe you a thing

Get over it
Get over it
If you don't want to play, then you might as well split
Get over it, Get over it

It's like going to confession every time I hear you speak
You're makin' the most of your losin' streak
Some call it sick, but I call it weak

You drag it around like a ball and chain
You wallow in the guilt; you wallow in the pain
You wave it like a flag, you wear it like a crown
Got your mind in the gutter, bringin' everybody down
Complain about the present and blame it on the past
I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass

Get over it
Get over it
All this bitchin' and moanin' and pitchin' a fit
Get over it, get over it

Get over it
Get over it
It's gotta stop sometime, so why don't you quit
Get over it, get over it

― ham on rye (ham on rye), Saturday, 21 June 2003 08:32 (twenty-two years ago)

"I'd like to find your inner child and kick its little ass" = the eagles are punker than the punkiest punk who ever punked!!

(i wish they were actually called the wagles, though, like i just typed)

― mark s (mark s), Saturday, 21 June 2003 08:44 (twenty-two years ago)

What a stupid fuckin' song, the first line gives it away. Don, TURN OFF THE FUCKIN' TUBE

― dave q, Saturday, 21 June 2003 08:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Check out the version of hotel california...

http://www.eugenemirman.com/

― john allen (john allen), Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:27 (twenty-two years ago)

this lawyer thinks that fools that point to "billy" shakespeare's "the first thing we'll do is/kill all the lawyers!"* line have outed themselves as morons, just as effectively as beginning any sentence with "as rush limbaugh/ann coulter/bill o'reilly/george bush says ... "

yet another reason to kill don henley and glen frey.

* the person who utters this line is a low-life rabble-rouser leading a mob; in other words, shakespeare did not approve of these sentiments. not that that inconvenient fact ever stops shitheads like don and glen from spouting off that line ... not to mention that they prob. love the lawyers they hired to go after eric b & rakim for "unauthorized sampling."

― Tad (llamasfur), Saturday, 21 June 2003 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Why didn't anyone review Don Henley's Inside Job with the three simple words: Get Over It?

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 21 June 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago)

five months pass...

They can be tremendous.

They seem like 'good musicians'.

When they play country I like it a lot.

They don't make the mistake of finishing their guitar solos sooner than they have to.

― the eaglefox, Tuesday, 2 December 2003 22:07 (twenty-two years ago)

What did/do the Eagles stand for? As someone who grew up on classic rock I'm perplexed that I don't even know. I have always hated their music for reasons i can't put my finger on... it just makes me feel sick and depressed. I hate Henley's voice and his whining and preaching. "Desperado" is OK, though...

― Blood and sparkles (bloodandsparkles), Tuesday, 2 December 2003 23:42 (twenty-two years ago)

"Something charitable about the Eagles"

nothing happened.

― mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 09:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I like the fact that they've given young managers such as Kit "the Silver Fox" Symons a chance. And who can forget Vince Hilaire, Thomas Brolin's headband, and the Wright and Bright partnership of the early 90's?

― Simon Jordon, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

I have a strong sense that a great many people attack or dislike the Eagles for 'extra-musical reasons'.

I don't say that there is anything wrong with that. Possibly it is right or inevitable.

But it is notable to me that I have no real context or back-story about them, no history of Eagle hegemony or anti-Eagle polemic, and I just like a lot of their tracks, from what I've heard so far.

― the pinefox, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

And the fact they sold a shitload of records. Although I'm willing to bet a lot of people mistakenly bought their first compilation (Vol.1), thinking Hotel C. was in it, and probably liked it enough to not sell it back.

― Francis Watlington (Francis Watlington), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

The only charitable thing I can say about The Eagles is that by creating my most hated song of all time in "Hotel California", they have raised the bar so high in the competition that any other song on earth will always sounds better than "Hotel California".

I'm not sure if that's charitable though.

― Rob M (Rob M), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

As I mentioned earlier today, Eagles > Swans.

― Tim (Tim), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Though I've not heard any Swans, I'm willing to argue that with you Tim. But just not at the moment. Or any other moment actually.

― Rob M (Rob M), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I can't believe there have been 138 answers on a thread entitled "Say something charitable about the Eagles" without anyone having mentioned Linda Ronstadt and what a fine backing band they were for her.

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Dave Q is SO RIGHT about the Eagles being the American Pink Floyd -- I once tried to convince my mom this was the case so we could listen to Dark Side of the Moon on the car radio. (She didn't buy it.)

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

wow, "James Dean" is a fairly great song. Another feather in their cap. I guess I should just go ahead and buy On the Border for a buck somewhere. already have Hotel and Long Run of course, just never thought I needed pre-Walsh stuff beyond GH 1; Dave Q right as always.

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 13 March 2005 10:28 (twenty-one years ago)

this also came up now on my DEEP CUTS classic rock station

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 13 March 2005 10:29 (twenty-one years ago)

ha -- now the classic rock station is playing "Ripples" by Genesis from Trick of the tail!! holy shit this classic rock station rocks!!

― Stormy Davis (diamond), Sunday, 13 March 2005 10:32 (twenty-one years ago)

"Journey of the Sorcerer" is nice. SPACE BANJO!

― Telephonething, Sunday, 13 March 2005 10:55 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...

"New Kid in Town" is the only one that's every struck me as extraordinary in some way.

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 12 November 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

"ever struck me as extraordinary"

― Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 12 November 2005 03:16 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

I'm agreeing with JBR lately that In The City is a standout awesome song among many duds.

― Hurting 2, Friday, 11 July 2008 00:20 (seventeen years ago)

"Those Shoes" and "Disco STrangler" are superbly fuckwithable sample-sources. (But they'll surely sue your ass if you ever try to deprive 'em of royalties.)

I still may check out On The Border or Desperado next time I find 'em for a buck.

― Myonga Vön Bontee, Friday, 11 July 2008 07:18 (seventeen years ago)

amazing how the 70s era east coast rock crit hate for these dudes had such a long lasting influence. i don't own any of their records but it's funny how i rarely change the station when their tunes come on my car radio, i think that is the best context for their stuff.

― velko, Friday, 11 July 2008 07:38 (seventeen years ago)

James Gang's "Rides Again" album is so, so awesome.

― Savannah Smiles, Friday, 11 July 2008 09:59 (seventeen years ago)

There comes a point once or twice a year where it's somehow the right time to listen to the Eagles. It's right time for the peaceful, easy feeling.

Also, Joe Walsh did a song called 'I like big tits'.

― gnarly sceptre, Friday, 11 July 2008 11:47 (seventeen years ago)

"Those Shoes" and "Disco STrangler" are superbly fuckwithable sample-sources. (But they'll surely sue your ass if you ever try to deprive 'em of royalties.)

"Never Let Her Slip Away" followed by "Heartache Tonight" to thread.

― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 11 July 2008 12:01 (seventeen years ago)

They harmonize well. I only like a few of their songs. What really bugs me about this band are their fans("The f---g Eagles, dude!") and their inflated self-image (from reading interviews with the band).

― Daniel, Esq., Friday, 11 July 2008 12:24 (seventeen years ago)

Not to mention Radio 2's unending fixation of them as the apex of all popular music.

― Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, 11 July 2008 12:28 (seventeen years ago)

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