Sasha Frere-Jones: Really?????

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lol @ this circling back to gucci mane but it's actually pertinent to the discussion of the sasha frere jones article that is being discussed itt.

brrrmuda triangle (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

lol what doors are these j0hn d.

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

yeah i'm just saying though cuzza his voice and style it's not like ppl are going to instantly notice "hey he's saying really weird/funny/cool punchlines" the way that like MF Doom really says HEY CRITICS LOOK AT ME I AM A WEIRDO IN A MASK you know?

like i'm sure you could just hear it and have it pass by you like another club rap song and not notice that shit

(i love doom btw)

hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:50 (sixteen years ago)

deej if that doesn't parse instantly as elbowing deej in ribs I don't know what I'm doin wrong

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

Apparently not elbowing him hard enough.

We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

burial may have only played to a hundred stoned hippies in hoodies but all of those stoned hippies went home and started dubstep message boards

Bobby Wo (max), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:51 (sixteen years ago)

if louis was alive i bet he'd make a dubstep remix of Elbow

hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

RIP LJ ;_;

Comfort Me With Apples (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:52 (sixteen years ago)

gucci mane: big and rich for '09?

access flap (omar little), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

hahahahahahahahahahaha omar

the blackest thing ever seen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:55 (sixteen years ago)

doom is great

nice email (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

tbh tho, SFJ was on the lil wayne bandwagon like a lot of people & it's pretty irresponsible for him to have recognized what wayne did and write the article that he did now w/o mentioning gucci mane

brrrmuda triangle (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:56 (sixteen years ago)

Totally irresponsible.

We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:57 (sixteen years ago)

Was there already a clusterfuck thread about the Doom article in the NYer?

Comfort Me With Apples (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:58 (sixteen years ago)

what a disaster for responsibility

access flap (omar little), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

i guess if u 'love the game' of indie re: omar's indie-nfl parallel then yah gucci could be yr big n rich

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 21:59 (sixteen years ago)

Totally irresponsible.

― We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:57 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark

ha, well. if you're gonna write an article about the state of the rap game!!

brrrmuda triangle (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:01 (sixteen years ago)

"...gangsta rap's "are you ready for some football?" has finally arrived"
- GQ Magazine

hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:01 (sixteen years ago)

http://resources.mygen.co.uk/contacttables/BigandRich2.jpg

access flap (omar little), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:02 (sixteen years ago)

bigucci & rich

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:05 (sixteen years ago)

If you don't appreciate advanced chord changes, you have no taste in music. Stop making fun of this guy because he has more taste than you.

Sondre Lerche is amazing, btw, but his first two albums were his best, and he hasn't managed to follow them. Partly because the production has been too "rough" on the followers. The first two were more polished-sounding, which suited him better.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:42 (sixteen years ago)

...

k3vin k., Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:43 (sixteen years ago)

lol geir droppin' the lerche bomb

this shit is on like donkey kong

hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

A) I too miss hip-hop’s blues-based swing.
B) I really like the myers article, and am pretty sure that for the most part formal innovation lost its way sometime in the last 20-30 years or so.

s.clover, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:45 (sixteen years ago)

Was there already a clusterfuck thread about the Doom article in the NYer?

dunno if there's been a thread. I didn't even read that thing, I was surprised they published that piece after SFJ wrote a big Madvillainy article not that long ago.

dmr, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 22:52 (sixteen years ago)

Geir I hate to break this to you but there's no such thing as an "advanced chord change"

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:06 (sixteen years ago)

Pretty sure the bard class was able to play an "advanced chord change" once it got to 12th level.

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We call them "meat hemorrhoids" (Alex in SF), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:17 (sixteen years ago)

saving throw against Gm7b5

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:20 (sixteen years ago)

i've been aug'n all my chords lately, shit sounds so smart

hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)

but then i might just throw in a diminished, keep it fresh you know?

hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:21 (sixteen years ago)

my thing on piano right now is anchoring the chord on the 6 - instant fake bill evans

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:23 (sixteen years ago)

i like to use a sus4, really give it that BREAKING NEWS feel

i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:25 (sixteen years ago)

oh man I am seriously feeling that, like to add the sus4 passing from tonic to either 4 or minor 6th

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:27 (sixteen years ago)

woah bust the scientifical j0hn, i'm feelin' that shit.

hotel coral essex (M@tt He1ges0n), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:28 (sixteen years ago)

burial may have only played to a hundred stoned hippies in hoodies but all of those stoned hippies went home and started dubstep message boards

i know this is like 100 posts ago but its only been an hour and i just wanted to drop an appreciative "lol"

samosa gibreel, Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:46 (sixteen years ago)

no you see, it's kind of like a knock knock joke, so it's not funny

k3vin k., Thursday, 22 October 2009 00:29 (sixteen years ago)

Geir I hate to break this to you but there's no such thing as an "advanced chord change"

Yes, there is, and the middle eight in "Two Way Monologue" - Lerches best song - is a perfect example of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjALLCRCn6U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8dK0iEzi1M

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fxQ_AzwuWg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rh6IwFhG8G8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlYt8tvuB64

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsZjPjeNihE

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 22 October 2009 00:54 (sixteen years ago)

No, Geir. You like the chords. No chord change is "advanced." They're all one chord to another chord. What passes for theory in your concept of music is a total joke. Don't talk about things you don't know about, thanks, yr buddy, jd

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 22 October 2009 00:56 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.google.com/search?q=%22advanced%20chord%20change%22&sourceid=mozilla2&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8

in your defense there does seem to be one other person on the internet who believes the term "advanced chord change" has meaning

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:00 (sixteen years ago)

Some chord changes are more advanced than others. The most boring and unimaginative variant there is is various incarnations of Major I - Major IV - Major V. Typically found in musically inferior genres like country, folk, 50s rock'n'roll and R&B.

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:01 (sixteen years ago)

http://www.google.com/search?hl=no&q=%22advanced+chord+changes%22&btnG=S%C3%B8k&lr=&aq=f&oq=

(Advances chord changes most be plural to give any meaning, as it is the combination of changes and not just one change that gives meaning to the term)

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:02 (sixteen years ago)

The typical clever type of chord changes - like the examples above - is changing key all the time, confusing the listener, and sort of requiring some sort of musicological schooling to really be able to appreciate it. Quality music is about the mind, not the body!

Tied Up In Geir (Geir Hongro), Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:03 (sixteen years ago)

http://photobucket.com/albums/v178/H-B-K19/Funny%20junk/th_oh_snap.gif

moonship journey to baja, Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:05 (sixteen years ago)

yo fuck some sort of musicological schooling, i got ears they work fine

samosa gibreel, Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:07 (sixteen years ago)

moonship if I can't find out what that image was going to be I am going to bust some advanced chord changes of sorrow

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:08 (sixteen years ago)

The typical clever type of chord changes - like the examples above - is changing key all the time, confusing the listener, and sort of requiring some sort of musicological schooling to really be able to appreciate it.

lol Geir you troll you, anybody with any schooling knows better than to make sweeping claims like the ones you speciaize in, back under the bridge with you now

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:10 (sixteen years ago)

frank gambale and geir are the only two people with enough musicological schooling to understand advanced chord changes

Bobby Wo (max), Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:30 (sixteen years ago)

it's not just me right? I mean my dad played jazz piano for 40 years and I can't conceive of him talking about "advanced chord changes"

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:32 (sixteen years ago)

"yes, son, I-IV is very simple. IIm-VIaugb5, that's a very complex chord change."

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:33 (sixteen years ago)

I just made up that 2nd chord btw hope everybody enjoys it

a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Thursday, 22 October 2009 01:33 (sixteen years ago)


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