Sasha Frere-Jones: Really?????

well, or it suggests, as he is saying outright, that he's not that taken with what he's hearing

I mean this is exactly what I'm talking about - "he doesn't like what I like! he must not have heard what I've heard!" lol wut, if I don't see something on somebody's list I don't assume they're ignorant to its glories

has anyone here listened to that dude from gary indiana? is he any good?

hes good & constructs good albums but as a rapper hes a pretty plain trad-gangster rap dude being pushed by a guy w a day job @ stones throw who apparently knows how to market to the white boy crit market

this is just a really shortsighted article - the jay-z album isnt a barometer or indicator of anything beyond an aging artist attempting to tighten his grip on the ability to feel in touch - the freddie gibbs tangent is really disconnected & gibbs in general is good but is not anything special in terms of trend. the type of thing that gibbs is doing with mixtape-as-album has been going on for two or three years now. the piece just makes it look like SFJ is skimming what all rap fans & sorta rap fans are talking about - jay & rae - and what the 'right' tastemaking blogs are talking up - gibbs, who is a good rapper in a looooooooooong line of unsigned rappers putting out fully formed albums for free .

yeah, if your perfect consumer is the white boy crit market you are gonna go hungry. they never pay for anything. he should market the album to critical 12 year old white boys. they got money.

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has anyone here listened to that dude from gary indiana? is he any good?

― call all destroyer, Wednesday, October 21, 2009 8:12 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yes and yes he is very very good IMO

as soon as i noticed that this thread had been updated, i knew exactly why

because sasha frere-jones recently wrote an article?

http://stuhasic.files.wordpress.com/2007/01/psychic.jpg

as soon as i noticed that this thread had been updated, i knew exactly why

rip sfj

rock crit died today. along with rap.

people still listen to prefuse 73 rekkerds?

rip people

rip black people and their music

rip...everyone (tiny tim voice)

women writing poetry itt

http://www.kidsuki.com/Images/scooby-doo.jpeg

rip rop?

i looked up joker from that list. joker is a dubstep artist.

because sfj wrote a "hip hop is 'dead'" article, folks.

i don't know if i really feel like looking up the arch cupcake though. i will just assume that they are a dubstep artist as well.

http://www.myspace.com/thearchcupcake

spoofed link to lemonparty, do not click

would read a well written article on canonical shock images

rap = dead, dubstep = best music out

got it

not that big on the song, but i'm digging the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGAP15CT3X4

rap = dead, dubstep = best music out

got it

were rock stans this belligerent when the genre was 25 years old and people didn't think it was still some radical new force for shakin up the charts and started lookin around for other shit to get excited about?

wait lol don't answer that

well basically that's why we ended up with punk rock; if hip-hop's version is snap/jerk, I can only wait with bated breath for the awesome post-jerk hip-hop that should be rolling out this decade

xpost disco-burning stadium rallies etc etc.

they were enraged! they killed disco cuz they were so mad.

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hahahaha, yeah, what he said.

were rock stans this belligerent when the genre was 25 years old and people didn't think it was still some radical new force for shakin up the charts and started lookin around for other shit to get excited about?

wait lol don't answer that

― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 4:02 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

who's being belligerent? is dubstep a radical new force?

So I was really enjoying Arch Cupcake's "Box of Bees" (wow that sounds dirty) until it got to the bit with the pitchshifted chanting of his name which reaffirmed that, no matter what the music actually sounds like, seriously fuck anyone who thinks calling themselves "The Arch Cupcake" is a good idea.

i am excited about new rap. a bunch of us have been transcribing, in detail, one popular rapper's verses in another thread every time a successive tape comes out. & hes the one huge artist this article really seems to overlook

"who's being belligerent?"

Yeah I wouldn't characterize deej as belligerent. Ridiculously whiny hits the mark, I think.

my cousin Arch Cupcake Darn13113 is going to beat your ass btw Dan

wait so john d. isn't darn1elle? but he is also a singer/songwriter. i'm confused.

are "state of the genre" essays that make big pronouncements EVER satisfying? i have yet to read one that doesn't sound foolish.

john d's real name is Cupcake Jones

john D is actually John Dean

is he related to persecution smith?

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QUE, GOOGLEPROOF

shit my bad SLutc@ke J0nes

i mean Cupc@ake J0nes

i don't think it's that whiny to think that sfj piece seems to pick three pretty odd albums to hang it's "state of hip hop" thesis on...i mean i'm no gucci stan but it seems like as much noise as he's made in the last two years he should be mentioned.

no but "lol rap is important fuckin dubstep what are you nerds on about" is kinda the '09 version of "punk rock, pshaw, that's not even music"

I find deej to be generally pretty shrill and whiny (and this "why do people care about I don't, I don't get it" thing is part and parcel of that). I have no interest in SFJ's particular (weak) thesis cuz whether or not he thinks "hip-hop is dead" will affect how I listen to music not one bit.

so dubstep is the new punk rock

QED, lock thread