letz talk abt gucci mane

lovin "timmy" right now -- def a track to convert the yet-to-be-converted, at least trad rap stans who like a 'story' song so they can praise storytelling abilities lol

I really dig when Zaytoven is used for this effect (as in "timmy") -- where its like this nu-southern rza, giving things a kind of rundown technoid noir that really gives the mood a way more visceral & current & relevent feel than i get from, like, the new raekwon

in some ways, "timmy" is closer to early wu tang (like "Gold") in the way its evocativeness feels very spontaneous & rugged & real, where rae's new one, as great as it is, feels much more rehearsed & fill-in-the-blanks

i'm pretty confident that

"party of the lenses?"

is "cartier the lenses"

http://alotsneaker.com/Bimages/2009061809464373499.jpg

i love the verses on "trap going crazy" but there's something awkward about that hook that bugs me. sounds like a rush job deliverywise, i suspect it's a first take or something. any of you know who raps the third verse on "excuse me"? it's my favourite song on the tape and there's no guest listed but that last verse sure don't sound like gucci to these ears:

i'm in the bank making depos
while ya'll be gettin repo'd
i'm zero zero zero comma zero after zero

does he have a song called "Timmy" too or is deej just so close to "Timothy" now that he's on a nickname basis with the song?

that depos/repo'd verse is definitely gucci

xp to ship - lol yes deej is on nickname basis with the song

re: "trap goin crazy" - "see the frozen crystals when i hit the cigarillo" is maybe my favorite image that he's painted ever

also a slight correction to my transcription of the third verse

"180 greasy will have you outside in a bummer" is actually " will have you outside in a bundle"

personally i think the chorus is dope, i think the linear progression of it is very natural & sensical & flows really well in a manner that is kind of hard to quantify in a catchy chorus. i mean obv that's because of the thurs-sun narrative but still.

"see the frozen crystals when i hit the cigarillo" -> yessssssss

gucci mane & drumma boi - follow me (off guccimerica)

my chain is really stupid but my swag is real retaaarded
im shittin on all these haters like im rappin on the toiiilet
my wordplay is unique, its so sweet that i keep a cavity
yo money is petite, my money defies laws of gravity
so quarantine the studio cuz gucci got a sick flow
sicker than tuberculosis, i keep spittin these cancer verses
so please give me a cancer stick cuz i just fucked all over ya
my lunch they cost me half a brick cuz we ate in cambodia
made seven million after taxes
guess yall just have to practice
see the world through gucci glasses
yep, i said gucci glasses
and if i had no daddy then that mean id be a bastard child
my pistol'll whip you like ya daddy
i'll smoke you like a black n mild

my flow so super-sweet, every verse i get a cavity
drop me so deep off in yo girl yo girlfriend wanna marry me
mind so fuckin sick that they quarantine the studio
the diamonds in my ear clearer than a shot of julio
gucci mane la flare got beef like hardees
if grandaddy was livin i would buy grandad a harley
i am not a role model, like Charles Barkley
yes i am a role model, everybody follow me
follow me,
follow me,
everybody follow me,
Obama called me yesterday and told me gucci follow cool
follow me,
follow me,
everbody follow me
and if you wanna be a leader i suggest you follow me

nothing like a wise man,
im fixed on the prize man
and if i told you you was dope than i would be a lyin man
fire than the fire man
hotter than the frying pan
and you would never see me homie, its like you a blind man
i started my own label cause i am my own man
you niggas are not a label
yall too fuckin old, man
go pick up some ol cats
then pick up my ol facts
then pick up my ol albums, study me and learn man
gucci got a old soul
but he got that new swag
jumpin out his rolls royce
flexin on yall broke ass
i just got some mo problems cuz i got some mo cash
i just been out four months,
caught up with ya, blown past

[chorus again]

[??] wrist a hundred k, my white wrist two hundred thou
my necklace cost 500 crack, earrings cost me 60 pack
20 on this pinkie baby where we at? 900 man
hundred cash for pocket change so ima rock a million
so icey's a army and you just a civilian
seats are all reptilian, my girlfriend is sicilian
if i said i wasnt the best
id be lying to ya
if you asked me to be honest,
i would say that im the truth
im the truth
im the truth
just like my neice she snaggle-toothed
but still she so stupid-cute
you ask her she say i'm the truth
hear the verse so fuckin sick they quarantine the vocal booth,
my auntie told me go home get rest, water and a lotta soup
guuucciiii

[chorus]

all my boys tote choppers so yo best bet robbin armored trucks
georgia boys dont give a fuck well take you and well tie you up

chop you up? lol memory

he's definitely more jocular & comical on a lot of the cold war tracks - probably a mix of them fucking around in the studio & just wanting a different mood/vibe coming off the burrprint

still can't get passed burrprint tbh - hoping to dig in to cold war later this week/this weekend

it's so lol to me on the intro to "trap goin crazy" when drama is like YALL SEEN ME MATURE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES

like no, you are just a disembodied voice that brings mad lols with your self-imposed nicknames. same as always dude.

in my red farrari sittin on spinners, tinted windows

even tho it's ostensibly a song about flossing, "trap goin crazy" has such an overwhelming sense of doom & that's why i think the second verse is so key to the song

MY FLOW HAS BEEN FROSTBIT
HATERS WISHED I LOST IT

EVER SINCE A YOUNGSTER
MY RHYMES HAVE BEEN BONKERS
I DESERVE AN ENCORE

i don't have to bore her, financially support her
he do all that lame stuff, i just keep it gangsta

what are the opening lines of the second verse of "excuse me"

i pull in zomba(?), he pulls up in honda
[??] garden state but mine's an anaconda

wrist like the arctic, my neck is like a jungle
wardrobe full of animals my closet's like the congo
motor is a monster, trunk is a gorilla
ask me where my top is at, i left it with the dealer

<3 this so much

a Pagani Zonda:

http://www.sportscarcup.com/cars/pagani-zonda-f.jpg

TRYIN TO BE LIKE GUCCI MANE BUT HE DON'T HAVE A SWAG
HE NEEDS TO TAKE HIS JEWELRY OFF AND THROW IT IN THE TRASH

xp thank u sam

http://i42.tinypic.com/jgs7fb.jpg

that's not gonna end well

maxi pad diamonds on, redder than that bitch you have
taxi cab diamonds homie, yellow like my yellow lam
toni braxton diamonds on, black and pretty, shining baby
miley cyrus diamonds on, Caucasian cuz im not racist
pacific ocean diamonds on, blue like off the coast of cali
citrus-color carats on, like juiceman im straight for sun valley
shoulder lean, necklace on, pink stones like [???] be wearin
money color diamonds, same color as the cash i carry

song should be called 'inventory'

my lam is where the glock is
wrist is where the rocks is
kush so loud you can smell the shit in knoxville

sippin syrup with my girl from europe

goddamn the beat on 'n.e.r.d.'

i got a murda one, i just killed the parkin lot
decapitated bmw, i cut off the top

i think one of the unintroduced tensions in this stuff is the feeling that he's gonna eventually run out of ways to say stuff! like, look at how many images he 'burns' in just that diamonds hook i just quoted ... its like, you feel the need to hear it all cuz at some pt hes just simply gonna run out of ideas ... (admittedly this may be a more fan/obsessive perspective than casual fan one)

i think that too but then he writes a chorus like the one in "excuse me"

stuff like the multiple sweet=cavity lines make me feel like he's not that far off sometimes (although even as i say that "Follow Me" might my favorite song off these recent tapes)

Ummm, maybe he could talk about something other than cars, ice and women?

it seems like every few months he gets stuck on a few different words that populate his songs of that time and then he kind of moves off onto something else. on burrprint/cold war there are lots of uses of "sauna" & i don't think i remember him using "ornament" up until v recently.

not much to that except that maybe he's still got a bunch of words to fixate on and grow off of. kind of just an observation tho.

Ummm, maybe he could talk about something other than cars, ice and women?

― Samuel (a hoy hoy), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:27 PM (54 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

did u hear "timothy" yet

man I want to be able to re-parse "repetitive" with as much verve as deej does here

i think one thing i like about how he talks about cars, ice & women is ... i always think of one of the first pieces of rap writing that really got me thinking, & it was kelefa sanneh on jay-z right before blueprint dropped -- he was talking about how jay's tendency w/ bragging about that kind of shit was that it was ultimately empty, that jay-z was not a hedonist, he was all about status -- you never know how the champagne tastes, etc -- anyway with gucci its still very much about status, no doubt, but there's also an element of joyousness (and most definitely hedonism) in his descriptions of his status symbols ... they're not 'just' symbols, they color his world -- plus his party songs are obviously far more hedonistic

I was just being dense when I mentioned cars, ice and women. Of course he raps about other stuff. (And yeah, Timothy and Dope Boys from Burrprint are ridic).

Also, DJ Scream - his voice is makes me just think of Westwood at his worst. It's terrible.

i think one thing i like about how he talks about cars, ice & women is ... i always think of one of the first pieces of rap writing that really got me thinking, & it was kelefa sanneh on jay-z right before blueprint dropped -- he was talking about how jay's tendency w/ bragging about that kind of shit was that it was ultimately empty, that jay-z was not a hedonist, he was all about status -- you never know how the champagne tastes, etc -- anyway with gucci its still very much about status, no doubt, but there's also an element of joyousness (and most definitely hedonism) in his descriptions of his status symbols ... they're not 'just' symbols, they color his world -- plus his party songs are obviously far more hedonistic

― i got nothin (deej), Wednesday, 21 October 2009 23:35 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark

Makes me think that Wu-Tang might not just influence the beats, the second Ghost verse on

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Esme7cRZu7o

seems like a precursor to Gucci's way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7vxgljd3bA

love this new one

That chain is horrible.

ironically, i'm chronically
twisting up that chronic, blinded
blowin smoke out constantly

man I want to be able to re-parse "repetitive" with as much verve as deej does here

― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:31 PM (30 minutes ago) Bookmark

this really isn't it though. he just riffs on hyper-specific themes & sometimes he repeats some things to sort of stay grounded, like how a freestyle rapper keeps some rhymes in his head to restart himself

it seems like every few months he gets stuck on a few different words that populate his songs of that time and then he kind of moves off onto something else. on burrprint/cold war there are lots of uses of "sauna" & i don't think i remember him using "ornament" up until v recently.

not much to that except that maybe he's still got a bunch of words to fixate on and grow off of. kind of just an observation tho.

― brrrmuda triangle (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, October 21, 2009 5:28 PM (34 minutes ago) Bookmark

would like to add "arizona" to this

deej here is an mp3 of that http://www24.zippyshare.com/v/789628/file.html

great zay beat

this really isn't it though. he just riffs on hyper-specific themes & sometimes he repeats some things to sort of stay grounded, like how a freestyle rapper keeps some rhymes in his head to restart himself

so he's the craig finn of rap is what you're saying

ha kind of