siouxsie and the banshees: classic or dud? search and destroy

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"Song From The Edge Of The World" = Heaven on Earth.

It is a little alarming to realize how much Siouxsie Schtick Karen O has appropriated (actually The Yeah Yeah Yeahs sound like they put Scream-era Banshees on heavy repeat for the entirety of their teenage years but that's another thread) but I'll take it in whatever form I can get it.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 March 2005 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

"Sin In My Heart" is also absolutely wonderful. My teenaged self is screaming in frustration at me for not having enough money back then to buy all of the Siouxsie albums in addition to the Cure albums.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:03 (twenty-one years ago)

i've been listening to siouxsie all week.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

I caught the video for "Dear Prudence" on VH1Classic this morning before heading out to work. Nice way to start an otherwise dreary day.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 March 2005 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
AHEM...

(Apparently I am the only person who thinks "Dear Prudence" is deeply embarrassing.)

-- Dan Perry (djperr...), March 17th, 2003.

Right there with ya, Dan. Never liked their cover of "Dear Prudence."

-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), March 17th, 2003.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Tuesday, 3 May 2005 19:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Seeing Siouxsie, regardless of what she's singing, is still a nice way to start an otherwise dreary day, so eat a big bag of throbbing cocks, Bob.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 01:36 (twenty-one years ago)

I fully expect people to start investigating whether this constitutes adequate grounds for have me sectioned; however I do actually prefer The Banshees' versions of Dear Prudence and Helter Skelter to The Beatles'.

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 07:08 (twenty-one years ago)

If it's the Nocturne version of Helter Skelter, agree. The Scream version is a bit flat for me - but I think the whole production of that album hasn't aged well.

The Nocturne version of 'Dear Prudence' is appalling - but I quite like the shimmering quality of the single.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Also,

search: the authorised biography.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:42 (twenty-one years ago)

There isn't a single version of the song "Dear Prudence" in existence that isn't absolute shit. I really, really hate the song, it doesn't matter who does it.

Conversely, every version of "Helter Skelter" is awesome, including U2's.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"The Beatles stole this song from Siouxsie. Fucking punks. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA."

(This could only have improved Rattle and Hum.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

like r.e.m., the very first work they ever did was brilliant -- possibly the greatest punk rock ever. (the demos roar unconfined by the dated production on _the scream_.) subsequent early releases showed great songs nearly destroyed by the senselessly thin pop production. and like r.e.m., they turned to shit too soon and stayed way too long.

Everything in this paragraph makes my head spin

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 14:54 (twenty-one years ago)

From the authorised biography, you can learn such facts as that the Banshees sold three times as many t-shirts when they ended their shows with 'Dear Prudence'.

[Also that Jon Klein was sacked for hair-loss...Before reading that I always thought there was a rock'n'roll gene that somehow ensured that an unlikely percentage of males in the music business (except Elton John & Phil Collins) keeps a full head of hair.]

Bob Six (bobbysix), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

From the authorised biography, you can learn such facts as that the Banshees sold three times as many t-shirts when they ended their shows with 'Dear Prudence'.

This is kind of all the reasons why I hate people encapsulated in an evil little parable.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 4 May 2005 17:23 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
Nocturne finally out on DVD!. As I had a VHS tape with only twelve of the sixteen songs this is rather good to hear.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 22 May 2005 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

OOooooh! Cheers, Ned!

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Sunday, 22 May 2005 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh hell yes! I've always wanted to see this...I was raised on the LP version.

I've been wanting to buy A Kiss in the Dreamhouse for years and years but keep waiting for the remaster and it never seems to come. *frowns*

Ian Riese-Moraine is on toffuti break! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 22 May 2005 17:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Search: Kaliedoscope and Juju
Destroy: everything that came after with the possible exception of the single "Isreal"

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 22 May 2005 19:37 (twenty-one years ago)

You've desecrated my post! A Kiss in the Dreamhouse and Nocturne came after that and it's my favourite era of Siouxsie! "Painted Bird", "Cascade", "Fireworks", "Melt!", and so on = utterly divine.

Ian Riese-Moraine is on toffuti break! (Eastern Mantra), Sunday, 22 May 2005 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

(x-post) You're buggin'.

Everything up to the "Song From the Edge Of The World" 12" has much merit.

Not too familiar with their output post - "Peek A Boo"

Jay Vee (Manon_70), Sunday, 22 May 2005 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Each of their albums has got some great tracks on them.

They had some problems with lyrics, for example this one from Arabian Knights:

Whilst you conquer more orifices
Of boys, goats and things

(oh 'things' - that'll do)

but the texture of their music is fantastic.

Bob Six (bobbysix), Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Eastern Mantra, I think this means that I am about 4 years older than you, and nothing else. Sorry 'bout that desecration--- Absolve me!

Orbit (Orbit), Sunday, 22 May 2005 21:48 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
"Whilst you conquer more orifices
Of boys, goats and things"

you have to forgive them for 'things' since the previous line uses Whilst and orifices. I always like how often SATB use the word 'Whilst'

Pete Baumann, Tuesday, 28 June 2005 14:09 (twenty years ago)

Yeah I like their version of Dear Prudence better than the Beatles' too. It's so psychedelic/groovy sounding, and the video's great.

The Silent Disco of Glastonbury (Bimble...), Wednesday, 29 June 2005 21:56 (twenty years ago)

How's the quality of the Nocturne DVD?

Ian Riese-Moraine has been xeroxed into a conduit! (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 30 June 2005 13:52 (twenty years ago)

The Nocturne DVD hasn't been released. The band blocked it because it was being hastily released by the label without any remastering/extras of any significance. Hopefully it will be coming out in a more deluxe form in the future. (all this is according to steve severin's forum)

Pete Baumann, Thursday, 30 June 2005 18:20 (twenty years ago)

three years pass...

"Waiting FOOOOOOR a sign..."

Listening to a okay-enough sounding recording from Southampton on the Juju tour in 1981 right now. Such a great band.

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 July 2008 03:00 (seventeen years ago)

From 1983 until 1986 the only (then) new music i bothered with was the Banshees.

Nothing else seemed even vaguely interesting, although there was much hilarity.

i, grey, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 04:27 (seventeen years ago)

I was just thinking of Siouxsie the other day -- I saw the 4CD box set used the other day, wondered if i shouldn't go ahead and pick it up. i have all but maybe two of the studio albums. is this worth my money?

stephen, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:23 (seventeen years ago)

Yeah, I think it's well worth it. It's got a lot of totally classic b-sides I remember, sprinkled with plenty of other stuff that wasn't quite as good but almost always interesting. It's also got a lot less of the earliest punk-style stuff than I suspected, which I was glad about.

I was thinking of them just the other day too! Some lyric came into my head..."you're not seeing/what meant to believe in/your non-excuse for a human being..." I think that was it.

Bimble, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 20:35 (seventeen years ago)

i wonder if the rest of the remasters will ever come out.

akm, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:25 (seventeen years ago)

Hah, I was thinking that the other day.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 9 July 2008 21:39 (seventeen years ago)

Box set is totally worth it for the B-sides.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 10 July 2008 00:22 (seventeen years ago)

one year passes...

Given that I've just really started getting into Siouxsie and The Banshees recently I thought I'd ressurect this thread.

I had 'Hyena' for a while which I'd bought because of the Robert Smith collection. I recently picked up 'Nocturne' on the basis of Ned's recommendation. Since then I've been super hooked. Bought "Kaleidoscope", "Juju" and "A Kiss in the Dreamhouse" which are all great as well. Will pick up "The Scream" and "Join Hands" this weekend. Given that I've started with live stuff I'm thinking about getting the BBC box when I get paid. What about the remaining albums? What should I prioritise?

AnotherDeadHero, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 12:08 (sixteen years ago)

I quite like the b-sides boxset: full of oddities and "experiments", but it is great great fun.

Marco Damiani, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 13:01 (sixteen years ago)

I'd pick up the remainder as they get reissued.

sheryl crow but with a very long butt (HI DERE), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 14:26 (sixteen years ago)

I think Severin confirmed somewhere that the rest of the reissues have been cancelled.

akm, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 19:41 (sixteen years ago)

WAHT

oh that is BULLSHIT

sheryl crow but with a very long butt (HI DERE), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 19:42 (sixteen years ago)

http://stevenseverin.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=557&sid=e7a3abfd7462317614a72f1d472f348e

akm, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 19:49 (sixteen years ago)

Unacceptable.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 20:13 (sixteen years ago)

this sucks a lot

sheryl crow but with a very long butt (HI DERE), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 20:14 (sixteen years ago)

Siouxsie and the Banshees Benched Reissues-ees?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 20:16 (sixteen years ago)

i'm not sure those records really need to be remastered. they sound fine. it would be nice to have a full set of the whole catalogue and some other bonus tracks, but I think the critical albums were done. whether you like the mastering job on them is another thing entirely I suppose.

akm, Wednesday, 17 February 2010 20:37 (sixteen years ago)

I was using the reissues as an excuse to build up my Banshee catalogue; before now, I had cassette copies of Hyaena, Tinderbox and Peepshow and a copy of Superstition on CD. Now I have them all up through Kiss in the Dreamhouse.

sheryl crow but with a very long butt (HI DERE), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 20:41 (sixteen years ago)

Just buy the damn things, Dan, they are super cheap used at a ton of stores.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_i_0?rh=i%3Apopular%2Ck%3Asiouxsie&keywords=siouxsie&ie=UTF8&qid=1266439875

http://www.secondspin.com/search.jsp?page=1&type=music.keyword.buy&query=siouxsie

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 17 February 2010 20:51 (sixteen years ago)

six months pass...

Through The Looking Glass... great covers album or the greatest covers album?

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 23 August 2010 01:49 (fifteen years ago)

It's the covers album that, when I was 14, turned me on to lots of bands by virtue of making me look for them. Back before the internet, that took a certain amount of work...and they didn't make it easy, not listing the original artists in the liner notes and all.

Johnny Fever, Monday, 23 August 2010 01:51 (fifteen years ago)

it was years before I knew that "wheel's on fire" was a cover. siouxsie's still sounds like the right one to me.

akm, Monday, 23 August 2010 03:57 (fifteen years ago)

four years pass...

Hello. So a few weeks back there was that photo of Siouxsie, Steve Severin and Marc Almond at the _Hannibal_ season premiere event in the UK, and that was cool and all. Apparently it's just been announced that's there's a whole new Siouxsie and the Banshees track for the season finale!

https://twitter.com/TVKevLance/status/620028442172481536

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 12 July 2015 00:39 (ten years ago)

I would certainly be up for some new Siouxsie with Banshees in tow!

TheSkysGoneOut (Jason Pitzl-Waters), Sunday, 12 July 2015 23:45 (ten years ago)


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