Vincent Gallo.... C/D?

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I second the Manny Farber recommendation. He wrote better than any critic I've ever read, despite seemingly only liking 3 or 4 movies. (He said he liked Howard Hawks but didn't have much praise for him beyond "Scarface.")

Rosenbaum's Small Soldiers/Ryan review was CLASSIC, just for its sheer insane chutzpah, although I agree that it was somewhat unfair. I think he's generally a good writer, and I appreciate his uniquely non-condescending attitude toward Orson Welles (which D. Thomson could take a lesson from), but his elitism grates, and his willingness to blame George Lucas for all the problems of the world is a bit stupid.

― Justyn Dillingham (Justyn Dillingham), Monday, 26 May 2003 08:59 (twenty-three years ago)

I really like the songs he did for Buffalo 66, so I say CLASSIC.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 26 May 2003 09:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh, by the way... I third Manny Farber. His essay on Taxi Driver is one of the flat-out best pieces of film criticism I've ever read. No discussion allowed on this.

Thank you Justyn for remembering that criticism can and often should be, among many other things, interesting-cum-fun.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 26 May 2003 11:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I can't remember who (might have been Charles Taylor, actually) that said something like "expertise in a field in which everyone assumes they are an expert is often dismissed as snobbery." Words of wisdom in my opinion.

But if I'm going to read a film critic (or a philosopher or a critic or a historian), I'm not interested in mere "expertise" in a field, however expert that expertise might be.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 26 May 2003 11:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Difference of opinion, then. Simple's that.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Monday, 26 May 2003 12:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Here's James Agee's 1948 review of the film You Were Meant for Me: "That's what you think."

Ha! I've always been a fan of pioneering smart-asses. Kael, too.

― scott seward, Monday, 26 May 2003 22:22 (twenty-three years ago)

i have never been opposed to interesting cum fun

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 26 May 2003 22:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Actually, a random purchase this weekend from the used bookstore reminded me again of the critical brilliance that is Joe Bob Briggs. All hail.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 26 May 2003 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

he lives on my block (or right around the corner) so i see him around fairly often. he gives off bad vibes, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

yancey, we must hang out more often...i am overdue for a gallo sighting...

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 31 May 2003 03:28 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't bother reading the other billion answers, so forgive me if this just reiterates what someone else said..

I dig him because he turned me on to "Heart of the Sunrise" by Yes on the Buffalo 66 soundtrack, and the fast parts of that song are the only Yes suff that have ever interested me and that song is pretty good, at least until the guy starts singing.

― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 31 May 2003 05:12 (twenty-three years ago)

I love people who only want to talk and could care less what anybody has to say.

― Mary (Mary), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:29 (twenty-three years ago)

me too!

― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 31 May 2003 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)

blowjob

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 05:54 (twenty-three years ago)

In his defence, VG was super good in two Claire Denis films, "Nenette et Boni" and if "Trouble Every Day" wasn't daring I don't know what is. Plus I really, really hope he managed to piss off Harmony Korine, whose films are completely wretched. And.. thinking about it.. the film as a flashpoint for all the french-american discord at Cannes is pretty interesting already. I hope it does find a US distributor, I'll go see it.

― daria g, Tuesday, 3 June 2003 06:46 (twenty-three years ago)

You have to admit VG seems like a foul show-off, very manipulative! I don't mean in that he puts the camera on himself or whatever, but not arguing with the critics, accepting what they say, then saying that French critics liking his movie was like 'salt in the wounds' - this is such a disarming response. The Village Voice calls him a 'renaissance perfectionist' but really, these two response are both so uncalled for - hatred and worship! He reminds me very much of Andy Warhol - he captures the 'scene' very well, - is man of society, and sometimes after you love something that he's done, you hate yourself for having been taken in by your own time.

― m-ry-nn (m-ry-nn), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 07:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Wow.

Sharp-tongued Vincent Gallo has launched a scathing attack on "fat pig" movie critic Roger Ebert - after the reviewer claimed the indie filmmaker apologized for making his widely slammed flick The Brown Bunny. The movie caused uproar at last month's Cannes Film Festival with its graphic oral sex scene between Gallo and actress Chloe Sevigny. But fuming Gallo vehemently denies he has apologized for making the film. He says, "I never apologized for anything in my life. I like the movie. I had 100 per cent creative and financial control of it and if I didn't like it, I would have changed it. The only thing I'm sorry about is putting a curse on Roger Ebert's colon. If a fat pig like Roger Ebert doesn't like my movie, then I'm sorry for him." Ebert wrote in American newspaper Chicago Sun-Times that Gallo had expressed regret for making Brown Bunny to a reporter from US movie magazine Screen International.

http://us.imdb.com/PeopleNews/2003/20030603/#2

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:04 (twenty-three years ago)

I prefer to believe Ebert.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:16 (twenty-three years ago)

The guy is way past dud and accelerating out the other side at Mach 10.

― Alex K (Alex K), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:27 (twenty-three years ago)

More on the Brown Bunny scandal: http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0323/peranson.php

― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:33 (twenty-three years ago)

goddamit I linked that already

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 15:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Fat Man shoots back at Misanthropic Provocateur:

"The (brown bunny) fur continues to fly between Roger Ebert and Vincent Gallo. Ebert says he has no idea what Gallo meant the other day when he bragged that he'd put a curse on the critic's colon, "but when I had my last colonoscopy, they let me watch it on a little TV, and it was far more entertaining than [Gallo's film] 'Brown Bunny.'" (N.Y. Post) "

― Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:15 (twenty-three years ago)

told!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:45 (twenty-three years ago)

this is the best dust-up ever

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 16:46 (twenty-three years ago)

as The Onion so eloquently put it (on a very different occasion), Ebert wins

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:01 (twenty-three years ago)

that's still one of my favorite onion moments!

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:04 (twenty-three years ago)

haha! i had forgotten about that.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:06 (twenty-three years ago)

wow, could Mark Peranson's article have had its nose a little further up Gallo's ass or what?

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:07 (twenty-three years ago)

gallo needs to record a "without me" style rant for his next album

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:08 (twenty-three years ago)

no, that would take an exertion of energy that goes against his whole passive-aggressive simp persona

― M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd like to hear him do a "Lose Yourself"-style personal power anthem myself.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:13 (twenty-three years ago)

can we have the phrase "anti-drama" banned for eternity?

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:15 (twenty-three years ago)

This whole debate is so boring. Gallo's mission no doubt achieved; what else did he want really? It's even likely his film will get distributed.

What's sad is that a number of mediocre American and European films in the festival's first half convinced a number of American journos to leave when some apparently wonderful films from Asia, without marquee directors, appeared out of competition in its final days.

― amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:17 (twenty-three years ago)

half the foreign press always clears out early and then goes 'what?!!! almodovar/von trier/whoevah didn't win? I didn't even see THAT movie!'

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:29 (twenty-three years ago)

"and ebert?/you can get clap from chloe/you 46 yr old fat fag..." *goes on the nod*

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:30 (twenty-three years ago)

A-MEN, amateurist! (re: the second part, though I agree on the first part as well)

(Even among the most intelligent sets it always boils down to the American films every year, doesn't it? This year wasn't only about Dogville, Elephant, Mystic River and Brown Bunny)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

paris hilton as kim mathers

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)

coco moore as hailie

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

harmony korine as benzino

― jess (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:37 (twenty-three years ago)

hahaha!

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Even among the most intelligent sets it always boils down to the American films every year

let's not forget about my hometown boy Denys Arcand!

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:38 (twenty-three years ago)

I didn't.... but my point was most would.

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, he did win a bunch of awards & get lots of coverage.

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:42 (twenty-three years ago)

that arcand flick got as much press as anything else ('the one flick miramax bought' etc.)

― James Blount (James Blount), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:43 (twenty-three years ago)

that's all I'm saying

― s1utsky (slutsky), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:45 (twenty-three years ago)

No, don't misunderstand me. I'm not saying that Arcand doesn't have or doesn't deserve the buzz he has (I'm sure I believe the opposite). What I'm talking about is the pre-competition buzz in American mainstream press which, if it exists at all, almost always focuses on the American films in competition or by directors who have had some success in America (Von Trier). That's what I was complaining about. (And, I'd add even further that I'm excited to see all of the American films in competition as much as I am to see Arcand, Desplechin, etc.)

― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 June 2003 17:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Entertainment Weekly claims its very unlikely anyone will ever see this movie. That would be a shame.

I liked Peranson's article. Also, Hoberman on Gallo was prime.

― Mary (Mary), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 00:52 (twenty-three years ago)

i "I stopped painting in 1990 at the peak of my success just to deny people my beautiful paintings. And I did it out of spite.""

Great quote, but he does seem to be a tosser.

http://www.buddyhead.com/other/vincentgallo/page_3.html

― Jim Eaton-Terry (Jim E-T), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 11:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Okay, so Gallo said Ebert has "the physique of a slave-trader," which stings considering Roger Dodger's wifey wifey. Anyway, Ebert strikes back:

http://www.suntimes.com/output/entertainment/cst-ftr-ebert04.html

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 14:15 (twenty-three years ago)

This came as a blow to the French. Their national pride could not abide the notion that an American film was worse than any of their own, and so a few days later they countered with Bertrand Blier's "Les Cotelettes."

Evil, but very funny.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 4 June 2003 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)

I want to see "The Brown Bunny" now just from the Ebert/Gallo feud. It cannot really be as bad as the critics have made it out to be. I think it is safe to say that Gallo has a better aesthetic sense than Ebert. Most critics are incapable of making a suitable film in the first place. Ebert would probably say that the Matthew Barney's "Cremaster" films are boring.

Obviously, "The Brown Bunny" is not for the mass audience, but you gotta give it to Vincent though for making something totally uncompromising and getting a ten million dollar budget for such a small scale operation.

Sounds like "The Brown Bunny" is heavily influenced by "Two Lane Blacktop," a masterpiece of film that is often derided as dull and boring by people who think Kevin Smith is bold and daring and just fucking hilarious.

We just don't have the attention span for such films anymore, and I suspect "The Brown Bunny" is such a film. I commend Gallo, even though I haven't seen the film yet. I hope this is not his last film.

― Cub, Wednesday, 4 June 2003 15:29 (twenty-three years ago)

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