C/D: Sonic Youth's GOO

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I sold it, but backed it up. (phew!)

Also, I mean, SHAKEYMO is on that track playing the key role, Ned!

― donut gon' nut (donut), Friday, 26 August 2005 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Also, I mean, SHAKEYMO is on that track playing the key role, Ned!

Wait, was that him? I'm amazed!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 August 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

I remember reading that a long time ago on here and getting a kick out of it... I've never heard the track, though. I thought he was yelling, "You [Thurston] fuck her [Kim]!!" I like it better this way.

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Friday, 26 August 2005 21:41 (twenty years ago)

More love for "Disappearer" here. That song finally made me invest in Goo at 15, as I decided I needed more of what had sounded like beautiful, massive, dense amplified folk music ("Dirty Boots" had also piqued my interest for similar reasons, after the fun but not quite essential "Kool Thing"). Swirly non-singles like "Mote", the kinda touching "Tunic" and "Cinderella's Big Score" didn't disappoint either. So, pretty classic based on teenage impact alone.

― Nag! Nag! Nag! (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Saturday, 27 August 2005 00:36 (twenty years ago)

Goo was SY's last great album.

― Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Saturday, 27 August 2005 00:39 (twenty years ago)

Unlike Alex, I really dig "Tunic." My interest turned to love when it played over the Maggie Cheung catburglar sequence in "Irma Vep."

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Saturday, 27 August 2005 00:41 (twenty years ago)

*CLAP CLAP* GARÇON! LE DELUXE GOO, S'IL VOUS PLAÎT!

i just had to come back and say that this has been making me laugh all night..

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 27 August 2005 01:41 (twenty years ago)

i heart goo. esp. side 1. not a dud on there.

side 2 is redeemed by titanium expose.

"it was all whirlwind, heat and flash. within a week we'd killed my parents and hit the road."

― xero, Saturday, 27 August 2005 02:30 (twenty years ago)

"Nothing.. Lipstick.. A little blood."

― poortheatre (poortheatre), Saturday, 27 August 2005 02:33 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

MERCI! MERCI!

(I just picked up Goo deluxe tonight. This is fucking great. The 8-track version of the album slays. A nine-minute "Blowjob (Mildred Pierce)".)

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

Byron mentions "The Bedroom" being recorded at Irvine Meadows. Is he mistaking UC Irvine Crawford Hall for Irvine Meadows in the liner notes? Or was this when Sonic Youth opened for Neil Young & Crazy Horse there?

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:25 (twenty years ago)

Well just for a 9-minute Mildred Pierce, I will have to pick this up..

― Baaderonixx and the choco-pop babies (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 14 September 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

Goddamn, this might be my favorite Deluxe Edition release ever... the only ones that rival it are Rick James's Street Songs and Donna Summer's Bad Girls. And I haven't cracked at the Bob Marley ones yet. (I'm talking specifically about the Deluxe Edition line by name, not just any deluxe edition release.)

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:09 (twenty years ago)

I am pleased with all this news.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

The liner notes are really fun to read, too. Byron Coley and Mark Kates do the honors. Lots of fun stories about the making of the album, ramping up to DGC, etc. wanting to call the album Blowjob? initially, and not getting to.. That's too bad, actually.

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:21 (twenty years ago)

From Blowjob to Goo sounds right.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:35 (twenty years ago)

Goo should have been Goo! really.. because from Blowjob? to Goo! would have been even better... Or better yet. Q: Have you not blowjob? A: You have Goo!.

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:37 (twenty years ago)

(sorry.. sub-custosian at best.)

(custos, i keed i keed)

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

Are these any different 8-track versions that were available on the Goo Demos CD?

― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:41 (twenty years ago)

I never had the original one. The real Sonic Youth fans are going to have to delurk to answer this one...

..but I'm guessing they are the same ones, but remastered. Also, there are two "Lee #2"s. There's the 8-track version, and the studio version, which I'm guessing was slanted for a B-side, but never got used. Which makes sense as "Lee #2" is a complete departure.. very pleasant and poppy. It's another secret reason to get this.

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:50 (twenty years ago)

It's too bad that Lee only got one track on Goo, thinking about it. At least it was one fucking motherlode of a track, though.. possibly his best.

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Friday, 16 September 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Doesn't he sing "Mote" as well as "Disappearer"?

― Sundar (sundar), Friday, 16 September 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

Thurston sings "disappearer"

― The Brainwasher (Twilight), Friday, 16 September 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

My world no longer makes sense.

― Sundar (sundar), Friday, 16 September 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

i just sold my old copy of Goo in anticipation of this one.

― gear (gear), Friday, 16 September 2005 20:36 (twenty years ago)

I was positive that Lee sang Mote as well...has never sounded like Thurston to me.

Byron Coley's notes actually irritated me, especially the bit at the front that was more or less saying "IF YOU NEVER HEARD THE ROCK BEFORE YOUR EARS SUCK NYAH NYAH ROCKIST ROCKIST BTW PEEPS OK".

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

just noticed sonicyouth.com has free mp3s of the live b-sides of the "Dirty Boots" cd single. One of their best releases in my opinion.

― Old School (sexyDancer), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 20:57 (twenty years ago)

It's pretty great Alex in NYC was talking about Black Dice back in the '02. I stand by my 3 year old assessment upthread.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:04 (twenty years ago)

Lee does sing "mote"

from this site
http://www.sonicyouth.com/mustang/new.html

Line-up:
Thurston - guitar
Kim - bass
Lee - guitar/vocals
Steve - drums/percussion
J. Mascis - backing vocals
w/ additional percussion by
nick sansano & don fleming

― Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:10 (twenty years ago)

The nine-minute "Mildred Pierce" and the "I Know There's An Answer" cover are great, the rest is...well, pretty unnecessary.

More annoyingly, I got a copy with fucked-up liners that repeat pages several times and leave others out. It's possibly intentional but definitely irritating.

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:14 (twenty years ago)

Goo's better than Dirty.

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:18 (twenty years ago)

DN, Goo and Dirty are all about equal for me these days.

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)

Byron Coley's notes actually irritated me, especially the bit at the front that was more or less saying "IF YOU NEVER HEARD THE ROCK BEFORE YOUR EARS SUCK NYAH NYAH ROCKIST ROCKIST BTW PEEPS OK".

Well, at least, this time, there seems to be more quotes from the band in his liner notes, which is what I was primarily interested in... Wasn't into his Deluxe Dirty liner notes... especially after giving Dirty a good listen, and confirming it sounded like a constipated Goo, but not in a good way.

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 22:59 (twenty years ago)

If/when I finally get the Dirty special edition, I can see myself listening only to the bonus disc.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 23:01 (twenty years ago)

As for your fucked liner notes, Dr. Bill, I'll double check, but I didn't notice any problems like that with mine. Maybe you should consider going back and getting a new copy if you still have your receipt?

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 23:03 (twenty years ago)

I'd sound far too pathetic doing it to make it worthwhile.

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Wednesday, 21 September 2005 23:56 (twenty years ago)

Seconded...no such repetition in my booklet. Just irritation.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

(Lee does sing "Mote". It's "Disappearer" that I was confused about.)

― Sundar (sundar), Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

yeah, the 8-trk demos ARE the Sonic Deth Goo Demos versions...
which i think make a good case for seeing how SY went from Point A (daydream) to Point B (goo/dirty). you can see how the song writing was changing into more focused territory but still pretty well wrapped in a gauzy layer o' fuzz/noize.

― eedd, Thursday, 22 September 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

Just wanted to speak up for the SY fans who lost interest after EVOL. There was the occasional flash of subsequent brilliance ("Schizophrenia", "Mote") but the sustained dark-dream-undertow was lost to the sands of time... it's odd that a band that was so important to me in '86 now is closing in on a 20 year losing streak. Jesus I'm old.

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:15 (twenty years ago)

What was the last SY album you bought, Edward?

― Alfred Soto (Alfred Soto), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:18 (twenty years ago)

Actually purchased with my hard earned money?
Master Dik

Listened to and/or owned a copy?
Daydream Nation
Whitey Album
Goo (actually listened to this quite a bit in some weird sado-masochistic ritual fashion)
Dirty
Experimental Jet-Set Trash and No Star
SYR1 / SYR3
Sonic Nurse

Have sampled songs here and there from other releases but have heard nothing to disprove my theory. Also saw them live a couple of times in the late 80s / early 90s.

― Edward III (edward iii), Thursday, 22 September 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

Any one of SY's '88-'92 albums >>>>> the rest of their non '88-'92 catalogue combined

― The Good Dr. Bill (The Good Dr. Bill), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

Edward somewhat OTM... Excellent taste and curating ability aside, Sonic Youth has yet to release an album on the scale of anything like Daydream Nation since. Goo was definitely the beginning of that slide.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Here's my SY "phase" breakdown

* Sonic Youth (1982)
* Confusion Is Sex, Kill Yr Idols (1983)
* Bad Moon Rising, EVOL, Sister, Master-Dik 12", Ciccone Youth (1985-1988)
* Daydream Nation, Goo, Dirty (1988-1992)
* Experimental Jet Set, Trash, And No Star, Washing Machine, A Thousand Leaves (1994-1998)
* NYC Ghosts & Flowers, Murray Street, and Sonic Nurse (2000-2004)

(The SYR series is its own parallel universe, though not completely unconnected. I left off some other odds and ends here and there like Silver Sessions (for Jason Knuth) for brevity.)

I did this because my appreciation of each "phase" (as I broke it down here) sways up and down in varying degrees. Sometimes, I want to listen to Sonic Nurse.. other times, I just want to here "Inhuman" REALLY fucking loud.

This probably speaks very highly of the band, if my opinion of the albums wavers up and down all around the catalog, all the time. I can't think of too many other bands where I'll revisit and revise my opinion on a band's oeuvre like that.

Currently, I'm re-appreciating the 1994-1998 phase... I don't see this as a sliding scale from the previous one at all! In fact, while it may have been a departure from Dirty, Experimental, etc. is a pretty damn stellar album, better than Dirty by miles -- I say this now of course.

― donut Get Behind Me Carbon Dioxide (donut), Thursday, 22 September 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

Ahh 'Goo'... The kind of album that only really makes sense if it hit you as a teen and without which teenage-dom would have been so much poorer.
Listening to the Deluxe version, I remember that being 16 can be the most awesome thing in the world.

― Baaderonixx and the hedonistic gluttons (baaderonixx), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 09:13 (twenty years ago)

Do I really need the Deluxe version? or is my original copy just fine?

― meister, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

its my first sonic youth album, but i remember being 13 and confused as to whether i should be impressed or disgusted by what i heard. like, "this is COOL? this sounds kinda bad."

i think goo's a really spotty, flawed album. its got great moments and then really really horrible moments -- which is kind of what's ultimately great about it. from what ive read about the recording process, it seems like they just went hog crazy with the advance form DGC. they set up mics in all corners of the room, the mixes were lousy, they did what they could to salvage it.

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 11:15 (twenty years ago)

Do I really need the Deluxe version? or is my original copy just fine?

I bought the vinyl version of the deluxe edition, largely because Goo was the only SY album I didn't have on vinyl, so I can't say if the CD sounds radically different than the original, but I didn't notice any major changes. The drums on "Dirty Boots" sounded a lot better, but that could also be due to the format. The live version of "The Bedroom", which I did have on vinyl prior to this, sounded better on the Dirty Boots EP, however.

That said, there's an interesting mini-essay by the guy that helped put together the deluxe edition, and all the sonic renovations they made, here: http://www.sonicyouthmedia.com/alt-main/goopop.html

― Vic Funk, Wednesday, 28 September 2005 12:13 (twenty years ago)

Vic, thank you for the link. Pretty much answers all the questions and then some.

I guess I should download those UC Irvine live show Mp3s while I can, if they are improved.

― donut hallivallerieburtonelli omg lol (donut), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

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