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I wish the lyrics were better, but I really like this album. The hooks are huge and it's sort of relentless and fun. Apparently there's a Mylo remix of "Somebody Told Me" that just came out that's good?

Chuckling at the Tomkat's Marquee (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Radiohead is poo.

More about the video; it's poorly spaced and under casted, badly shot esp. considering it's Moulin Rouged out; to make things worse, what's-his-name the lead singer can't even pretend to mime the words like he gives a flying fuck -- and it's one thing to be young and bored, but you're trying to sell the song...

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:27 (nineteen years ago) link

dude he is sooooo not pretending to be bored! he even shakes his body and flips his arms around "voila!"-style! and how can a video be under casted if its got Eric Roberts, some dancing lothario, tons of courtesans AND what appears to be a second-long shot of Scarlett Johnannsen dressed like a man!

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:29 (nineteen years ago) link

what did you want, Corey Feldman dressed as a pirate too?

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:30 (nineteen years ago) link

MULTIPLE SHOTS OF ERIC ROBERTS THROWING AN APPLE! YOU ARE BLIND.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:32 (nineteen years ago) link

ooh I just watched the video and it's okay on a certain level but really it should have been set in a really nasty goth club.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sure you're not doing this though are you

Sarcasm aside, no I'm not doing that. I'm just sick of the predictable "done before and better feh poo blah" attitude that permeates Every. Single. Thread. about any nu-rock band that commits the unpardonable sin of, you know, using guitars. I'm also sick of the sweeping condemnation of said bands sucking for no discernible reason than these people care to explain other than "they exist" and "it was done better by some band nobody cares about anymore". And I'm sick of the "hipster" strawman being delivered by people more provincial and snobbish than any hipster I've ever met.

If it makes you feel better, Thin Lizzy's Live and Dangerous is my favorite late '70s rock album right now. Feel that voib, whydon't'cha.

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:57 (nineteen years ago) link

(It also bears mentioning that my username comes from a Patton Oswalt bit about how America invades countries and ruins everything, sort of like a retarded trust fund child: "This country's nice, can we have Disneyworld?" "This is Paris-" "DISNEYWORLD!" "All right, all right, fine... please, don't blow us up." "What's this country, Biblevania?" "Israel." "I WANT A WATERSLIDE!")

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 18:59 (nineteen years ago) link

So, in conclusion, I am not Bush, I did not vote for Bush, and I in no way whatsoever even remotely resemble Bush. I just find it funny that some people (British or otherwise) have this kneejerk thing: "THE NME LIKES THEM! OUT COME THE BASEBALL BATS!" (See, I used an American weapon there.)

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Thank you teeny, I appreciate that.

Also, who wants to see Scarlett Johanssen dressed as a man?

Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:17 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not really sure it was her. She looked like she was playing Oscar Wilde.

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:28 (nineteen years ago) link

"I wish the lyrics were better"

The lyrics are bizarro.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Tuesday, 11 January 2005 19:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Anglo-yank wars aside, THEY SOUND -- SPEAKING OBJECTIVELY -- LIKE SHED SEVEN.

Baxter, friend to bears, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 09:30 (nineteen years ago) link

The Killers next single should be "She Left Me On Friday".

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 13:21 (nineteen years ago) link

it's actually going to be 'This Is How It Feels'

Stevem On X (blueski), Wednesday, 12 January 2005 13:32 (nineteen years ago) link

My g/f had a somewhat Kate-esque reaction to the singer: skinny British foppish indie b0yz0rz yay. The shoe's on t'other foot now!

Miles Finch, Wednesday, 12 January 2005 14:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I find it bewildering how the Killers' Hot Fuss can mix excitement and brilliance with dullness and naffness in equal measure - there doesn't seem to be an overall feel to the album at all which I can detect. When the initial song "Jenny Was A Friend of Mine" (which I think is the best track on the album incidentally) started I thought "Hmm, early Duran Duran copyists" coz it is startling how good a Le Bon impression Brandon Flowers does on this song! The instrumentation is cool too...there's a lot going on there, it's a good song to listen to for seeing how many layers one can detect.

But, on the other hand, we have the absolutely dreadful track "Glamorous Indie Rock and Roll"...at least it does exactly what it says on the tin - the song is every bit as dire as the title would suggest! It is songs like that where I fear for the bands' future - will they sound exactly like the Stereophonics on the second album? The likes of "Glamorous Indie Rock and Roll" make me tremble at the possibility.

MarkH (MarkH), Saturday, 15 January 2005 15:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I just find it funny that some people (British or otherwise) have this kneejerk thing: "THE NME LIKES THEM! OUT COME THE BASEBALL BATS!" (See, I used an American weapon there.)

You should have been culturally sensitive and said "Out come the teapots, wot wot!"

miccio (miccio), Saturday, 15 January 2005 16:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Who the FUCK are Shed 7, and why should I care?

Curt1s St3ph3ns, Saturday, 15 January 2005 17:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I will continue to defend the Killers. Saw them live, enjoyed it lots. However MarkH OTM re: "Glamourous Indie Rock n' Roll" - if their next album is a bunch of songs like that, I will be forced to smash the CD underneath my boot and place the shards of plastic in the toilet and FLUSH. What WERE they thinking? Strangely, though it looks like they left that track off the U.S. version of the album. So someone must have had a sense of quality control.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Saturday, 15 January 2005 22:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Musical guest on Saturday Night Live tonight, by the way.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Saturday, 15 January 2005 22:36 (nineteen years ago) link

CRAP

LSD ARISTOCAT (ex machina), Saturday, 15 January 2005 22:38 (nineteen years ago) link

What, did you stub your toe or something?

What's this place, Biblevania? (natepatrin), Sunday, 16 January 2005 06:04 (nineteen years ago) link

will they cover "lament" ?

uidge mre, Sunday, 16 January 2005 06:26 (nineteen years ago) link

If you don't appreciate the Killers you have cloth in your ears. Especially if you like Moz or Smiths at all and you don't appreciate them then as far as I'm concerned you have some serious explaining to do. Seriously, Moz aside, what worries me is the idea that the corporate media machine is putting cloth in people's ears to the point that they are rendered UNABLE TO GRASP THE SIMPLE, REFRESHING DELIGHT OF THE KILLERS. What does this say about the future of music? If by some insane miracle, another John, George, Paul & Ringo appeared at our door, would we all just be too cynical, too deaf to hear it? Not that I'm trying to compare the Killers to Beatles, that's not what I'm getting at. What I am getting at is this: If a Killer falls in the woods and no one is there to hear it, does it make a sound?

AND THE ANSWER IS YES IT DOES, BECAUSE THE TEENAGERS KNOW. EVEN IF YOU DON'T. AND TEENAGERS RULE THE WORLD.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 16 January 2005 13:19 (nineteen years ago) link

I *do* appreciate the Killers and like the album as I said before, but at the same time I am puzzled and frustrated by its inconsistency. Maybe it's one of those albums which demonstrates the importance of putting the tracksin a sensible order, which is something you only notice when ppl get it wrong, as clearly the Killers have. The most upbeat immediate tracks are all at the beginning! Couldn't they have spaced them out?!

Brandon's vox are so varied on the album - ok, so he sounds just like Le Bon on "Jenny Was a Friend of Mine", but on "Mr Brightside" he starts by sounding just like the person who sings on Underworld's "Born Slippy" only to transmogrify into Midge Ure. Which does beg the question - should we applaud him for his vocal range and ability to adopt different styles of singing, or criticize him for cynically trying to win over ppl who have fond memories of those records of the past?

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 16 January 2005 13:43 (nineteen years ago) link

shed seven are the new beatles.

Hari A$hur$t (Toaster), Sunday, 16 January 2005 13:46 (nineteen years ago) link

Incidentally, "Smile Like You Mean It" seems to be the musical equivalent of one of those used cars which get mentioned on consumer programmes sometimes which are actually bits of two cars welded together. The synth lines on it are superb and sound exciting, but the vocals on the chorus are rather tired sounding and heading distressingly in the direction of stadium rock.

MarkH (MarkH), Sunday, 16 January 2005 13:52 (nineteen years ago) link

The lead singer has an unmistakable Ian Astbury tone to his voice (something I never noticed untilo their SNL appearance last night).

mike a, Sunday, 16 January 2005 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm not exactly sure how Hot Fuss is getting so much praise as an album. There's some great standout tracks, but it's wholly inconsistant. I really want to like them as a band, but I don't hear much to be excited about. And I'm guessing that the first single off their second album will probably be another "Walk Idiot Walk" which doesn't get nearly as much attention as their first album singles.

billstevejim, Sunday, 16 January 2005 18:14 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, the Killers have had a lot more pop crossover success than the Hives did. I think the next album could be their Rio!

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 16 January 2005 18:16 (nineteen years ago) link

I think the album is quite consistent, personally.

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Sunday, 16 January 2005 18:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Amen, brother.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Sunday, 16 January 2005 20:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I dunno, the Killers have had a lot more pop crossover success than the Hives did. I think the next album could be their Rio!

Do you think they really have potential for Boy Band status? That would be awesome if they did.

billstevejim, Sunday, 16 January 2005 21:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Well more than the Hives. They sing about sex and lots of it, for one thing. And they wear eyeliner and make hammy videos.

http://www.parachromatic.com/bFlowers11.jpg

from Ultragrrrl's blog.

"Has anyone seen the new video for the Killers' "Mr. Brightside"? I have a totally abstract crush on Brandon Flowers, but when I see that video, that abstract crush is a totally full-on crush and my vagina explodes. When I told him this, which i did cause I've got no shame, he was blown away from that term and asked if that was a good thing. Yes, it's a good thing. H-E-A-R-T-T-H-R-O-B."

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 16 January 2005 21:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Nobody writes this about Howlin' Pelle.

miccio (miccio), Sunday, 16 January 2005 21:23 (nineteen years ago) link

I saw them on SNL and started remembering back when I listend to early-mid 90s alterna and tried to look for "meaning" in lyrics that were all the same strung-together mildly impressionistic random poetryesqe junk with the same dull metaphors and words over and over.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I see.

Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:09 (nineteen years ago) link

And how long have these symptoms appeared?

Bimble... (Bimble...), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:10 (nineteen years ago) link

i hate this band for totally silly specific personal reasons. but i don't think they're that great, regardless.

g--ff (gcannon), Monday, 17 January 2005 03:20 (nineteen years ago) link

I think I might've ran into Brandon Flowers one time at a Duran concert. A Duran concert from back in ca. 2000, i.e. very probably pre-Killers days, so it doesn't count as a "celeb" sighting so much as a "pre-celeb" one. We smiled at each other in the "yeah, I know, the whole line thing is a bitch but hey, we can commiserate with each other" sorta way.

Actually, chances are very good it *was* Brandon -- the guy looked pretty much exactly like the Brandon still up above from the "Mr. Brightside" video, and he himself vouched for the fact that he attended at least one of the Vegas concerts during the Pop Trash tour, so, um, yeah.

Samantha Baker (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 17 January 2005 08:37 (nineteen years ago) link

So for pure personal bias' sake, um, yeah, The Killers = killer.

Samantha Baker (Dee the Lurker), Monday, 17 January 2005 08:38 (nineteen years ago) link

The Killers just don't do it for me, I don't know why. I don't hear the Duran Duran comparisons but then again, I wasn't all that excited about new Duran Duran either. It's good to see Roger Taylor still holding up after all these years. He was always my favorite.

Sara Sherr, Monday, 17 January 2005 09:13 (nineteen years ago) link

The Killers didn't tour with Morrissey: they opened for him once or twice. He put "Jenny was a Friend of mine" on his NME Songs that Saved Your Life CD though, ha ha. Over Christmas I was in the car with my sister listening to what used to be the alterna-station WHFS and this guy was moaning and my sister said what's that and I said, I think . . . it's the Killers. It was and my sister was impressed with my youth-cred. I then heard the the same song every hour on the hour. And it was like #8 on their Top 99.1 songs of the year. So I realized, I guess they have made it big in America (I thought they were gonna be yet another NME-band. That station (I read yesterday) has just rolled over to become Latin Pop. Apparently Brandon F was a bellhop in Vegas and secretly went into Bono's bag to lift an album demo from him: as their were no vocals he didn't copy it for his friends. I don't understand though . . . how are they any worse than any other new hot young band on the cover of NME?

Mary (Mary), Monday, 17 January 2005 18:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Nobody writes this about Howlin' Pelle.

I was just using The Hives as an example because, to the best of my knowledge, it's the most recent example of radio ignoring the first single off the follow-up record. I could have said "My Favourite Game" by The Cardigans I guess..

billstevejim, Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:20 (nineteen years ago) link

Every time I hear they're famous I scratch my head. A very nothing band.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:31 (nineteen years ago) link

this from a guy who has reviewed every Alphaville album

miccio (miccio), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:32 (nineteen years ago) link

If there are any Alphaville albums after 1990 then they should probably be left to rot in a corner somewhere.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 00:33 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
They are fixated on early 80s pop/new wave, that's for sure. I just listened to Hot Fuss for the 1st time this morning and heard steals from the Cure, Duran Duran, Depeche Mode, and even Erasure. I think Placebo was doing all of this stuff way, way better in 1998.

ffirehorse (firehorse), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 16:05 (nineteen years ago) link

Am I dreaming or is Brandon affecting an English accent when he sings?

Tantrum (Tantrum The Cat), Wednesday, 2 March 2005 20:05 (nineteen years ago) link


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