Defend the Indefensible: Vanilla Ice and MC Hammer...

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i don't even think the rap is bad on ice ice baby. that song rules.

mc hammer was pretty great for awhile.

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 10 December 2007 22:05 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm pretty sure hammer is on the thank u list for both it takes a nation of millions to hold us back AND straight outta compton, what the fuck have u done?

M@tt He1ges0n, Monday, 10 December 2007 22:06 (sixteen years ago) link

I had more money than he did a few years ago!

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 03:28 (sixteen years ago) link

i don't even think the rap is bad on ice ice baby. that song rules.

the problem is that when the beat drops out he loses the rhythm and rushes his lines

Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link

I kinda feel that Hammer was more genuine (although he did modify his style with the times on Funky Headhunter)...but neither have any staying power and Ice just turned into a joke.

"Hard to Swallow"......haha

Bo Jackson Overdrive, Tuesday, 11 December 2007 03:33 (sixteen years ago) link

one year passes...

Saw MC Hammer last night at Universal Mardi Gras. Now, let me explain...

I wasn't really into music much as a kid, but I loved MC Hammer. At least the Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em and 2 Legit 2 Quit albums. So part of me wanting to go was for the novelty of reliving my youth a bit - I figured that even though now I'm not really into this music, the show would be fun and entertaining.

My fucking God, now I know why he left the limelight. The dude just can't put on a show anymore. He didn't even look like he was prepared to perform.

His 'dancers' entered a lit stage in awkward silence, and then Hammer walked onstage in front of a silent crowd (who probably didn't believe a concert would begin with such little fanfare). He then launched into something from Turn This Mutha Out, and after the song ended, he and his entire entourage left the stage...he went to the man operating the Mac computer to ask him what song was next.

Except he did this after EVERY SONG (left the stage, that is). There were long gaps between each song, and an unintentionally hilarious 5 minute monologue intro to "Pumps and a Bump". The crowd was largely white and family oriented and they turned on Hammer within 20 minutes, some even chanting "Hammer sucks", and many leaving.

The choreography...maybe my memory has been nicer to the past than it should, but, uh....I don't remember it being that bad. His backup dancers moreso than him.

He performed for a little over an hour, and then gathered about 100 people to dance to U Can't Touch This on stage with him....in silence, for about ten minutes.

Wow. Glad I got in free with my annual pass.

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Sunday, 5 April 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link

2 ears + 1 ❤ (Pillbox), Sunday, 5 April 2009 22:15 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^^^ classic

III IV V (Bo Jackson Overdrive), Sunday, 5 April 2009 22:29 (fifteen years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wAZz3c6WC7M

omfg. what is up with those pants? and his horrible attempt at beat boxing?

i heard/read way back when that Vanilla Ice was loaded ... that he invested his royalties wisely and shit. if it's true, it doesn't make his music better or his musical persona any less pathetic -- but unlike Hammer, he's at least avoided visiting the bankruptcy court (AFAIK).

KARLOR CAN FUCK ANYTHING! AND HE WILL AND HAS!!! (Eisbaer), Saturday, 9 July 2011 21:04 (twelve years ago) link

i always thought 'ice ice baby' was a terrible single. too long, plodding, repetitive to no good effect, bad flow.

'u can't touch this' on the other hand is great: unforgettable hook, funny, bouncy, everything a classic single should be.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Saturday, 9 July 2011 23:13 (twelve years ago) link

Bo Jackson, maybe some trickster had gone and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NhmiR18iGVg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Sunday, 10 July 2011 07:25 (twelve years ago) link

Woops, pressed send too early. Anyway you get the idea

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Sunday, 10 July 2011 07:26 (twelve years ago) link

"Ice Ice Baby" is fantastic. You play that song when DJing and it's like you're the second coming of ... i dunno... the second coming of someone really awesome.

this is still true 7 years later. very very popular song at nightclubs, weddings, parties, i get requests for this every time i play out. i understand the songs weaknesses, and also what a complete goof mr. winkle is, but this song is a classic. and frankly i don't think it would still be as popular if v ice hadn't been so stupid looking and unintentionally funny either, that's built into it's ongoing appeal.

same goes for "can't touch this" but tbh i don't think it's quite as good a song, and it's still popular but not on the level of ice ice baby. however hammer does still get consistent props from any and all bay area rappers to this day

messiahwannabe, Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

Ice Ice Baby is one of my Dad's favourite songs, and he's 64.

Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:17 (twelve years ago) link

Still like "Ice Ice Baby." Remember the first time I heard it. I was driving around Detroit with Mr. Fine Wine and some DJ just kept playing it over and over and wouldn't play anything else.

Twenty Flight Rickroll (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:19 (twelve years ago) link

ha ha - oh my that seriously made me laugh!

xpost to dog latin

HAMMER takes it. U Can't Touch This >>>>>>>>>> Ice Ice Baby

I'm A Genius, Too! (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:44 (twelve years ago) link

Flavor Flav & MC Hammer To Join Charlie Sheen At Insane Clown Posse Festival

O_O

HOOBASTANK is my co-pilot (DJP), Tuesday, 12 July 2011 16:48 (twelve years ago) link

six years pass...

Hammer - cos it's Hammer yo Hammer MC Hammer Go Hammer

and the rest can go and play

fuck you, your hat is horrible (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 October 2017 01:11 (six years ago) link

eight months pass...

When Hammer grunts 'YEEEAAH, BOYYYYEEEEE' in 'Let's Get it Started' it sounds like he's pinching one off.

If I'm honest in reappraising his skills, he's really not that much better an MC than Blazin' Hazen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXb6bjCCtuY

Gregory Horsemelt (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:31 (five years ago) link

that's unfair

you missed the part where he smoothed out his rapping

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haxYckO6-ok

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 13:32 (five years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFCv86Olk8E

the video for "2 Legit 2 Quit" is beyond insane and is LEGIT amazing. yes it features James Brown throwing Hadoukens of energy at Hammer.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 15:34 (five years ago) link

It took me forever to notice it for some reason but, once I did, Hammer's tendency to randomly sprinkle his rhymes with rolling 'r' sounds (often when there was no 'r' to roll) started driving me batshit. It's all over this track:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwshr5uAlOA

Gregory Horsemelt (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 15:54 (five years ago) link

yea the 2 Legit video is pretty awesome - love how it's a not-so-subtle attempt to one-up Michael Jackson

frogbs, Wednesday, 18 July 2018 16:53 (five years ago) link

OL i definitely picked up on the rolling r's

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 17:32 (five years ago) link

btw the Rifftrax crew has tackled "Cool As Ice" and it is hilarious. it really is one of the great bad movies.

Hazy Maze Cave (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 18 July 2018 17:37 (five years ago) link


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