I also didn't realize how young [Todd Burns] the chief is !
― DJ Martian (djmartian), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 09:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 09:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 09:48 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 10:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 10:18 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 10:20 (twenty-two years ago)
I also have writer's block. I'm having trouble getting a moment to knock my Richard X thoughts into any sort of coherant form, but with any luck it should be more or less sorted by this afternoon.
The very thought of Dave Q writing for Stylus fills me with joy.
― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 10:25 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 10:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 10:27 (twenty-two years ago)
Cozen, I would love that (plus anythign else you want to do).
Tom, it's not back-handed at all (I don't know what you look like!).
Dave Q's had one article published with us, ahs another in the works (ie; waiting for me to edit and format it), and a review coming soon.
Dom, write me more stuff, you're brilliant.
Swygart, same for you.
Matt DC, I await your Richard X review with baited breath and sweaty palms.
DR C, I'm ready any time you are.
Credit for the new look is mainly due to Kenan, Todd, and the man from Moveable Type whom we love with all our hearts (and who's been sat up till all hours with Todd reloading stuff into new matrices and tables and stuff for the last week).
It's looking fucking splendid, and will be even better when I email Todd a picture of me looking windswept on Dartmoor.
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:06 (twenty-two years ago)
Sorry Nick, something WILL come your way soon. I have had v.little time.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 11:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)
Burns/Nick: Tell Gavin to write as much as possible!
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:36 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 12:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― ben welsh (benwelsh), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― todd burns (toddburns), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 17:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:20 (twenty-two years ago)
― gabbo giftington (dubplatestyle), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)
it rhymed. cut me a break.
― ben welsh (benwelsh), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 18:53 (twenty-two years ago)
I am using IE 5 and the album reviews on the left do not have enough space between artist, title, etc. I will IM Todd about when I get back from work.
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)
Nice job, Todd.
― Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― Cozen (Cozen), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 22:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― David A. (Davant), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― samuel, Friday, 5 September 2003 02:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― keith (keithmcl), Friday, 5 September 2003 02:14 (twenty-two years ago)
matthew weiner posts here as naiveteenidol.
― scott pl. (scott pl.), Friday, 5 September 2003 02:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― samuel, Friday, 5 September 2003 02:57 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Friday, 5 September 2003 10:00 (twenty-two years ago)
It was partly me, yes, though I'm not going to take too much credit since I didn't do all that I said I would. I picked the colors, designed the logo and header and picked the fonts, laid out the individual pages, and wrote some of the code. I had nothing to do with the front page, but whoever did did an excellent job, apart from some stylesheet problems that are easily fixed (i.e. -- the text spacing and padding is all screwy).
It does look much better. Yay Todd!
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 7 September 2003 02:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 7 September 2003 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)
I didn't realize Pitchfork had the patent on HTML.
― Andrew Frye (paul cox), Sunday, 7 September 2003 02:35 (twenty-two years ago)
the new design is amazing and the writing is just getting better and better-- every feature is slam dunk it seems. it makes me wish i hadn't lost the small shred of writing spark i used to have. i wish i could contribute more than i have been this summer.
todd (along with nick and keenan, natch) is the hardest working man on the internet, and it's finally paying off big time. bravo.
― colin mcelligatt, Sunday, 7 September 2003 03:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Kenan Hebert (kenan), Sunday, 7 September 2003 04:48 (twenty-two years ago)
Well, all sorts of websites and publications cover all sorts of music and get lots of hits/readers, it just happens that the ones that are more critic-driven and wordcount-heavy are indie or indie-leaning generalist types. And I have a strong hunch that whatever desire exists out there to read critical analysis of non-indie music, no matter how small, is probably pretty underserved.
― shart shart shart shart shart hey guys is this still funny? shart sh (some dude), Sunday, 17 January 2010 08:12 (sixteen years ago)
As I've said before I suspect no music is more regularly and casually critically maligned than "women's music" of the non-indie/non-R&B variety.
yeah, i think you said this w/r/t female singer-songwriters before, which rings v true - the reason i never really read much music crit when growing up is because it was mostly very snarky/dismissive of the artists i listened to as a teenager (tori amos, fiona apple, ani difranco et al). oddly enough apple became a lot more accepted (circa extraordinary machine) once she started hanging out w/indie-auteur faves like paul thomas anderson, developed that whole me-vs-the-record-label narrative which wasn't even true etc etc.
tori amos's weirdo electronic albums at the end of the 90s are still two of the most critically underappreciated ones i own - been revisiting them a lot this week and the scale, ambition and execution are still extraordinary, yet pretty much no one cares about them any more.
― لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Sunday, 17 January 2010 11:30 (sixteen years ago)
As I've said before I suspect no music is more regularly and casually critically maligned than "women's music" of the non-indie/non-R&B
I don't read enough crit these days to say for sure, but my impression is that this isn't true of women's country music...assuming that by "women's music" you mean music made by women. If you're talking about music made for women then I don't know what this means so I can't say.
― Euler, Sunday, 17 January 2010 11:37 (sixteen years ago)
Hey, I really miss this website - it was kind of like "Pitchfork, but good"
Is there any hint that they might come back up?Or is there another website out there like it?
― frogbs, Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:27 (fourteen years ago)
Nope. The archives remain, and lots of us have found homes elsewhere. Thanks for the kind words.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 17 August 2011 22:42 (fourteen years ago)
so are there other sites like it?I dunno, I liked the features like "Playing God", "On Second Look", etc. - kinda showed you guys thinking about music the same way obsessives like myself do.
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:47 (fourteen years ago)
http://www.thesinglesjukebox.com/
― mark (er) s (k3vin k.), Thursday, 18 August 2011 13:48 (fourteen years ago)
Playing God was fucking awesome, and I definitely have a number of playlists that adopted some of those tracklists.
― Somewhere between Fergie and Jesus (Alex in Montreal), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:14 (fourteen years ago)
Thequietus is the best thing since Stylus.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:22 (fourteen years ago)
^^^mad trolling
― gay socialists smoking mushrooms with their illegal gardeners (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:35 (fourteen years ago)
TQ has good interviews but their taste is so boring that I really can't read anything else.
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:41 (fourteen years ago)
I only contributed to Stylus three times, but Todd Burns was one of the best editors I ever dealt with--one of the few who didn't, in the parlance of Sweet Smell of Success, expect you to jump through burning hoops like a trained poodle.
― clemenza, Thursday, 18 August 2011 14:46 (fourteen years ago)
wait - is like every ILMer a former writer for this website?
― frogbs, Thursday, 18 August 2011 15:04 (fourteen years ago)
Nearly.
― lol sickmouthy (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 18 August 2011 15:05 (fourteen years ago)
I don't contribute to this site very much, but I only ended up here because Stylus folded. I loved that site, and posted to it a lot. Some of the most intelligent, and impassioned, engagements with reviews/writing I have found. Of course, a whole lot of horseshit, grandstanding, and just plain mean-spiritedness/petty trolling as well, but OVERALL a very admirable effort to let the masses in on the experience. This site is probably the closest to it, from a feel perspective (and all the alumni of course).
― grandavis, Thursday, 18 August 2011 15:49 (fourteen years ago)
frogbs: there was a lot of stylus/freakytrigger/ilx crossover; a lot of the same people now right for singles jukebox
― I'm a nerd and nerdy things happened (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 August 2011 16:06 (fourteen years ago)
No trolling here! I dig Thequietus interviews, op eds and occasional reviews. Frankly I should use it more to check out what they're touting as they clearly come from the same post-punk roots as I do.
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 18 August 2011 16:44 (fourteen years ago)
i wasn't a "writer" per se... but, when Stylus closed, i was the first regular commenter they thanked in one of their goodbye pieces ^____^
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Saturday, 20 August 2011 17:24 (fourteen years ago)
The Quietus is awesome btw
Uggh, I got mentioned in that Stylus goodbye as well. Both OK with that and totally embarrassed at the same time. Some real unfortunate posts by me in some of those pieces, but those were rougher times. Still sorry about some of them though.
― grandavis, Saturday, 20 August 2011 17:47 (fourteen years ago)
likewise for me, i'm sure. but then it's not like i don't make unfortunate posts on ilx nowadays, so who cares
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)
man, I didn't you two were commenters.
― a 'catch-all', almost humorous, 'Jeez' quality (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:00 (fourteen years ago)
"zarklephaser" - i've said this before!
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:02 (fourteen years ago)
same as my Last.fm username the last 6 years or however long
http://www.last.fm/user/zarklephaser
Well, it pains me to admit it, but we’ve had plenty of favorite commenters on the site. Zarklephaser, Grand Banks, Florenz6, meatbreak, raskolnikov, et al.: we salute you!
WTF I WAS CALLED OUT AS A FAVORITE STYLUS COMMENTER??!?!!!
(totally unexpected, thanks to whomever suggested that!)
― stephen, Monday, October 29, 2007 10:49 AM (3 years ago)
Hahaha, that was all Todd's doing, singling you and the others out. I don't think anything has had as much sustained, impassioned, profane and repeated discussion in our virtual office over the years as the comments boxes. God bless our readers. And hello, Zarklephaser.
― Scik Mouthy, Monday, October 29, 2007 10:51 AM (3 years ago)
― i genuinely thought when i first joined that he was the admin (ilxor), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:04 (fourteen years ago)
Ah, Alfred, one of my regretable moments was on a piece of yours. Sorry about that, I actually liked almost everything you wrote, but for some reason your Boredoms piece, and the subsequent comments, caught me on the wrong day.
― grandavis, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:27 (fourteen years ago)
This news is heartbreaking. :(
― three handclaps, Friday, October 26, 2007 9:50 PM
― markers, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:32 (fourteen years ago)
nuts that it's almost been four years since it closed . . .
― markers, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:37 (fourteen years ago)
i kind of wish Stylus had polls.
― Wrinklepaws
― buzza, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
hahaha
― markers, Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:47 (fourteen years ago)
Uggh, I got mentioned in that Stylus goodbye as well. Both OK with that and totally embarrassed at the same time.
Hey at least you got mentioned!
― Aziz Ansari & III (jaymc), Saturday, 20 August 2011 18:55 (fourteen years ago)
writing for this magazine was the second half of my adolescence and the reason i've gotten any work anywhere so yeah <3. the ideal writers' mag: polyvocal, always up for stuff, and unsustainable.
― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 20 August 2011 19:23 (fourteen years ago)
Yeah, I am happy I got mentioned, I am imagining that I got noticed mostly for being a good poster, but sure wish I could take back some of my comments. Great site though, thoroughly miss it.
― grandavis, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:01 (fourteen years ago)
ha, i just found a stylus 'stycast' podcast on an old drive - an interview that todd did with me for stylus in 2005!
― geeta, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:07 (fourteen years ago)
The Stycasts were great. There was a very amusing one about 60s/70s stars trying to transition to the 80s.
― Gukbe, Saturday, 20 August 2011 22:15 (fourteen years ago)
lmao @ inconceivably atrocious, bully is a stone cold classic imo
Stylus Magazine said the song was "undoubtley" Fatboy Slim's "finest moment to date", noting "the ten-minute house anthem “Song for Shelter”, whose redemptive power was so awesome that it almost saved Larry Clark’s inconceivably atrocious film Bully simply by gracing the last scene."[1]
― johnny crunch, Wednesday, 8 June 2016 02:16 (ten years ago)
what's up with the Stylus website lately? their album reviews don't seem to be accessible anymore (and even the Archives link yields a 404 error) although their features and movie reviews are still online...
― hippie lady from california who loves that god (unregistered), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:33 (nine years ago)
awww so glad you care
The site's slowly crumbling. I've been transferring reviews to my blog.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 16:42 (nine years ago)
I've done the same thing with my reviews.
― mike t-diva, Wednesday, 3 August 2016 23:43 (nine years ago)
i still occasionally start typing in stylusmagazine into the search bar, from muscle memory, whenever i'm wandering the internet looking for something new
― I look forward to hearing from you shortly, (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 August 2016 23:57 (nine years ago)
cuz we still rule
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 4 August 2016 00:26 (nine years ago)