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LOOTPACK AS WELL. CLASSIC.

― Poops Mcgee, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

at least 90% classic! i've only recently discovered the joys of madlib, but they are great joys. he shares a skill with rza in being able to make a beat come alive, ie. he keeps it moving with small and unexpected variations. his style is not cutting edge but the tracks he samples are chosen so well that it is more about perfecting this conventional sound than striving for new sounds. and i like his lo-fi basement sound a lot - when i first started getting into hip-hop via the beastie boys and portishead the kind of sound that i wanted from hip-hop and had in my head, was very similar to what madlib has done. (i'm thinking of lootpack and quasimoto here.. i haven't heard any 'yesterday's new quintet' or much else)

the only problem with madlib is his dopey monotone... but even that can be quite endearing sometimes, and with such great production (and the whole quasimoto thing was a really imaginative way around that) it is very easy to endure.

― minna, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

and since my last question concerning madlib went ignored, maybe i can get it answered here: is the declaime album any good?

― minna, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Haven't heard Declaime, but am somewhat disappointed by Yesterday's New Quintet. I love Madlib, but he's going a bit too far up the jazzy end of things on this one...

― Ben Williams, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

QUASIMOTO, CLASSIC AS WELL.

― Poops Mcgee, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

HERES SOME SAMPLES HERES

― Poops Mcgee, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

heres some samples heres

― Poops Mcgee, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

He is a bit of a vinyl/jazz-junkie but I'd say classic. Quasimoto's "Come on Feet" was totally bizarre and wonderful (and that music video!). I love how he uses all of these hazy old vocal snippets weaving in and out without sounding self-conscious or kitschy about it.

― Honda, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

LOVE quasimoto

the rest is patchy

― stevie, Friday, 22 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

undoubtedly mr. jackson jr.'s releases under the 'quas' moniker have been stellar while self-produced. his dug loops are brilliant, samples hillarious and verses pitting quas vs. madlib well complement each other.

i like 'yesterday's new quintet' for rehashing that old groove sound more so than i do the breakestra for doing the same thing. nothing really innovative just plenty of fresh nostalgia.

i've never gotten into the madlib remixes, or any colabs with lootpack.. i can rarely bear the 'oh so CraZy' peanut butter wolf mixes im not sure if he's throwin' them as he should be or if he's just gettin stoned by his own label.

― tree, Saturday, 23 March 2002 01:00 (twenty-four years ago)

five years pass...

from another thread -

i loved the Quasimoto album but was really put off by all the subparish Yesterday's New Quintet stuff.
-- JaXoN (JasonD), Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:23 AM (3 years ago)

should that be sub-parrish??

is yesterday's new quintet electronica??

― moonship journey to baja, Sunday, 13 May 2007 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

He's usually better in theory than practice, but I have a big soft spot for him.

― The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

I was really really disappointed by his Blue Note remix stuff.

Also Madvillany never clicked for me, though I like Doom elsewhere.

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:24 (nineteen years ago)

Madvillainy -better than Pet Sounds?

I think so.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:29 (nineteen years ago)

Chinese water torture >>>>>>> The Beach Boys, so yeah.

― The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:38 (nineteen years ago)

Madvilliany is great, though. I get the impression Madlib needs someone else to give his ideas some focus or he just puts out whatever shit, and Doom does a good job of that there.

― The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 22:40 (nineteen years ago)

Great is a bit of an understatement. That's a bit harsh on the Beach Boys though.

― I know, right?, Sunday, 13 May 2007 23:05 (nineteen years ago)

No, that's a bit harsh on Chinese water torture.

― The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 23:08 (nineteen years ago)

Okay whatever, but Meat Grinder makes me shiver every time I hear it. The way Doom's voice is produced is amazing and the whole thing has this warmth and up-close feel. Burial is the only album recently that I can compare it to, but of course its also completely different to and a million times better than Burial...

― I know, right?, Sunday, 13 May 2007 23:13 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Doom's voice sounds really good on that record. I haven't actually listened to Madvilliany any time recently, so I should pull it out and report back to this thread.

What is this Burial thing exactly? I keep hearing about it.

― The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 23:31 (nineteen years ago)

"Great Day" = awesome.

― The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 23:32 (nineteen years ago)

I like the way he starts off with "Love Me Down", especially since most of the record seems hermetically sealed off in its own world.

― The Reverend, Sunday, 13 May 2007 23:34 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, its like this y'know super-trendy wire-sponsored grime thing, which turned out to be amazing. It sounds like you've left the club incredibly drunk by yourself and after waiting in the cold for an hour finally get in the back of this warm cab, and the driver is listening to Soul II Soul and Lee Perry but you're so drunk it all seems slowed down and you're half trying to stay awake, half trying not to puke...

I know what you mean about hermetically sealed of in its own world btw, its a kind of anachronistic blend of 50's newsreel pastiche and late night BBC jazz show bits reshaped. But into something entirely new and weird but familiar. Sorry if I sound ridiculous and semi-literate, I just get a bit over-excited about this album...

― I know, right?, Sunday, 13 May 2007 23:43 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the "Love Me Down" bit is this weird lesser anachronism like if someone wandered onto the set of a Shakespearean play in a polyester leisure suit. (Sorry. I just really like that image.) You've accepted the greater anachronism as normal for the work, but then something comes in from the future which is really the past, and throws everything for a loop.

Burial sounds interesting, and mentioning Soul II Soul really gets my attention. I love them something fierce.

― The Reverend, Monday, 14 May 2007 00:12 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, but it's kindof to Soul II Soul what Ariel Pink is to Fleetwood Mac. It sounds more like a memory of Soul II Soul. Like Back2Life slowed down and half-picked up on a ghost transmission. Ooh, ghost transmission, that's what it sounds like...

― I know, right?, Monday, 14 May 2007 00:33 (nineteen years ago)

Sounds even better. Must investigate.

― The Reverend, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:21 (nineteen years ago)

i regret reviving this now

― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

Haha what was you thinking?

― Alex in SF, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

i never heard this guy

is it true he did a rmx of ronnie foster's mystic brew? any good?

― 696, Monday, 14 May 2007 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

quasimoto gets annoying cos of the helium voice, madvillainy is prob his best album production. the rest is very hit and miss. declaime was good, but declaime himself gets a bit much for a whole album. i kinda liked the dudley perkins album but thts not for everyone. too many of his beats seem underdeveloped. too thin and lacking oomph. they dont sound like they have been finished. too stoner ish too.

no one should ever have to listen to his 'jazzy' side projects. no one should have to release them either, really.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:12 (nineteen years ago)

y dun u liek jazz

is it cos yr 2 grimy 4 it?

― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

quasimoto gets annoying cos of the helium voice, madvillainy is prob his best album production.

But what about the production on the Quasimoto albums? I think it's as good Madvillainy.

― Drooone, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

yeah production is good on quas albums, last one in particular, but i cant listen to the whole thing anymore cos of the voice and moreover, the terrible lyrics. also, just say no to songs about weed kids.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:33 (nineteen years ago)

vahid, do you like his "jazzy" side projects?

― jaxon, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

i secretly really like some of the songs on the blue note album

― deej, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:41 (nineteen years ago)

i like YNQ a lot (1st album > "sound directions" >>> weak-ass stevie wonder covers) and i like the monk hughes album a lot a lot a lot.

i have nothing against jazz or indolence in general, and honestly i think quasimoto's jazzy indolence matches the vibe of hanging out in taco shops on sunny hazy afternoons better than e-40 or whatever.

― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

i like quasimoto, too. it's funny!

― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:47 (nineteen years ago)

yes im too grimy for YNQ. they would be so much better if they let some kiddies from east london rhyme on them.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 14 May 2007 22:58 (nineteen years ago)

I think the problem with the YNQ (i only copped 'angels with edges' back when it dropped - is that the first one?) and the blue note stuff was that i was generally just like 'why don't i just listen to jazz.'

― deej, Monday, 14 May 2007 23:00 (nineteen years ago)

jazz = no beat

― moonship journey to baja, Monday, 14 May 2007 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

i disagree but even if i interpret 'beat' the way you do, why would madlib be the ideal person to make jazz with a beat???

― deej, Monday, 14 May 2007 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

...interpret 'beat' the way i ASSUME you do....

― deej, Monday, 14 May 2007 23:11 (nineteen years ago)

I just don't like the YNQ stuff because his "solos" sound like he has really fat fingers and skills comparable to a cat walking on the keyboard.

― jaxon, Monday, 14 May 2007 23:29 (nineteen years ago)

The Blue Note stuff just bored me.

And I like jazz! And Madlib!

― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 14 May 2007 23:33 (nineteen years ago)

the problem i had with his jazz stuff was that it was all so lightweight and lacking in dynamics. he cant play keys well at all so it just ended up being like background easy listening hip-hop jazz muzak.

― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 10:32 (nineteen years ago)

the rest is patchy

-- stevie, Friday, March 22, 2002 1:00 AM (5 years ago)

i take that back. the beat conductor album from last year was one of my favourite, most-played albums. i just love his feeling for *sound.

― stevie, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

jaxon OTM

― titchyschneiderMk2, Tuesday, 15 May 2007 12:36 (nineteen years ago)

haha. Yesterdays New Quintet broke up.
http://www.stonesthrow.com/ynq/

― jaxon, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

When do we get the Chris Gaines collabo?

― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 20:36 (nineteen years ago)

I liked Beat Konducta 1 & 2 waaaaay more than I did Donuts

― Matos W.K., Wednesday, 23 May 2007 02:13 (nineteen years ago)

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the doom/jadakiss song is real good. it's encouraging bc there are a bunch of really bad recent doom tracks.

― john-claude van donne (schlump), Tuesday, 21 February 2012 23:51 (fourteen years ago)

IIRC that verse is from 2005

― the late great, Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:08 (fourteen years ago)

ah hm

― john-claude van donne (schlump), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:13 (fourteen years ago)

I love madlib but I saw him do a set for the release of 12/13 or w/e and it was really fuckin boring

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

wheras I saw him do some random set last year that was one of the most amazing things I went to

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 22 February 2012 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

two years pass...

Any consensus on the Freddie Gibbs collab (Piñata)?

― millmeister, Thursday, 3 April 2014 09:03 (twelve years ago)

FREDDIE GIBBS - TEN PACKS OF BACKWOODS VS. DOPE IN MY STYROFOAM

― dylannn, Thursday, 3 April 2014 09:36 (twelve years ago)

Cheers

― millmeister, Thursday, 3 April 2014 09:57 (twelve years ago)

three months pass...

Rock Konducta Vol 1 rules so far! chopping up psych, kraut, dollar bin skot type records, everything

― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 July 2014 14:29 (eleven years ago)

not a huge fan of this one, I wish he would extend himself a bit

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 July 2014 14:53 (eleven years ago)

^^ I hear that ... i loooooove madlib but at the end of the day how many beat tapes do I need?

― the late great, Friday, 18 July 2014 15:28 (eleven years ago)

i dunno i'm digging, source material is a bit different

also i haven't really listened to any of this type of stuff for quite awhile so maybe i'm more in the mood

― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 July 2014 15:34 (eleven years ago)

of course i'm still going to pick it up!

― the late great, Friday, 18 July 2014 15:41 (eleven years ago)

not a huge fan of this one, I wish he would extend himself a bit

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 July 2014 14:53 (1 hour ago) Permalink

actually this is prob unfair because madlib seems like he just locks himself up in different rooms and constantly produces diverse work that other people are left to release

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 July 2014 16:07 (eleven years ago)

I have a lot of time for well eq'd loops but especially after all the medicine shows, I'd prefer a more surprising sort of release (matt have you listened to any of the medicine shows?)

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 July 2014 16:11 (eleven years ago)

nah honestly i listened to the freddie gibbs record which was ok but didn't do a ton for me, but i haven't been checking for this type of stuff for ages tbh

― sinister porpoise (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 18 July 2014 16:24 (eleven years ago)

the production on the gibbs record was pretty restrained and boring imo, check out the 12 or 13 medicine show records madlib finished releasing a couple years ago, most are incredibly rewarding

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 July 2014 16:36 (eleven years ago)

I could go on and on about them, and probably have on some other thread, but I'm on a #12 kick right now

http://youtu.be/porRFeXlOho

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 July 2014 16:38 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=porRFeXlOho

― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Friday, 18 July 2014 16:38 (eleven years ago)

the African one is incredible

― the late great, Friday, 18 July 2014 20:51 (eleven years ago)

eight months pass...

hi dere i am corny

http://www.stonesthrow.com/uploads/images/product/detail/exodus-into-unheard-rhythms.jpg

but this goes down great on a sunny sunday

― the late great, Sunday, 5 April 2015 21:25 (eleven years ago)

five years pass...

He's got a new solo LP out, Sound Ancestors, and it's really great so far.

― pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 17:02 (five years ago)

Yeah, it’s good. Arranged, edited and mastered by Kieren Hebden/Four Tet too.

― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Monday, 1 February 2021 17:12 (five years ago)

I didn't know that but it makes perfect sense.

― pomenitul, Monday, 1 February 2021 17:15 (five years ago)

What is it? Collage snippets of loops?

― candyman, Monday, 1 February 2021 18:11 (five years ago)

oh cross posted to four tet. it's really great.

― Joses Chrust (map), Monday, 1 February 2021 18:43 (five years ago)

https://madlib.bandcamp.com/album/sound-ancestors

― Joses Chrust (map), Monday, 1 February 2021 18:44 (five years ago)

listened to it today while working, didnt get to dial in on it too close but it had some great tracks for sure. def sounds like what i would hope a madlib/four tet collab would sound like

― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Monday, 1 February 2021 18:53 (five years ago)

love this record

― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Thursday, 4 February 2021 23:14 (five years ago)

yeah.
i only have madlibs blue note and trojan mixtapes that are credited to him and are great albeit via an excess of sharp cuts.
whereas this is exactly what i needed re samples/beats.
i love it.

― mark e, Thursday, 4 February 2021 23:20 (five years ago)

def sounds like what i would hope a madlib/four tet collab would sound like

Or at least like the Madlib tracks that Four Tet would most like :)

― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 4 February 2021 23:50 (five years ago)

I had not much of an idea of what to expect from this album, but one thing I'm pretty sure it wasn't, was a sample of Renaldo & the Loaf! ("Critical/Dance" off The Elbow Is Taboo, in "Loose Goose" around 1:44).

The fun thing is that this bit made me question the sounds earlier in the track, which had formerly sounded plausibly Jamaican to match the vocals -- I start wondering whether he has reorganized some slightly silly kazoo/comb bits from "Hambu Hodo" (2:36 on) from the same album?

― anatol_merklich, Friday, 5 February 2021 20:42 (five years ago)

The kazoo bits in Loose Goose are also from Critical/Dance, just later in the track.

― MarkoP, Friday, 5 February 2021 22:52 (five years ago)

love the use of young marble giants on dirtknock

― This Is Not An ILX Username (LaMonte), Saturday, 6 February 2021 02:45 (five years ago)

The kazoo bits in Loose Goose are also from Critical/Dance, just later in the track.

On the R&tL thread, Milton said that the entire track is built on "A Critical Dance", but the version on Arabic Yodelling, not Elbow.

― anatol_merklich, Saturday, 6 February 2021 11:47 (five years ago)

Anyone knows what’s the sample on “latino negro”

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 6 February 2021 15:04 (five years ago)

I love that one, sounds to me like the updated version of “everything is alright” by Four Tet in 2001: spanish guitar + jazz drums looped. But whereas in Four Tet’s debut you can tell it’s looped, in the madlb one it sound’s played live. I’m not even sure it’s a sample.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Saturday, 6 February 2021 15:10 (five years ago)

So good

― flopson, Sunday, 7 February 2021 01:21 (five years ago)

i wonder how much material Four Tet had to work with

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 17 February 2021 23:30 (five years ago)

hate this album lol

― Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 23:35 (five years ago)

it seems so boring and toothless to me, but then again I've always found four tet stuff to be like that. This doesn't really sound like madlib at all to me

― Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 23:36 (five years ago)

for all the crazy finished projects that madlib's sitting on I wonder why they decided to put this out, but I mean I'm prob in the minority here thinking this

― Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, 17 February 2021 23:36 (five years ago)

probably.
i love it.
i have no idea re the sample sources, and genuinely don't care.
if four tet can extract albums like this out of madlibs chaotic excess then so be it.
i love the flow of the album.
it's as simple as that.

― mark e, Thursday, 18 February 2021 00:05 (five years ago)

Because Four Tet pushed for it, I think that's pretty obvious

― change display name (Jordan), Thursday, 18 February 2021 00:09 (five years ago)

it seems so boring and toothless to me, but then again I've always found four tet stuff to be like that. This doesn't really sound like madlib at all to me

― Bongo Jongus, Wednesday, February 17,

lol 100% of the music on the album is made by madlib and 0% by kieran. all he did was choose the songs from a file dump and sequence them

― flopson, Thursday, 18 February 2021 07:43 (five years ago)

i thought he did some arranging

i dont want to weigh in til i listen to this whole project. i heard one song that did make me think bongo jongus might be right. felt like a loop madlib would pick, put into a familiar formal framework (arguably overfamiliar)

i will listen before saying too much more. but i wanted to legitimize the criticism cuz i think madlib's catalog is overwhelmingly huge and kind of discourages close critical reading by nature so ofc the four tet record is the biggest revive this thread had in years

― ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Thursday, 18 February 2021 07:49 (five years ago)

he’s way too prolific, the ynq stuff is just uninspired noodling, but this is the best madlib release in a while

xp- from nyt

For “Sound Ancestors,” Hebden decided that although he could alter and manipulate the material Madlib sent him, he wouldn’t create any new sounds.

― flopson, Thursday, 18 February 2021 08:04 (five years ago)

sounds nothing like the four tet madvillainy remixes

― flopson, Thursday, 18 February 2021 08:05 (five years ago)

two years pass...

feel duty-bound to bump this tbh

― imago, Thursday, 29 June 2023 10:42 (two years ago)

one year passes...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jan/14/california-la-fires-madlib-home

Madlib lost home and much of 30 year collection in the LA fires

― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 15 January 2025 21:00 (one year ago)

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