― Boxcar (Crapstone), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)
HS
― hector savage, Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 11 November 2004 12:47 (twenty-one years ago)
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:16 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:20 (twenty-one years ago)
Are people now offering Popart as a suggestion *instead* of the discography/singles collection? I've often wondered why they did so much overlap between the two - to me it would've made more sense to make a single-disc second volume of the discography/singles collection, as the first stands pretty mightily on its own.(they put everything on from the first, save Was It Worth It)
it all just seems a bit unnecessary to me
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:31 (twenty-one years ago)
Here's a TS for you -- buying them in that format vs. the double-disc reissues from Please to Very which include all the Alternative cuts.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)
i like how the first disc left the album intact and the second filled in with all kinds of neat mixes, demos and b-sides
so, naturally i'll say the double-disc versions
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)
But if you're on a budget then I guess just go for the double-disc reissues.
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)
both popart and discography are DEAD CHEAP, so there's little in it. pop art gives you a taste of the later stuff - which might be of use to someone who'd heard v little. i do prefer discography cos i'm not taken with the later stuff all that much :-(
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 13:46 (twenty-one years ago)
― Chris Hill (Chris Hill), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― ambrose (ambrose), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 14:52 (twenty-one years ago)
Specifically: Se A Vida E (pure concentrated joy in a can), A Red Letter Day (it GETS me, man), I Don't Know What You Want..., You Only Tell Me You Love Me When You're Drunk (dissing, punk, hee!), Home And Dry (makes me cry), I Get Along (it's about Blair-n-Mandy u kno).
And also because Discography's strictly chronological timeline gets a bit wearing; the "pop"/"art" split may border on the arbitrary at times, but the track sequencing is still intelligently done.
Most glaring omission from Alternative: the swing version of "Can You Forgive Her", re-recorded with a full swing band arrangement, and at least 98% as good as the original.
― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)
(oh and check the INGA 1990 cover of DO I HAVE TO? if u haven't).
― piscesboy, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:10 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)
It's odd because I really adore most of their stuff (I loved _Release_, for example, and think "Home And Dry" is genius) but there are certain things that really, really aggravate me, like "Domino Dancing", "Always On My Mind", "Can You Forgive Her?", and "Go West", but those things are greatly overshadowed by the fact that most of their tracks are as great as "Se A Vida E (Deep Dish Mix)" or "The Boy Who Couldn't Keep His Clothes On" or every version of "I Want A Dog" that doesn't appear on _Introspective_.
(xpost RAISE YOUR STANDARDS, PSB FANS)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:15 (twenty-one years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:18 (twenty-one years ago)
(xpost HONOR THE FEY! Er.)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)
other favourites-"Love Comes Quickly""So Hard""West End Girls" (obviously)"Kings Cross"
I could go on, and on. best band ever.
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)
WHAAAATTT??? This is madness. Holy shit, that track is so utterly great.
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)
I also know that part of my issue with _Introspective_ is the super-heavy hand of Shep Pettibone.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:25 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)
I have to hurt you now.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:37 (twenty-one years ago)
i smell heavy handed ILX racism at work
― rentboy (rentboy), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:38 (twenty-one years ago)
Six if you count me. Play With Me is a superb metapop album.
― Acid Alliteration, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello "Acid Alliteration" Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Is anyone else happy like I am that they've released the DVD of their Behaviour tour? Especially since I missed it. When they played LA. In 1991. When I was out of town that week. And couldn't catch them. WHEN THEY PLAYED WHAT WAS APPARENTLY ONE OF THEIR BEST SHOWS ON THE TOUR ACCORDING TO PET SHOP BOYS VERSUS AMERICA. But I digress.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:41 (twenty-one years ago)
― edward o (edwardo), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)
― Marcello Carlin, Thursday, 11 November 2004 15:44 (twenty-one years ago)
A further update on that terrible cover -- Nate Patrin remembered the ad for the miniseries using it. You will note, how you say, a creative edit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4R_C2L4Wmk
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:22 (five years ago)
Re: That Downy ad. I submit for consideration LG selling washing machines by reinterpreting "Got Your Money":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEwxtg35BUo
― "what are you DOING to fleetwood mac??" (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:33 (five years ago)
why are there so many street signs in that montage
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:47 (five years ago)
Billionaire Boys Club was nominated for four Emmys: Outstanding Miniseries, Outstanding Directing in a Miniseries or Special, Outstanding Writing in a Miniseries or Special, and Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Miniseries or Special for Ron Silver
lol
― Dana Jel Pey (DJP), Monday, 22 March 2021 18:50 (five years ago)
Really speaks to the sheer paucity of quality around then. "It MUST be important, it's about wannabe rich assholes in LA like us!"
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 18:55 (five years ago)
Whenever I think of the Pet Shop Boys in pop culture I always think of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW8TIAHyAE0
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:37 (five years ago)
YES! on the Tag Team Geico ad being the #1 ad of the moment. I crack myself up inserting "Sprinkles!" mentally into conversations. The expression on the son's?/daughter's? faces are great, too.
― the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Monday, 22 March 2021 19:42 (five years ago)
One thing I like about the Tag Team commercial is that I (and I assume a lot of people) had idea what the guys looked like, and even if I did, it's kind of taken on faith that these are the same guys. And yeah, "Sprinkles!"
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 22 March 2021 19:52 (five years ago)
the tag team commercial also underscores the fact that "whoomp there it is" is a truly excellent song that we've taken for granted
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 20:04 (five years ago)
I mentioned this piece briefly but it is worth a read
https://theundefeated.com/features/behind-the-delightful-success-of-tag-team-hit-commercial-with-geico/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 March 2021 20:11 (five years ago)
AD WARS - tag team's "whoomp there it is" vs. pet shop boys' "opportunities"
― voodoo chili, Monday, 22 March 2021 22:13 (five years ago)
bilingual then backwards and anything after bilingual is crap!
― xzanfar, Monday, 22 March 2021 22:59 (five years ago)
nah
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 11:55 (five years ago)
Geico wins Mad Men Ace Award because visuals of Allstate spoiled by shitty singing hood ornament, looking like a sweetened-up Wicked Witch, but musically I find "Opportunities" more exciting.
― dow, Tuesday, 23 March 2021 17:57 (five years ago)
I can't recall many good covers of PSB songs, except by Liza/Dusty etc, but this a lovely and summery, found by accident on Spotify:
https://open.spotify.com/track/4clr0ehfzrEKvLepw4WffW?si=9c65ffc509534d5c
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 1 July 2022 13:30 (three years ago)
I saw an announcement for Disco 5 and got very excited, then looked at the track listing:
https://shop.petshopboys.co.uk/eu/disco-5-1cd/5021732831224.html
*sad trombone*
― our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Tuesday, 30 September 2025 16:11 (eight months ago)
Christ.
― Madchen, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 17:41 (eight months ago)
The fuck is that all about
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 17:50 (eight months ago)
Have always thought the music of Noel Gallagher's High Flying Birds was perfect for a remix
― LocalGarda, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 17:54 (eight months ago)
"What did you DO?" "It's our John Cage tribute."
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 18:03 (eight months ago)
Not seeing the problem tbh. I don't know these remixes but I can't imagine any of them are bad?
I mean I don't like Sleaford Mods at all but I can sort of tolerate them on those Orbital and Prodigy tracks, but idk.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 19:11 (eight months ago)
the Weller one is fantastic.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 22:39 (eight months ago)
Was always a bit let down that their supposed 'guitar' album Release wasn't rockist enough
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 30 September 2025 23:05 (eight months ago)
Their version of "I'm in Love with a German Film Star" was a surprising failure. On paper it sounds like it should work brilliantly, but the actual results were as flat as a pancake.
― Vast Halo, Wednesday, 1 October 2025 08:52 (eight months ago)
PSB are excited to announce “Obscure Pet Shop Boys”, a special run of five intimate shows in April 2026 at London’s Electric Ballroom. The concerts will feature a setlist of non-single album tracks, b-sides and fan favourites. Full details to be revealed here this Wednesday, 12th November.
― nashwan, Monday, 10 November 2025 10:18 (six months ago)
sounds fun!
― LocalGarda, Monday, 10 November 2025 12:40 (six months ago)
That would be so fun rather than a typical hit-leaning show.
― the way out of (Eazy), Monday, 10 November 2025 23:28 (six months ago)
yeah I would love that, when I saw Sparks it was that kind of setlist - not that they really have that many 'hits', but it was stuffed with deep cuts and so many tracks I'd never even consider they'd whip out, made it so much fun
― frogbs, Monday, 10 November 2025 23:32 (six months ago)
That sounds amazing.
"Play 'Your Funny Uncle'!", the audience cried. "Searching for the Face of Jesus!", a small faction demanded.
― Fed up with your constant and uniform motion (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 07:51 (six months ago)
Fingers crossed this becomes a small venues tour. Might live to regret not making the trip to London though.
― PaulTMA, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 10:43 (six months ago)
Chris doing One of the Crowd would surely raise the roof.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 14:02 (six months ago)
I was just listening to Alternative this weekend and wondering why they didn’t do a tour like this so I of course take full credit for this happening
― our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 14:46 (six months ago)
I get excited (ILM gets excited too)!
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 14:55 (six months ago)
perhaps my favorite PSB chorus - "Miserablism...is is...and isn't isn't"
they really oughta repress the Alternative 3xLP, the people are clamoring for it, also as I recall the later B-sides collection called Format was pretty good as well?
― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 15:01 (six months ago)
There's been some speculation in this thread, I see
There were a couple deep cuts when I saw them on the Fundamental tour, "Shopping" a particularly fun one. This tour is a phenomenal idea
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 17:20 (six months ago)
I would love to see Shopping, it’s been one of my faves since 1987! Occasionally used as background music on telly, over a montage of rampant 1980s consumerism.
― Madchen, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 17:38 (six months ago)
Yeah, terrific version on the 2006 tour. They played "Two Divided By Zero" in 2009!
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 17:41 (six months ago)
Nice, would have loved to see that! They played "Dreaming of the Queen" on the 2006 tour as well, which was the biggest surprise for me, but I don't think it fully worked live
― Vinnie, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 19:04 (six months ago)
Lost my shit when they played 'Two Divided By Zero' at Primavera 2010 (also for 'Why Don't We Live Together?')
― nashwan, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 20:08 (six months ago)
The latter is my favorite PSB song.
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 20:09 (six months ago)
Raisin' the literal negroni in my hand rn to you
― nashwan, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 20:41 (six months ago)
idk why this is but every time I visit Mexico I hear multiple Pet Shop Boys songs out in the wild...while downtown or in restaurants or whatever...they really love 'em there
― frogbs, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 20:45 (six months ago)
yes Format was also great, and not just because it opened with their best B-side ever
― fall of the house of urrsher (sic), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 21:58 (six months ago)
When I saw them in 1991, the deep cuts included "My October Symphony", "I'm Not Scared", "We All Feel Better in the Dark", "So Sorry, I Said" and yes, "Your Funny Uncle".
Also, the encore began with Neil arriving alone onstage with an acoustic guitar to perform the first verse of "Always on My Mind".
― Vast Halo, Tuesday, 11 November 2025 22:08 (six months ago)
^^ released on VHS and laserdisc, remastered and expanded on DVD with a commentary track from Chris, Neil and Chris Heath
― fall of the house of urrsher (sic), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 22:59 (six months ago)
I get a zillion times more mileage out of Format than one might have predicted during the era covered, given that my attentiveness to even their A-sides had really dropped away through the post-imperial period. I was a fool around the turn of the century, basically.
― Fed up with your constant and uniform motion (Nag! Nag! Nag!), Tuesday, 11 November 2025 23:18 (six months ago)
Just tried to pre-order the announced book Volume as a means of getting priority for the gig but it's rejecting my payment details ugh.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 12 November 2025 10:52 (six months ago)
there’s a no-purchase-necessary link here
https://npn.wmx.co/petshopboysobscurepresale
― piscesx, Wednesday, 12 November 2025 11:46 (six months ago)
TY!
― nashwan, Wednesday, 12 November 2025 13:50 (six months ago)
My favorite was when they played "Do I have To" on the Yes tour.
― LeRooLeRoo, Wednesday, 12 November 2025 23:01 (six months ago)