MBV. Unlikely.
While rumours have suggested they are recording a new album, or that three of them are finalising dates for a comeback tour, MOJO can confirm that MBV have definitely not reformed.
'All it is,' Shields explains, 'is that there's a compilation of the three Creation EP's coming out through Columbia, and I just have to remaster that stuff. It's going to be out in April or May ((record Collecter mag says early May)) and it's got four tracks we never released before on it. Two of them are from a session we did in Jan '89, which was us attempting to be what was eventually the Glider EP. It's like a mirror image of that music but a lesser version, which we never put out. So there's two tracks from that and two tracks from Isn't Anything time.'Alluding to the band's great lost album for Island, which, after five years and a small fortune was never completed, he added 'There is other stuff we didn't finish that we maybe will finish someday.....but the timing's not right.'
The timing's not right! Priceless!So what has happened to the 4 CD box with all live stuff and the collected early EP material...Bah!
― mzui, Friday, 16 April 2004 09:05 (twenty-two years ago)
it was never likely.
however, according to a "source", kevin does indeed have the masters to all the released material (including the pre-Creation stuff)..
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 16 April 2004 09:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― mark grout (mark grout), Friday, 16 April 2004 09:10 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 April 2004 09:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 16 April 2004 09:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― doomie x, Friday, 16 April 2004 09:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― mzui, Friday, 16 April 2004 09:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 16 April 2004 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Friday, 16 April 2004 09:17 (twenty-two years ago)
― Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 19:31 (twenty years ago)
..so, i guess that means Weiland will be at Coachella in some form.
― Dom iNut (donut), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 19:57 (twenty years ago)
― Christopher Costello (CGC), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:39 (twenty years ago)
"We are 100 percent going to make another My Bloody Valentine record unless we die or something."
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:34 (nineteen years ago)
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:40 (nineteen years ago)
but NME are running the story as well, so it's true! :
http://www.nme.com/news/my-bloody-valentine/25821
― StanM (StanM), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:51 (nineteen years ago)
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Monday, 15 January 2007 12:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Matt Slack ((1903-70)), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:09 (nineteen years ago)
Of course, that could happen at any time within the next 60 years!
― mark grout (mark grout), Monday, 15 January 2007 13:28 (nineteen years ago)
― Jarlr'mai (jarlrmai), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)
― Colonel Poo (Colonel Poo), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:09 (nineteen years ago)
― the original hauntology blogging crew (Enrique), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)
― NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:48 (nineteen years ago)
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2008/04/my_bloody_valen_4.html
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 22:46 (eighteen years ago)
They never will let a new promo photo surface, I'm positive.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 22:47 (eighteen years ago)
"Currently, only one show is confirmed: a headlining slot at the soon-to-be-announced All Tomorrow's Parties Festival in upstate New York the weekend of September 20-21."
ATP in...upstate New York? But I LIVE in upstate New York! 2008 is looking up!
― Z S, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 22:53 (eighteen years ago)
Saratoga? Great Falls?
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 22:55 (eighteen years ago)
Bethel Woods? Plattsburgh?
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:10 (eighteen years ago)
(great falls?)
Troy?
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:17 (eighteen years ago)
Buffalo
― J0hn D., Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:18 (eighteen years ago)
they're opening for Ani
― J0hn D., Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:19 (eighteen years ago)
We've all been waiting for the MBV-Utah Phillips collaboration
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:22 (eighteen years ago)
Hopefully they hit the Great Sacandaga Lakes ... the fall tourist season is hott up there!
― tylerw, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:26 (eighteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letchworth_State_Park
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:32 (eighteen years ago)
Hopefully, it's the NY State Fairgrounds in beautiful Solvay.
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:33 (eighteen years ago)
Letchworth is a great park. But all jokes aside, upstate probably means somewhere along the Hudson and/or in the Catskills.
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:34 (eighteen years ago)
yeah, I was gonna say fairgrounds. It's not Bethel Woods - Martina McBride's there on Sunday.
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:36 (eighteen years ago)
When I was a kid I new all the secret ways to get into the fair for free. Maybe all those holes in the fence are still there!
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:39 (eighteen years ago)
ski resort?
― gabbneb, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:44 (eighteen years ago)
How about 1,000 Islands? (I could do this all night.)
― QuantumNoise, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 23:45 (eighteen years ago)
MBV, Low, Drones, Perfect From Now On...I hate everyone that gets to go to this.
― Simon H., Wednesday, 23 April 2008 00:03 (eighteen years ago)
!!!!
― Pillbox, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 00:55 (eighteen years ago)
Jesus Christ but the indie/alternative kids really are becoming the "I want to hear the classic music of my youth 'cause it was the best music" generation without making any bones about it, eh?
― J0hn D., Wednesday, 23 April 2008 00:58 (eighteen years ago)
I thought this was going to be some hostile anti-Ned javascript.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 00:59 (eighteen years ago)
Yeah the whole-album-in-concert thing is getting a little ridiculous, but with a lineup like that, who gives a fuck? Does anyone know how much tickets to this thing are likely to cost. The ATP site doesn't have any info on that as of yet.
― Pillbox, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 01:00 (eighteen years ago)
I don't think I really care about any of the other bands, and with Colm supposedly out, my excitement is tempered.
― Spencer Chow, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 01:54 (eighteen years ago)
$225 just for tickets, more for accommodations25 just for tickets, more for accommodations
― Nick Minichino, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 01:56 (eighteen years ago)
that didn't work right, oh well
― Nick Minichino, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 01:57 (eighteen years ago)
all respect to tMg \m/, but someone put on an Unwound, Lync, Indian Summer, and Second Story Window show there in mid-1993. That's at least on the same tier of awesome... not to mention a Dump/Refrigerator show in 1999 or so.
― Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 22:54 (eighteen years ago)
See, this was the 90s awesomeness, bands from San Diego that lasted three weeks before recombining DNA to form two splinter groups until it was a mass pyramid schem'a screamo.
― Mackro Mackro, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 22:55 (eighteen years ago)
yeah i guess it's sad how things work out. but isn't a lot of this just a reaction to all the PR b.s. the artists themselves were spewing at the time they were fresh (like what ned was talking about).....the same stuff all the classic rock godz they were supposedly fighting against said when they were young bucks.
every generation thinks it invented the blowjob.
― M@tt He1ges0n, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 22:57 (eighteen years ago)
Talking bout my ge-ne-ra-tion!
― Sean Carruthers, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 23:23 (eighteen years ago)
M@tt for the win
― Shakey Mo Collier, Wednesday, 23 April 2008 23:36 (eighteen years ago)
Why the fuck is everyone saying that it's going to be MBV performing Loveless? Neither of the links that list other bands playing old albums put anything beside the Valentine name.
― energy flash gordon, Thursday, 24 April 2008 04:12 (eighteen years ago)
Thurston Moore performing Psychic Hearts
I'd be against this kinda thing but I just can't wait for this timeless classic to be performed live.
― Raw Patrick, Thursday, 24 April 2008 08:30 (eighteen years ago)
I'm not sure anyone has stated this yet, but I think there are two sides to the "classic album" performance. One is a band like the Stones, Sex Pistols or whatever touring on old material over and over, nothing new to add, and yes, that's gotta be lame. But on the other hand, a lot of the bands doing the ATP Don't Look Back thing -- for example Sonic Youth, Public Enemy, Low all come to mind -- I mean, all of those bands are relatively active with new material as well, so the classic album front-to-back performance is more of a limited-run special event than a way for the bands to cash in repeatedly. Sonic Youth has stopped with the Daydream tour and are back to new material; Low did a one-time performance of Things We Lost in the Fire, yet they haven't stopped pushing forward since; and Public Enemy will no doubt have another new, ignored album out after these Nation of Millions dates. It's not a full-blown reunion tour, it's a one-time special deal. And I think that's awesome.
― stephen, Thursday, 24 April 2008 14:42 (eighteen years ago)
And yes, I'd love to see the MBV reunion at this fest.
I have inside knowledge that they've been rehearsing with 200 effects pedals. That should be enough, no?
― Matt #2, Thursday, 24 April 2008 14:52 (eighteen years ago)
yeah stephen I'm just a grumpus about this (and plenty of other things of course) - it seems such a willful celebration of the whole concept of The Canon, which I think is a pernicious, loathsome thing to celebrate
― J0hn D., Thursday, 24 April 2008 15:01 (eighteen years ago)
per·ni·cious Audio Help [per-nish-uhs] Pronunciation Key –adjective 1. causing insidious harm or ruin; ruinous; injurious; hurtful: pernicious teachings; a pernicious lie.
is Thurston Moore trying to cause insidious harm or ruin?? i mean, I'd hardly call Psychic Hearts a part of The Canon -- it's just a good-to-great Thurston solo album that the big SY fans at this event will be excited to hear played live, and you know, the same fans will keep on checking out everything Thurston/SY does in the future regardless of this one show.
― stephen, Thursday, 24 April 2008 15:33 (eighteen years ago)
Part of me can't help but think one of the most awesome things in the world would be for a touring band with one classic album to be playing a regular show...then in the middle of their set, they play the first song from that album...followed by the second...followed by the third... People start to clue in "holy crap, are they going to play the album in its entirety?" And the band keeps playing the album in order, whipping the crowd into a frenzy. Then, they play the next-to-last song on the album ....and walk offstage. House lights go up.
― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 24 April 2008 16:48 (eighteen years ago)
If it's MBV at this thing, pulling the plug before they get to "Soon", they should win the Nobel Prize.
― Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 24 April 2008 16:50 (eighteen years ago)
When I saw the Damned they played like the 1st 5 songs off Machine Gun Etiquette, in order. I started to wonder if they were going to do the whole album but then after that they played New Rose and it was a normal set. Was fucking ace though.
― Colonel Poo, Thursday, 24 April 2008 16:50 (eighteen years ago)
x-post -- Prince doing that with Purple Rain would be even funnier.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 April 2008 16:51 (eighteen years ago)
Cheap Trick was messing around with this idea years ago. I saw them play the entire first record in Grand Rapids in the mid 90s.
― QuantumNoise, Thursday, 24 April 2008 16:52 (eighteen years ago)
x-post - Roger Waters - Meddle (without Echoes)
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:27 (eighteen years ago)
There. I gave away Coachella.
You bad man.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:27 (eighteen years ago)
Anyway, oddly (?) enough I just got wind of this in an e-mail:
PATTI SMITH AND KEVIN SHIELDS SET TO RELEASE THE CORAL SEA EMOTIONAL SPOKEN-WORD REQUIEM RECORDED LIVE IN 2005 & 2006 DOUBLE-DISC RELEASE SET FOR JULY 11. 2008Legendary artist Patti Smith and My Bloody Valentine's Kevin Shields are set to release a double-disc set of their live performance of The Coral Sea on July 11, 2008 on their own PASK imprint. The Coral Sea is Patti Smith's posthumous homage to her friend and photographer Robert Mapplethorpe and the title to her 1996 book. Kevin Shields accompanies her on guitars and effects and creates a haunting backdrop to the spoken prose.The recordings were made June 22nd 2005 and September 12th, 2006 respectively at sold-out performances at the QEH in London. The set will run almost two-hours with a different stylistic approach to each performance. The UK's Guardian upon reviewing the 2005 performance gave it 5 stars and called it "magical."One critic said of the live performance: A kind of screaming requiem, The Coral Sea describes Mapplethorpe's terminal illness. Intense, layered electronics surged to a discordant climax as Patti Smith read her poem, the words sailing over the noise like an ocean liner, with the black-and-white video showing the ocean, the liner and the grey twilight of grief. The poem tells the story of M (Mapplethorpe) on a final voyage to see the stars of the Southern Cross before he dies.Long-rumored to be released on CD, this first official issuing of these live recordings have been curated with care by both Patti Smith and Kevin Shields. Whether the duo will reprise this performance in the future is still unknown.
Legendary artist Patti Smith and My Bloody Valentine's Kevin Shields are set to release a double-disc set of their live performance of The Coral Sea on July 11, 2008 on their own PASK imprint. The Coral Sea is Patti Smith's posthumous homage to her friend and photographer Robert Mapplethorpe and the title to her 1996 book. Kevin Shields accompanies her on guitars and effects and creates a haunting backdrop to the spoken prose.
The recordings were made June 22nd 2005 and September 12th, 2006 respectively at sold-out performances at the QEH in London. The set will run almost two-hours with a different stylistic approach to each performance. The UK's Guardian upon reviewing the 2005 performance gave it 5 stars and called it "magical."
One critic said of the live performance: A kind of screaming requiem, The Coral Sea describes Mapplethorpe's terminal illness. Intense, layered electronics surged to a discordant climax as Patti Smith read her poem, the words sailing over the noise like an ocean liner, with the black-and-white video showing the ocean, the liner and the grey twilight of grief. The poem tells the story of M (Mapplethorpe) on a final voyage to see the stars of the Southern Cross before he dies.
Long-rumored to be released on CD, this first official issuing of these live recordings have been curated with care by both Patti Smith and Kevin Shields. Whether the duo will reprise this performance in the future is still unknown.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 April 2008 18:44 (eighteen years ago)
stephen you didn't actually copy in the dictionary definition of "pernicious" instead of say trying to figure out what I might have meant by it did you
I know you didn't do that
― J0hn D., Thursday, 24 April 2008 20:00 (eighteen years ago)
note that when I say "I know," I don't actually mean "I have knowledge of" here
no MBV no peace know MBV know peace
― M@tt He1ges0n, Thursday, 24 April 2008 20:03 (eighteen years ago)
If it's MBV at this thing, pulling the plug before they get to "Soon", they should win the Nobel Prize.-- Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 24 April 2008 16:50 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link
-- Sean Carruthers, Thursday, 24 April 2008 16:50 (3 hours ago) Bookmark Link
Not the Nobel Peace Prize though.
― Mark G, Thursday, 24 April 2008 20:14 (eighteen years ago)
That is GREAT news about The Coral Sea!
― Spencer Chow, Thursday, 24 April 2008 20:25 (eighteen years ago)
they should win the Nobel War Prize
― J0hn D., Thursday, 24 April 2008 20:27 (eighteen years ago)
???
http://homepage2.nifty.com/backpagerecords/EricBurdonWar.jpg
― Mackro Mackro, Thursday, 24 April 2008 20:53 (eighteen years ago)
You went where I dared not go.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 24 April 2008 21:09 (eighteen years ago)
stephen you didn't actually copy in the dictionary definition of "pernicious" instead of say trying to figure out what I might have meant by it did youI know you didn't do that
i'm not sure any definition of "pernicious" that you could give would fit the Thurston scenario, regardless.
― stephen, Thursday, 24 April 2008 21:38 (eighteen years ago)
sigh
― J0hn D., Thursday, 24 April 2008 21:42 (eighteen years ago)
would copy in various OED exempla, many admittedly obscure (nb by obscure I don't mean "concealed in darkness") that are sort of divaspeak for "hateful" but will you be content with "he is a pernicious citizen, said M. Curius, who cannot be contented with seven acres" (Hume, Pol. Disc. 1782)? sorry if you're excited to see psychic hearts or something, no harm intended yo
― J0hn D., Thursday, 24 April 2008 21:50 (eighteen years ago)
obscure (nb by obscure I don't mean "concealed in darkness")
ha ha ha very funny :P
i live in texas, i'd be lucky to make it to ny for that
― stephen, Thursday, 24 April 2008 23:40 (eighteen years ago)
Sarcasm?
― Reatards Unite, Thursday, 24 April 2008 23:49 (eighteen years ago)
ha, yeah, that record is OK, but it's certainly one of the odder choices to be played live in its entirety ... i'd like to hear thurston do that "elegy for dead rock stars" tune live ...
― tylerw, Friday, 25 April 2008 00:09 (eighteen years ago)
Sarcasm yeah.
― Raw Patrick, Friday, 25 April 2008 08:00 (eighteen years ago)
Soz to be all British and that.
sarcasm generator still on.
― Mark G, Friday, 25 April 2008 08:02 (eighteen years ago)
Sonic Youth has stopped with the Daydream tour and are back to new material;
And they did 40 minutes of post-Rourke material as the encore for the Daydream DLB shows.
Part of me can't help but think one of the most awesome things in the world would be
yer man Trayce saw They Might Be Giants in Melbourne six years ago, where for the second night of a two-night run they opened by playing Flood in its entirety. But they hadn't announced it and apparently people were baffled so they never did it again.
(they'd done pre-announced, sold-on-that-basis Flood shows in the States before.)
Still no indication that MBV aren't going to be playing new shit at these shows!
― energy flash gordon, Friday, 25 April 2008 10:12 (eighteen years ago)
ATP New York sold out in about 5-10 minutes...
― stephen, Friday, 25 April 2008 14:50 (eighteen years ago)
we all wasted our time here, then
― gabbneb, Friday, 25 April 2008 14:58 (eighteen years ago)
well, it also means that additional tour dates are more likely to be announced sooner than later :)
― stephen, Friday, 25 April 2008 15:07 (eighteen years ago)
Additional tickets will go on sale in the coming weeks, with accommodations in a nearby hotel.
http://www.pollstar.com/news/viewnews.pl?NewsID=10004
― gabbneb, Friday, 25 April 2008 15:44 (eighteen years ago)
= next week, sez customer service.
― stephen, Friday, 25 April 2008 16:08 (eighteen years ago)
So they're supposed to be planning "6-8 US Dates" dunno if that's including ATP, but I'm assuming another New York show, LA, San Francisco, Chicago maybe?, uhh???? Toronto or Boston/Philly/Seattle/Montreal/any ideas??
― Michael_Pemulis, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:03 (eighteen years ago)
RED ROCKS
― tylerw, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:05 (eighteen years ago)
6-8 US Dates would not include Canadian dates, assuming there are any.
I think LA and Chicago are certain, and SF and Austin are probable. I think NY is likely, but not guaranteed, especially if there are single-day tix to ATP. Other possibles - Boston, Philly, DC, Seattle or Portland (or Vancouver), Detroit (or Toronto). Twin Cities? Miami or Atlanta?
― gabbneb, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:07 (eighteen years ago)
one would presume MBV would be providing intensities in at least ten cities...
― henry s, Friday, 25 April 2008 22:12 (eighteen years ago)
pocatello, helena, cheyenne, ft. collins, chico, and provo FTW
― 6335, Friday, 25 April 2008 23:21 (eighteen years ago)
i like zeppo myself
― gabbneb, Saturday, 26 April 2008 00:37 (eighteen years ago)