harvey danger - flagpole sitta

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i loved this song then and i love it now, i like how he sings

― trife (simon_tr), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 06:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Great internal rhymes! "Now I'm an am-pu/tee, goddam you"

― dave q, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 09:57 (twenty-two years ago)

i honestly feel like i'm the only person on earth who loves their second album. but i can't be the only person. can i? it hit that same kinda Pinkerton nerve for me.

― scott seward, Tuesday, 23 September 2003 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Another one I hate. Is there anything you like, trife, that isn't utter trash?

― Andrew (enneff), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 10:43 (twenty-two years ago)

GREAT GREAT song

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 11:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Andrew, you are SO WRONG. I know nothing else by this band but this song alone is pure gold.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:15 (twenty-two years ago)

yup, agree.

― mark grout (mark grout), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Is this the song with the "like [some guy] I make mad films/okay I don't make films/but if I did they'd have a samurai" verses?

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:18 (twenty-two years ago)

No, that's "One Week" by the Barenaked Ladies, the OTHER semi-ironic hit song of 1998.

― My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:19 (twenty-two years ago)

*pictures flat plain*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:43 (twenty-two years ago)

i KNEW this would be a trife thread (altho admittedly i had just come from the 'clocks' one)

― stevem (blueski), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 12:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I heart Harvey Danger. The poor man's Weezer, but this song was classic nu-alternative

― Matt Helgeson (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

one of the most under-appreciated alt.rock albums of the 90s. terrific!

has anyone else heard the new Long Winters album? the lead singer of H.D. is a member of the band, and it is incredible pop music.

― Sean M (Sean M), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

this song is absolutely classic, yeah! 'i just wanna publish zines/and rage against machines' ...

― maura (maura), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

god i miss the 1990s

― maura (maura), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

this song used to annoy me because of the line "only stupid people are breeding". i guess it was supposed to do that. the hook is pretty undeniable... it sounds like the dandy warhols with a dork from a teen movie singing, which as a concept is x1000 better than the dandy warhols.

― minna (minna), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Seam M OTM about the Long Winters album. Recommended power pop with some incredibly catchy choruses.

― Ben Boyer (Ben Boyer), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:04 (twenty-two years ago)

minna POWERFULLY OTM

― Aaron A., Tuesday, 23 September 2003 15:58 (twenty-two years ago)

thank you so much for reminding me about this song. i once was lost but now i'm found.

― Felcher (Felcher), Tuesday, 23 September 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

OK it's better than any Dandy Warhols song but we don't have be hating on the Dandys. They's quite the professional and consistent combo.

I really should listen to King James Version again (I have in a big box of promos somewhere) but Sad Sweetheart Of The Rodeo was a nice song.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:31 (twenty-two years ago)

This is better back to back with the Refreshments' "Banditos."

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Please do not ever mention "Banditos" again.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, come now. My wayward youth was spent with Banditos, Harvey Danger, Marcy Playground, Tracy Bonham and all the other wonders of mid '90s commercial-alternative-radio.

I have no capacity to dislike them.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you still play with action figures? Something things need to be left in the past, man. Like "Banditos."

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Do you still play with action figures?

Haha, I never did. But I do have a Dirk Nowitzki action figure on my desk.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:45 (twenty-two years ago)

T/S: Marcy Playground v. the Refreshments, who is hated more

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Marcy. Refreshments at least did the King Of The Hill theme.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 02:48 (twenty-two years ago)

dirk nowitzki!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 06:40 (twenty-two years ago)

get ready to replace that nowitzki figure with an antawn jamison one. the future is now in dallas! (p.s. i haven't heard this song in a while and remember it fondly [perhaps for that very reason])

― will g. (will g.), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd rather have a Steve Nash figure, complete with long, greasy hair and string to hold it back.

And a Nick Van Exel figure to stand on the side and fume that he got traded to a shitty team.

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)

I hated this song when it came out, but now I don't.

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

This song strongly irritated me at the time, and I suspect it still would.

Marcy Playground, on the other hand, had a few good tunes.

― Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

My mom used to think that Marcy Plaground song said "Asthma, sex and candy".

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)

That is so much better. Wheezing, Kit-Kats and gettin' it on!

― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

TS: Geggy Tah Vs. Harvey Danger

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

ha ha I liked Geggy Tah

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

and i dont even own a tv

― 3333333333, Sunday, 3 July 2005 08:31 (twenty years ago)

FUCKING TERRIBLE

and since when did milo have a "desk"?!?!???!?

― hstencil (hstencil), Sunday, 3 July 2005 09:04 (twenty years ago)

how'd you forget Bare Naked Ladies?

― nicholas de jong (nicholas de jong), Sunday, 3 July 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

I lost my Dirk action figure when I moved and there's still no greasy Nash figure. Boooo.

― milozauckerman (miloaukerman), Sunday, 3 July 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

i loved this as a kiddy, still like it now. i have the 7", i think.

― g-kit (g-kit), Monday, 4 July 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

YOU COULDN'T BE GAYER IF YOUR NAME WAS ETHAN PADGETT

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:02 (twenty years ago)

yeah, this song is all right! i sometimes see one of the guys from harvey danger at shows in chicago. i guess he lives here now.

an interesting taking sides might be this vs. "semi-charmed life."

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:06 (twenty years ago)

"semi-charmed life" is a perfect example of a song i probably "hated" when it came out because i thought i was supposed to or something, but really sounds great now.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:07 (twenty years ago)

i don't think i ever actually hated "flagpole sitta," tho, because i was able to appreciate it as a novelty/one-hit wonder (whereas third eye blind signalled the horrible mediocrity of mass culture, i guess?)

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:09 (twenty years ago)

gay gay gay buttfucking gay vs. gay gay buttfuckin gay

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

i also enjoyed the three seconds of "flagpole sitta" featured in the film disturbing behavior (which i saw at the dollar theater becuz i had a crush on katie holmes).

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:10 (twenty years ago)

no one commented on the ashton kutcher dream i had last night.

― jaymc (jaymc), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

stence smokes dope w.the pope

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:11 (twenty years ago)

if you like katie holmes, you're gay (HELLO TOM CRUISE)

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:12 (twenty years ago)

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Wish Johnny Cash had covered this one, slow and somber.

― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 23 May 2022 16:45 (four years ago)

had to stop the video at curves of your body / feel a bit naughty 🤢

― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 23 May 2022 17:17 (four years ago)

i swear they played it on morning “alternative” radio for 12 months straight

it was borderline abuse

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 May 2022 18:09 (four years ago)

"Run it up the flagpole" is such a 90s ad agency / James Carville phrase (appropriately played with in this song).

― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 23 May 2022 18:18 (four years ago)

don't wanna think about that lead singer playing with anything

― the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Monday, 23 May 2022 19:18 (four years ago)

song is still played on radio constantly, very much part of the oppressive 'safe list'

― dyl, Monday, 23 May 2022 19:32 (four years ago)

When this song comes up, I think of the review (Charles Aaron in Spin?, who knows) that had a line like – "He claims 'I don't even own a TV,' which means he must have copped those Elvis Costello moves while doing laundry at his parents' house."

― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Monday, 23 May 2022 19:41 (four years ago)

i have now got this bile stuck in my head on repeat but in the same way it always used to be which is (on a loop)
“paranoia paranoia everyone is coming to get meeee / dat da data dat da data data da da da daaaaaada (but in like a Jerry Lewis bellhop nasal whine)

kill me god

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 23 May 2022 20:51 (four years ago)

For years I woke up every single day with this song stuck in my head.

― Lily Dale, Monday, 23 May 2022 22:20 (four years ago)

the part that gets stuck in my head is 'butnooneeverdoes!'

― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:29 (four years ago)

vg otm

good hate watch fodder (todd in the shadows - "one hit wonderland: harvey danger").

― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:32 (four years ago)

I mean

I love this song and always have.

― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:34 (four years ago)

Eazy OTM about a Johnny Cash cover

― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:35 (four years ago)

fun fact: Bean Dad was once a touring member of this band

― alpine static, Monday, 23 May 2022 22:53 (four years ago)

noooooooooo

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Monday, 23 May 2022 22:56 (four years ago)

I really hate this song!

― brimstead, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:25 (four years ago)

Absolutely love it--had it on my decade-end list. I published a zine, I hate(d) Rage Against the Machine, I did and do own a TV.

― clemenza, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:29 (four years ago)

Reviews from 1998, the last issue of said fanzine:

http://web.archive.org/web/20001120133200/http://www.popped.com/radioon/98/ro011.html

― clemenza, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:32 (four years ago)

I can't help it and love this song. It does seem to be one of those songs that people either love or hate.

― Bee OK, Monday, 23 May 2022 23:57 (four years ago)

I didn't hate it, just thought it was "trying too hard"... I would choose "Sex and Candy" over this one (they sort of go together in my mind).

― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:07 (four years ago)

See, “Sex and Candy” was one of (many songs) from that time I couldn’t stand.

― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:25 (four years ago)

I would choose "Sex and Candy" over this one

100%

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:27 (four years ago)

sex and candy...not sexy, no appearance by cameo or mandy moore, what gives

― terence trent d'ilfer (m bison), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:31 (four years ago)

singer sounds a bit like darkest timeline J0hn D@rni3ll3

― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 00:38 (four years ago)

another terrible song!

― brimstead, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:12 (four years ago)

picking "Sex and Candy" over this is insane

― alpine static, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:23 (four years ago)

if i am chosing between those two things then my life has already gone to a terrible place so i would end it all

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 01:59 (four years ago)

Death is not an option.

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 02:02 (four years ago)

“If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice” — Geddy “Choose Yr Fake Indie Poison” Lee

― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 02:18 (four years ago)

i choose death

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:00 (four years ago)

I choose going back in time and forcing the band to I unwrite the song.

Then they release "I Don't Write the Songs" instead

― Abe Kayfabe (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:06 (four years ago)

Huh, the lead singer wrote a 33 1/3 book about Joni Mitchell.

(not sure that Todd in the Shadows video is a hate watch though, since Todd seems to be on the correct side of this debate)

― enochroot, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:12 (four years ago)

i saw him open for Robyn Hitchcock 12 or so years ago, he had some nice tunes and sang harmony during some of Robyn's set. Also met him years later at a book swap at a bar, iirc he brought several Philip Roth books.

― JoeStork, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:41 (four years ago)

vg just be glad your brain didn't choose this song as its permanent wake-up alarm. I don't honestly think "Sex and Candy" would have been an improvement but I never got the choice.

― Lily Dale, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 03:55 (four years ago)

It could be worse, the “come my lady come come my lady” song was only a couple of years after this.

― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 04:01 (four years ago)

Or the “when I’m horny like thirsty she’s a cool drink of water” song.

― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 04:02 (four years ago)

A few things I didn't know...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Cu3MMzfpww

― Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 04:21 (four years ago)

^ Interesting.

I may not have heard this in full since before Peep Show was a thing. Watching the video now (for the first time, IIRC) I just keep hearing where the Peep Show edits AREN'T.

I really don't hate it. Judge me harshly if you must.

― Nag! Nag! Nag!, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 06:40 (four years ago)

Go, my lady

― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 10:45 (four years ago)

"butterfly" >> this

(not really but idk, i'm generally happier to hear it nowadays than "flagpole sitta" tho)

― dyl, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:14 (four years ago)

what was the genre of pseudo-inspirational rock-infused hip hop that had lame rhymes that seemed like cliches out of a middle school English class?

― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:17 (four years ago)

I like both this song and "come my lady," sorry not sorry

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:23 (four years ago)

But not "Sex and Candy" really

― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:23 (four years ago)

the only Marcy Playground song worth a shit is A Cloak of Elvenkind

― Gymnopédie Pablo (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:24 (four years ago)

(not sure that Todd in the Shadows video is a hate watch though, since Todd seems to be on the correct side of this debate)
― enochroot, Monday, May 23, 2022 8:12 PM

yeah, i regretted my wording as soon as i hit submit. i meant it's a good hate watch for folks like me who can't stand this song. todd is charming and informative, as always.

― Let's disco dance, Hammurabi! (Austin), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 14:59 (four years ago)

of course “butterfly” is better than this, that song rules!!!!

― brimstead, Tuesday, 24 May 2022 18:22 (four years ago)

Yeah, I like "Butterfly" (I don't think of it in the same "category," tho)

― Bob Dylan's iconic Ray Ban sunglasses (morrisp), Tuesday, 24 May 2022 18:23 (four years ago)

eleven months pass...

At a party the other night, we did karaoke to both “Flagpole Sitta” and “Sex and Candy” (neither was my choice). They were both pretty fun!

― Are You There God? It's a-Me, Mario (morrisp), Monday, 1 May 2023 15:46 (three years ago)

My mom used to think that Marcy Plaground song said "Asthma, sex and candy".

― Ally (mlescaut), Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:40 PM (nineteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

― ꙮ (map), Monday, 1 May 2023 17:37 (three years ago)

This is the thrilling conversation I've been waiting for.

― Hideous Lump, Monday, 1 May 2023 21:29 (three years ago)

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