― Chris, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― keith, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― jel, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sterling Clover, Sunday, 19 August 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 02:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 12:54 (twenty years ago) link
― scott m (mcd), Wednesday, 31 December 2003 18:29 (twenty years ago) link
"Smoking Room" / "Loss Leader" / "Sea" / "Wird" are all particularly gorgeous. The sudden shift to loudness on "Sea" scared the hell out of me the first time I listened.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:52 (twenty years ago) link
search:"realize" "sea" "tom" "w" "pea"(incl. the bitch magnet version) "ides"
destroy:their cover of seam's "new year", ugh. don't get me started on this or else hstencil will come by to kick my ass.
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 13 February 2004 20:59 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:00 (twenty years ago) link
I wish Steve was still making music.
― hstencil, Friday, 13 February 2004 21:02 (twenty years ago) link
WHAT DO I DO?
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Russ, Friday, 13 February 2004 21:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:19 (twenty years ago) link
WHICH ONES DO YOU HAVE? I RECOMMEND HEADSPARKS ("ATARI" IS THE BEST SONG ON THERE) OR THEIR COVER OF BREAKING CIRCUS' "DRIVING THE DYNAMITE TRUCK".
― gyfag! (gygax!), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:22 (twenty years ago) link
― gyfag! (gygax!), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 13 February 2004 21:25 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:29 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 13 February 2004 21:32 (twenty years ago) link
― Russ, Friday, 13 February 2004 21:33 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link
― hstencil, Friday, 13 February 2004 21:35 (twenty years ago) link
the 7"s i have are "kernel" & "granny 9x"
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:36 (twenty years ago) link
is the kernel a 2x7"? you got gyped if not because you're missing one of their best songs.
ps: Russ, much love.
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:39 (twenty years ago) link
no love for me, *sniff*
― hstencil, Friday, 13 February 2004 21:40 (twenty years ago) link
― gygax! (gygax!), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:41 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian Johnson (orion), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:48 (twenty years ago) link
― scott m (mcd), Friday, 13 February 2004 21:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Stupid (Stupid), Saturday, 14 February 2004 15:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 16:26 (twenty years ago) link
I got Probot.
Chris Brokaw sings almost the same way the guy from Codeine does.
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 16:28 (twenty years ago) link
I still haven't heard Probot but I still definitely want to hear the tunes with Mike Dean and Kurt Brecht if nothing else. Good stuff or no??
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 16:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 16:45 (twenty years ago) link
Yes Chris Brokaw is from Codeine.
You might like Probot. But I have to say, there was at least on track where I yelled, "Slayer" and then started laughing. Just because I thought it sounded like something Slayer would have written.
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 16:51 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:07 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:21 (twenty years ago) link
Remember what you said to me?
DO A SEARCH
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:22 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:29 (twenty years ago) link
You say that like, either we all didn't notice, or you don't like it.
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:34 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
Look, Dave plays all of these on the album:
DRUMS, GUITAR, BASS, PAN FLUTE, VIBRASLAP, VIOLA, SOUSAPHONE, AND EVER OTHER F*CKIN' INSTRUMENT
What is a pan flute, vibraslap and a sousaphone? There's VIOLA?!!!! AND HE PLAYS IT?!
I usually don't like slow songs, but I like Codeine, so it seems weird.
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:36 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:39 (twenty years ago) link
Hey, lets not ruin the Codeine thread like we did that other one. I'll check out the Probot album and get back to ya on it though.
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:42 (twenty years ago) link
Back on Codeine
Maybe if Chris Brokaw didn't drum so slowly, it wouldn't sound so slow. He's a much better guitar player.
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:44 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:55 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:57 (twenty years ago) link
The singer!
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 17:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:00 (twenty years ago) link
― Aja (aja), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:01 (twenty years ago) link
― Ian Johnson (orion), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Johnny Badlees (crispssssss), Saturday, 14 February 2004 18:07 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 15 February 2004 03:19 (twenty years ago) link
― orange countdown, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 17:51 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:22 (eighteen years ago) link
― orange countown, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:23 (eighteen years ago) link
― hstencil (hstencil), Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:25 (eighteen years ago) link
and that "broken hearted wine" tune they did on the peel session, is the saddest song ever, with just one guitar as a background...it's one of my favourites by them.
― blame jerry, Wednesday, 19 April 2006 18:30 (eighteen years ago) link
back: http://www.atpfestival.com/events/ibymlondon2012.php
― Jamie_ATP, Wednesday, 9 November 2011 16:14 (twelve years ago) link
and touring Europe, and reissuing their albums in a box set. happy.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Monday, 20 February 2012 10:48 (twelve years ago) link
Box set now available for pre-order from Numero. First 500 copies have an extra 7'' single, not sure if they're still available... http://www.numerogroup.com/catalog_detail.php?uid=01354
― brain (krakow), Monday, 27 February 2012 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
Is there going to be an option for just the LPs or just the CDs?
― Gonjasufjanstephen O'Malley (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 27 February 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, not really sure what the point is of CDs that repeat the same material as the double LPs. A download code would have been cheaper and more practical. This seems unnecessary. Plus, the only one I really love is Frigid Stars and my copy of that has held up just fine. Will probably pass on this.
― If Assholes Could Fly This Place Would Be An Airport, Monday, 27 February 2012 22:58 (twelve years ago) link
I believe not - I think it will be all or nothing, both with the box set and separate reissues, which I think are scheduled too.
― brain (krakow), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:26 (twelve years ago) link
Tour dates!
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:32 (twelve years ago) link
I'll be at the London Mogwai-curated ATP at Alexandra Palace, in case anyone else is heading to that...
― brain (krakow), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link
Stupid, stupid move. How does it benefit anyone to force consumer to buy the set with two different formats with the same material? This makes the set more expensive, in a completely needless way. You'd think you'd end up selling more copies by offering a choice. They've certainly lost a sale to me.
― stan this sick bunt (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
yeah this is bizarre
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:15 (twelve years ago) link
Although saying that, CDs are so cheap to produce I doubt having a download code instead would have led to any appreciable reduction in the price. You can think of it as they're chucking in the CDs for free if you like.
― ban this sick stunt (anagram), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
Anyone catch their first reunion show in Seattle last week? Nothing's surfaced on youtube as of now.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Friday, 13 April 2012 13:41 (twelve years ago) link
I would have gone to this had it not been the same night as Radiohead.
― ma ck ro ma ck ro (mackro mackro), Sunday, 15 April 2012 06:16 (twelve years ago) link
still no show reports? seeing them tonight, am very excited
here they are last week at ATP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Kq4OWX1_wk
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 09:41 (twelve years ago) link
I wasn't able to make it to ATP, very sadly.
My friend, who knew how much I was wanting to see them, sent me a text just after their set saying simply...
"Oh, krakow!"
Upon prodding, he was decidedly enthusiastic.
― only NWOFHM! is real (krakow), Wednesday, 30 May 2012 10:05 (twelve years ago) link
Well, that was really great. No major surprises, just that endless slow unfurling. They encored with "Broken Hearted Wine" which was new to me (it's not on the LPs) but a definite classic. Had a quick word with them afterwards and they confirmed this reunion is only to promote the box set, there are no plans for new material. Which may be just as well tbh.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 31 May 2012 09:32 (twelve years ago) link
I haven't listened to Codeine in ... since Frigid Stars came out. I was embarrassed to own it, it was uncool. Now that I am no longer a heroin abuser I can enjoy it.
― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Bulgarian Tourist Chamber (Mount Cleaners), Friday, 1 June 2012 00:03 (twelve years ago) link
new interview:
http://www.kickingagainstthepricks.org/features-interviews-codeine-2012
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Monday, 11 June 2012 22:57 (eleven years ago) link
"To be one mile high Then I would kill you all"
Chilling. This band just sounds so fucking lonely.. Love'em though.
― Mule, Monday, 27 August 2012 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
A band I can always go back to and find something new. Really love them.
Though I wasn't "there" at the time, so I'm sure that lack of baggage contributes to their longevity with me.
― Austin, Tuesday, 28 August 2012 02:46 (eleven years ago) link
No one I know but my brother and myself ever listens to this band. Which is a shame.
Most perfect, self-contained discography ever?
― Mule, Thursday, 8 August 2013 22:45 (ten years ago) link
I got White Birch maybe as long as 8 years ago and never got anything else. I LOVE "Loss Leader", one of the ultimate slow sad 90s songs.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 8 August 2013 23:14 (ten years ago) link
"Loss Leader" never fails.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 26 September 2016 20:57 (seven years ago) link
Need to get more of this band.
Go for the Numero box set, it has everything. you won't regret it.
"Broken Hearted Wine" still the one that never fails for me
― heaven parker (anagram), Tuesday, 27 September 2016 07:39 (seven years ago) link
I bought the Numero box set a few months ago, it's a thing of beauty but I've not been in the headspace to delve in since.
― michaellambert, Tuesday, 27 September 2016 09:16 (seven years ago) link
Unreleased album from 1992 on its way:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfE-AU7pJOL/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 14:07 (one year ago) link
O_O
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
― I'm ANTIFA and I vote. (Austin), Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:40 (one year ago) link
I read this book called "Why We Buy: The Science of Shopping," by Paco Underhill, and early on he mentions a detail-oriented assistant whose job is basically to stand around supermarkets and observe how various people shop. Then he drops a mention that this person used to be in a '90s band called Codeine. (!) From an interview with Underhill I found:
What kinds of habits—and what kinds of people—make for good observation?Over the last 34 years I sent out crews of trackers all over the world. When I’m in an environment observing, I have to be very careful after doing it for an hour—I haven’t seen what I need to see. It’s often the second or third day when you really see and understand. So a lot of it is a Zen-like state of patience.One man did 500 missions for me. He had a short career as a guitar player in a prominent early 90s band called Codeine. It had its own distinct beat. He became a kindergarten teacher. I found him doing substitute teaching and he was so patient and so observant and so rhythmic, with a slow steady beat, and he was so empathetic.
Over the last 34 years I sent out crews of trackers all over the world. When I’m in an environment observing, I have to be very careful after doing it for an hour—I haven’t seen what I need to see. It’s often the second or third day when you really see and understand. So a lot of it is a Zen-like state of patience.
One man did 500 missions for me. He had a short career as a guitar player in a prominent early 90s band called Codeine. It had its own distinct beat. He became a kindergarten teacher. I found him doing substitute teaching and he was so patient and so observant and so rhythmic, with a slow steady beat, and he was so empathetic.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link
I assume it's John Engle, then:
John has been doing fieldwork for my company, Envirosell, for more than ten years, in between working as a kindergarten teacher. Trained to monitor five-year-olds, does he have patience? Oh, yeah. He also just completed his two-hundredth fieldwork assignment. He’s of medium height, with brown hair, a spare build, crinkles in the corners of his eyes and big broad feet. He has no trouble standing all day.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 22 June 2022 16:02 (one year ago) link
thanks josh, i'm glad he's found his niche
there's a bit of background on the forthcoming album here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CfPiTihuGKE/
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 26 June 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
Seems to be mostly early versions of songs that were later reworked as their final album The White Birch:
https://numerogroup.com/products/dessau
I love that album and I think it's probably unimprovable upon but we shall see
― joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Sunday, 26 June 2022 16:50 (one year ago) link
i make it 4 songs that later appeared on The White Birch, 2 songs that were on Barely Real, plus 2 others (I Wonder, Something New) that i think were probably on that numero box
― o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 26 June 2022 17:27 (one year ago) link
I loved Frigid Stars when it came out, it was an escape from stupid bombast and auteurism.
Then I threw it away, embarrassed about my slowcore period. I think I paid too much attention to other people's opinions.
Dug it out and enjoyed it, now I'm revisiting this 90's tendency.
― I Met Mr. Mathis (I M Losted), Sunday, 26 June 2022 20:08 (one year ago) link
These have reformed for a few east coast dates in April with further dates likely in the fall. Good to see them come out of hiding again, the 2012 show I saw was epic.
https://www.codeine.nyc/
― lord of the rongs (anagram), Tuesday, 28 February 2023 09:01 (one year ago) link
They played that Numero group event in Los Angeles already I think. Playing DC with Barbara Manning opening
― curmudgeon, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 18:34 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRqkmHHFqUs
― MaresNest, Tuesday, 28 February 2023 18:35 (one year ago) link